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human_being
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Now there’s a link to a great catholic…I just added it to my favorite’s bar…thank you…
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mangy_dog
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Take a fresh piece of paper, put it up on the butcher block easel…Hi all~
I know that you cannot be both Catholic and pro-choice due to what we believe and practice as Catholics, but is it possible to be a liberal and still be a good Catholic? A lot of my extended family is left-wing, yet claim to be Catholic. My immediate family is fully conservative, however, and I have never doubted that. Is it that I don’t fully understand the term “liberal” and think that you must automatically be conservative if you’re Catholic?
Please help me understand and excuse my political ignorance…
~Therese
Now, take each political issue, one by one and analyze it in light of your catholic faith and teaching.
Make three columns: Liberal - Conservative - Catholic (or unclassifiable)
In the end you must consider which one will be your salvation and that of your loved ones.
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Sailor_Kenshin
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Though I always wanted to become Catholic, and always thought of myself as traditional-- if that means believing in vacant-chair, anti-Semitic blather that belongs to Stormfront, then I guess not.
Neither am I an anything-goes type who supports abortion, homosexual ‘marriage,’ various liturgical blasphemies like consecrating Twinkies, and worshiping the created instead of the Creator.
Many Protestants live more ‘Catholic’ lives than many who call themselves Catholic.
So, as usual, I don’t fit in anywhere. Yet I still believe liberalism is at odds with Church teachings. Redistribution of wealth? No. The ‘right’ to abortion? No. Class envy? No. Rendering unto Caesar what is God’s? No. Growing government so that the message of the USA’s Founding Fathers is buried under a self-serving bureaucracy? No. Anthropomorphic global warming? Please.
The truth is the truth even if no one believes it; a lie is a lie even if everyone believes it. This is neither the Church nor the country I knew as a youth. God save us.
Blessed Thanksgiving to all.
Neither am I an anything-goes type who supports abortion, homosexual ‘marriage,’ various liturgical blasphemies like consecrating Twinkies, and worshiping the created instead of the Creator.
Many Protestants live more ‘Catholic’ lives than many who call themselves Catholic.
So, as usual, I don’t fit in anywhere. Yet I still believe liberalism is at odds with Church teachings. Redistribution of wealth? No. The ‘right’ to abortion? No. Class envy? No. Rendering unto Caesar what is God’s? No. Growing government so that the message of the USA’s Founding Fathers is buried under a self-serving bureaucracy? No. Anthropomorphic global warming? Please.
The truth is the truth even if no one believes it; a lie is a lie even if everyone believes it. This is neither the Church nor the country I knew as a youth. God save us.
Blessed Thanksgiving to all.
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Garland
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Hi all, well at the risk of offending some I will butt in again. The first sunday of Advent this year, I have been Catholic for 40 years. When I entered the Church, there were few liberal catholics at least in positions of power. Over these 40 yrs. some bishops and priest bought the big lie, if it feels good do it. The labor movement was really started by a catholic named Robert Wagner, I may have mispelled his name, but he introduced legislation to make unions legal. The labor movement was a far different animal than that of today. I know that of which I speak because I worked as a union member in the UMW and as a Teamster for over 35 yrs. In all that time I was a regis. Dem. and supported the candidates put forth by the party. It was under Mr. Carter that the party started to become more liberal in its thinking and the unions suffered because of it. The labor force was about 24% union then and began to decline. Companies began to ship jobs to mexico and other places where labor was cheaper and regulations on waste material and its disposal were nonexistant. this continued under Mr. Regan and Mr. Bush.Hints of homosexual lifestyle and more and more abortion became the banner of the Dems. The party changed from a labor , workingman, Joe average centered, party, to a hollywood centered far left party, with no holds barred bloodbath for the unborn and blossemed under the guidance of the Clintons. They sold us, body and soul to the chinese and shipped millions of jobs to china and mexico with treatys like NAFTA and GHAT. What had been the workingmans party was for sale to the highest bidder ,and the actors, queers, and butchers, became leaders of the. party. The unions are now less than 11% of the work force in part because the leadership of them became corrupt along with the dem. party. I have made reference to the book" Liberalism is a Sin," many times in my post. While the book was written in the 1800`s, it is relavent to today. If you actually read it , it will change your life if you apply it to your life. Fr. Rice was a good and holy Priest, but I doubt he would support what puts itself up as the labor party today. I served as Steward in both unions and worked to add to the union for many yrs. I cannot support the slaughter of the children, the distruction of the family unit, and support of a perversion as normal, and be a Christian in the name of helping unions when I know that liberalisms poison will not only destroy families, unborn children, and every moral thing, but it will also destroy the unions as well . If it were not so, the labor unions would not have lost over half their members under Dem. leadership. Liberalism is a cancer that seeks destruction of everything, eventually even its self. I have signed up for some classes to help me learn how to use this comp. to make paragraphs, spell check etc. so bear with me. Blessings. Garland party.
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human_being
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I agree with you on alot of your post and thank you for it…but we have no support in the GOP for labor…It’s not an easy thing. I voted for MCcain for the issues of marriage and abortion only…against the feelings towards my bank account…I didn’t even want to vote.
There are no politicians who support a catholic union member…Damned if I do and damned if I don’t. I think alot of the same thoughts towards history and the politicians involved. Democrat or republican…The GOP will outright be proud to tell you of they’re union busting…and the dems will sell our souls while your looking right at them.
The majority of this country will not go to college nor own their own business…Our only hope in living a half decent financial life is sticking togethter in unions yet we are destroyed by any party that gets in wether they steal our votes or not. Free and unair trade is the norm…And I am with you in your beliefs of the freak show on the left…but the right is even more untrustworthy to me with my finances. Hoffa wasn’t a liberal…but the catholic Kennnedy’s his arch enemies were.
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human_being
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Your always gonna offend someone on this site,well maybe not always,but alot of times…get used to it…I liked your post alot. The only candidate I really liked voting for was Pat Buchanon…I read his book “Death Of The West” and felt he was right on target. I tend to support some of the “liberal” ideals. Since the country has turned it’s back on unions I tend to agree with the national healthcare thing because the company’s brought it on themselves by vehemenly fighting labor and by not providing it…And by doing everything in their power to divide the people. So I figure that if they can’t allow peole to stick together to get what is needed than they must want the socialism they bring. They surely can’t expect the vast majority of the country to go on as peasants. And that’s what they bring with their divisive legislations of deregulations,fretrade agreements, and right-to-work laws…The vast majority cannot stand alone and survive…It’s either strong unions under a freemarket system or outright socialism or communism. …once again I really do like your post.
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itinerant1
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If you like Pat Buchanon then you are alright. Just spell his name correctly next time : “Patrick J. Buchanan”.
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human_being
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Why Buchanan? Mostly because he has been the only politician who actually has an outright stubborn stance(no matter what either party says) on fair trade as opposed to free-trade…He realises that it is not healthy for us to compete at the cost of going down to third world standards here…And also he(in his book, Death of the west) was right on the mark with the illegals needing most watching were the Radical muslims, not the hispanics.If you like Pat Buchanon then you are alright. Just spell his name correctly next time : “Patrick J. Buchanan”.
He was already aware and vocal about the type of people involved in the 9/11 tradgedy being here before it happened…Plus he’s a catholic. This country is more important to him than the the foreign interests of the not all /american corporate business lobby.
It was a bought election from the get go with" W". WABC New York hardly gave him any air time when the election neared…It was all Bush, Bush, Bush…Like they paid off Murdoch…which they probably did, IMO.
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human_being
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Robert F. Wagner created the National Labor relations act…And he introduced the social security bill…Doesn’t that make him a liberal?
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human_being
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And all conservatives haven’t always been anti-union. Buchanan was going to have current Teamster President James Hoffa Jr. in his cabinet.
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jackinbox
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I love Buchanan. We need more like him and less like Beck and Hannity. Buchanan doesn’t just rubber stamp the party line and states his views without attacking the other side. Plus, it doesn’t hurt that he has spoken very highly of the Latin Mass.
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jdau
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this message is for the person using Cardinal Bernadin as a source for Catholic Doctrine.Specific reference to his “Seamless Garment” (preposterous) theory(Understand “theory”):
This is a summary by Dr. William A. Borst at the Mindszenty Report that accurately captured the crux of the Bernardin dilemma. See: mindszenty.org/report/2004/mr_0804.pdf/ It reads, in part: “(This) position draws its problematic underpinnings from the seamless garment of late Joseph Cardinal Bernardin. With illusions to John’s Gospel, (19:23), the Cardinal advanced the notion that Catholic politicians should not be judged solely, or even primarily, by their respective positions on abortion. He stressed that there were other life issues that warranted a proper Catholic response. Abortion was merely one strand in a rich and finely woven “seamless garment” of Catholic social teachings in defense of life. Cynics would say that the seamless garment had been contrived to shroud Catholic politicians under a protective mantle of ecclesiastical approval. Charity dictates that the divisiveness of the seamless garment was just one of a host of unintended consequences that spoiled a pious attempt to recognize the sanctity of all human life. Whether unintentionally or intentionally, the Cardinal’s garment has served as a shroud under which several Catholic politicians have been able to hide for over twenty years. The seamless garment has trivialized the Church’s opposition to abortion, euthanasia, and stem cell research by equating it with civil rights, the death penalty, and the minimum wage. Kenneth L. Woodward illustrated this point in the May 28th, 2004 issue of the New York Times when he wrote about pro-choice Catholic politicians who argued that, with the exception of abortion, the Democratic Party was closer to Catholic social teachings than was the Republican Party.” Undoubtedly, much of the argumentation going on at the USCCB is regrettably being influenced by shoddy logic of the ilk spawned by Bernardin. While there may be more “nuance” in the neo-modernist position, perhaps a better term would be stealth; the underpinnings are still the same.
It is anecdotally reported that towards the end of his reign Pope Pius XII would mumble to himself “I smell sulfur,” alluding to the heresy he saw creeping in the Church. One wonders whether today he’d need a gas mask to cloak the stench.
sent with love for Christ.
This is a summary by Dr. William A. Borst at the Mindszenty Report that accurately captured the crux of the Bernardin dilemma. See: mindszenty.org/report/2004/mr_0804.pdf/ It reads, in part: “(This) position draws its problematic underpinnings from the seamless garment of late Joseph Cardinal Bernardin. With illusions to John’s Gospel, (19:23), the Cardinal advanced the notion that Catholic politicians should not be judged solely, or even primarily, by their respective positions on abortion. He stressed that there were other life issues that warranted a proper Catholic response. Abortion was merely one strand in a rich and finely woven “seamless garment” of Catholic social teachings in defense of life. Cynics would say that the seamless garment had been contrived to shroud Catholic politicians under a protective mantle of ecclesiastical approval. Charity dictates that the divisiveness of the seamless garment was just one of a host of unintended consequences that spoiled a pious attempt to recognize the sanctity of all human life. Whether unintentionally or intentionally, the Cardinal’s garment has served as a shroud under which several Catholic politicians have been able to hide for over twenty years. The seamless garment has trivialized the Church’s opposition to abortion, euthanasia, and stem cell research by equating it with civil rights, the death penalty, and the minimum wage. Kenneth L. Woodward illustrated this point in the May 28th, 2004 issue of the New York Times when he wrote about pro-choice Catholic politicians who argued that, with the exception of abortion, the Democratic Party was closer to Catholic social teachings than was the Republican Party.” Undoubtedly, much of the argumentation going on at the USCCB is regrettably being influenced by shoddy logic of the ilk spawned by Bernardin. While there may be more “nuance” in the neo-modernist position, perhaps a better term would be stealth; the underpinnings are still the same.
It is anecdotally reported that towards the end of his reign Pope Pius XII would mumble to himself “I smell sulfur,” alluding to the heresy he saw creeping in the Church. One wonders whether today he’d need a gas mask to cloak the stench.
sent with love for Christ.
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John_Pascendi
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First of all get your popes right.it was supposed to have been Pope Paul V1 who said that,and I doubt if he mumbled…since it was he who lied to Cardinal Mindszenty ordering him to Rome for a conference then also assuring Mindszenty that he would be allowed to return back to Hungary…he never was…Bernardin was just one of a host of hardly catholic prelates who cloudied the waters…on purpose,cant stand it when a person who knows how to cross the street somehow did not know of the consequences of his actions…duh! WHen the most evil family.maybe outside of the Rockefellers…the Kennedys constantly thumbed their wealthy noses in the face of Rome and got away with it…so with the corny seamless bit…thats why there is a hell boys and girls…how many innocent developing boys and girls were murdered in their mommies womb because of such teachings is in the millions and they will haunt the miserable souls of such clerics as they suffer the pangs of such abortion operatons…yes when your skull is crushed so as to help you pass thru the birth canal,pain is there!
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jdau
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Please excuse me for not getting my Popes “right”. Father, I will try to sin no more. This is quoted by the “Roman Catholic Blog”. Is it really that important who commented? This it:
“I wish this post were about the Olde English drink called “Smoking Bishop” immortalized in the last lines of Charles Dickens’ immensely Christian work - “A Christmas Carol,” but it’s not.
This post is about the type of smoke, sulfurous smoke, that comes from the pit of Hell and burning brimstone.
The type of smoke Pope Pius XII reportedly mentioned when his Jesuit advisers, in the late 1940s, were trying to convince him that Opus Dei was heretical and that it’s now sainted founder Josemarie Escriva should be silenced. Pius XII reportedly shouted to the Jesuits “I smell sulfur” as he rejected their specious arguments and ordered them out of his office”.
“I wish this post were about the Olde English drink called “Smoking Bishop” immortalized in the last lines of Charles Dickens’ immensely Christian work - “A Christmas Carol,” but it’s not.
This post is about the type of smoke, sulfurous smoke, that comes from the pit of Hell and burning brimstone.
The type of smoke Pope Pius XII reportedly mentioned when his Jesuit advisers, in the late 1940s, were trying to convince him that Opus Dei was heretical and that it’s now sainted founder Josemarie Escriva should be silenced. Pius XII reportedly shouted to the Jesuits “I smell sulfur” as he rejected their specious arguments and ordered them out of his office”.
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cmhllama
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A conservative, anti-abortion friend of mine questioned how I can be Catholic and vote pro-choice. She’s unmarried, sexually active and uses contraception. I said, “Well I’ve never had an abortion, and I have never used contraception, because I’ve never had sex.”
Apparently some conservatives like to pick and choose which teachings they follow too.
I also never understood how some conservatives are anti-abortion and anti-welfare and anti socialized health care. They will do all they can to get the baby born but once that baby is born, mama is on her own…
Apparently some conservatives like to pick and choose which teachings they follow too.
I also never understood how some conservatives are anti-abortion and anti-welfare and anti socialized health care. They will do all they can to get the baby born but once that baby is born, mama is on her own…
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cmhllama
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To go off topic for a sec, that stuff is goooood by the way. Goes down easy. My book club read A Christmas Carol last year in December and one man brewed some for our Christmas party. This is how nerdy bookworms party.
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crazzeto
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There are hypacryts every where, it’s always quite disheartening to see it. I know a few conservitives who fall neatly in the category you describe here, it’s sad.
This is why I say hardly anyone today is interested in being Christian anymore. It’s true, being Christian means joyfully accepting the whole Gospel of Jesus Christ. Not just the pretty parts that we all love (like the very popular footsteps prints), but also the true orthodox social doctrine of Jesus Christ.
To truely be his, you must faithfully submit your self to his teaching as his bride. When one does this with joy, they find truely that the burden is light.
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cmhllama
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oh em gee. So sick of the Footsteps story. It was cool when I first heard it in high school, but now I’ve heard it so much, it’s like a Christian cliche now. It’s lost its power. It’s such trite, “pop” Christianity. Once you start getting into the meat of Catholic theology, that’s way more complex, fascinating, powerful and moving.
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davidmlamb
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Part I
I am a devout Catholic and very attuned to the social justice teachings of the Church. And for that I am often shunned by conservative Catholics being labeled a liberal and a socialist. I believe that health care is a natural right because it is tied to right to life. So I strongly feel that Medicare should extend to everyone in order to cover basic life sustaining health care needs from cradle to grave. *Respect for health
2288 Life and physical health are precious gifts entrusted to us by God. We must take reasonable care of them, taking into account the needs of others and the common good.
Concern for the health of its citizens requires that society help in the attainment of living-conditions that allow them to grow and reach maturity: food and clothing, housing, health care, basic education, employment, and social assistance.
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I believe that there needs to be reasonable regulations to the market in order to protect the public and assure that the wealth produced by Capitalism serves the entire human community primarily in the form of just wages and benefits so that wage earners can properly support their families.
*2426 The development of economic activity and growth in production are meant to provide for the needs of human beings. Economic life is not meant solely to multiply goods produced and increase profit or power; it is ordered first of all to the service of persons, of the whole man, and of the entire human community. Economic activity, conducted according to its own proper methods, is to be exercised within the limits of the moral order, in keeping with social justice so as to correspond to God’s plan for man.209
2428 In work, the person exercises and fulfills in part the potential inscribed in his nature. The primordial value of labor stems from man himself, its author and its beneficiary. Work is for man, not man for work.214 *Everyone should be able to draw from work the means of providing for his life and that of his family, and of serving the human community. *
Medicare and Social Security can be reformed by reducing the benefits paid to the advantages who have the resources to sustain themselves. A reduced Social Security benefit to the wealthy and high deductibles as well as higher premiums for their Medicare will help to reduce the overall cost of these public benefits in a way that is just in keeping with the common good.
]Peace,
Dave
I am a devout Catholic and very attuned to the social justice teachings of the Church. And for that I am often shunned by conservative Catholics being labeled a liberal and a socialist. I believe that health care is a natural right because it is tied to right to life. So I strongly feel that Medicare should extend to everyone in order to cover basic life sustaining health care needs from cradle to grave. *Respect for health
2288 Life and physical health are precious gifts entrusted to us by God. We must take reasonable care of them, taking into account the needs of others and the common good.
Concern for the health of its citizens requires that society help in the attainment of living-conditions that allow them to grow and reach maturity: food and clothing, housing, health care, basic education, employment, and social assistance.
IFONT=“Times New Roman”]
I believe that there needs to be reasonable regulations to the market in order to protect the public and assure that the wealth produced by Capitalism serves the entire human community primarily in the form of just wages and benefits so that wage earners can properly support their families.
*2426 The development of economic activity and growth in production are meant to provide for the needs of human beings. Economic life is not meant solely to multiply goods produced and increase profit or power; it is ordered first of all to the service of persons, of the whole man, and of the entire human community. Economic activity, conducted according to its own proper methods, is to be exercised within the limits of the moral order, in keeping with social justice so as to correspond to God’s plan for man.209
2428 In work, the person exercises and fulfills in part the potential inscribed in his nature. The primordial value of labor stems from man himself, its author and its beneficiary. Work is for man, not man for work.214 *Everyone should be able to draw from work the means of providing for his life and that of his family, and of serving the human community. *
Medicare and Social Security can be reformed by reducing the benefits paid to the advantages who have the resources to sustain themselves. A reduced Social Security benefit to the wealthy and high deductibles as well as higher premiums for their Medicare will help to reduce the overall cost of these public benefits in a way that is just in keeping with the common good.
]Peace,
Dave
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davidmlamb
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Part II
I believe that right to work or employer at will laws are unjust because they undermine the financial stability of the family. Federal laws should support a just balance system between labor and management that makes it difficult to fire a worker at will without just cause and mandate a federal uniform code of disciplinary steps before termination. I support the employee free will act mandating collective bargaining to ensure a just and fair wage.
2433 Access to employment and to professions must be open to all without unjust discrimination: men and women, healthy and disabled, natives and immigrants.219 For its part society should, according to circumstances, help citizens find work and employment.220
2434 A just wage is the legitimate fruit of work. To refuse or withhold it can be a grave injustice.221 In determining fair pay both the needs and the contributions of each person must be taken into account. "Remuneration for work should guarantee man the opportunity to provide a dignified livelihood for himself and his family on the material, social, cultural and spiritual level, taking into account the role and the productivity of each, the state of the business, and the common good."222 Agreement between the parties is not sufficient to justify morally the amount to be received in wages.
I believe in a strong public education system with corporal punishment for those who disrupt the system. I think our religious traditions should be restored to the public classroom which includes celebrating Christmas, Easter and recognizing the religious holidays reflected by the foreign diversity in our schools so that cultures and faith can be mutually shared and respected. Each public school should have a chaplain to start and end the day in prayer and to act as a spiritual guidance councilor to both students and faculty the very same way a chaplain facilitates this in hospitals and the military.
Teachers should be paid a fair and just wage so that they do not have to take a second job to pay their bills and tax payers should be willing to support such an education system and should expect in return an effective education system. Other countries do it very well so we should learn from them. I think a voucher system will ultimate destroy public education forcing parents to take out educational loans for grades 1-12. A voucher is basically a coupon, it does not necessarily cover 100% of the tuition and more than likely the value of a voucher will not keep up with the rising cost of education. As I pointed out before other countries have superior public education systems and unless we learn from them how they accomplish this the next generation of doctors, engineers, computer programmers and other professionals in the United States will be imported while Americans will have the semi skilled and non skilled lower paying jobs.
Finally, I believe that there needs to be a just taxation system that collects enough revenue to pay down the deficit while supporting the common good moving towards human progress. No one likes to pay taxes but they are necessary to have a well ordered society which assures solidarity among men, peace, liberty, and justice for all. Cutting taxes that support the necessary safety nets that protect the weak and vulnerable is unjust and unacceptable in a just society. It is in fact sin. We are to love our neighbor as we love ourselves regardless of the cost.
When the rich man told Jesus that he had done everything to keep the commandments Jesus told him that he lacked one thing which was keeping him out of the Kingdom of God. He was to surrender all his wealth for the good of others and then he would have heaven opened up to him. So folks, in our political lives when we think about having to pay taxes to support those of us who are less fortunate, who are weak and vulnerable and we are unwilling to give up one penny in taxes to support the common good which includes public institutions, schools, fire departments, and police protection, remember Jesus said we should be willing to give it all up. We are to render to Caesar what belongs to Caesar and to God what belongs to God. And when we do this, God will bless and prosper our nation.
Peace.
David
I believe that right to work or employer at will laws are unjust because they undermine the financial stability of the family. Federal laws should support a just balance system between labor and management that makes it difficult to fire a worker at will without just cause and mandate a federal uniform code of disciplinary steps before termination. I support the employee free will act mandating collective bargaining to ensure a just and fair wage.
2433 Access to employment and to professions must be open to all without unjust discrimination: men and women, healthy and disabled, natives and immigrants.219 For its part society should, according to circumstances, help citizens find work and employment.220
2434 A just wage is the legitimate fruit of work. To refuse or withhold it can be a grave injustice.221 In determining fair pay both the needs and the contributions of each person must be taken into account. "Remuneration for work should guarantee man the opportunity to provide a dignified livelihood for himself and his family on the material, social, cultural and spiritual level, taking into account the role and the productivity of each, the state of the business, and the common good."222 Agreement between the parties is not sufficient to justify morally the amount to be received in wages.
I believe in a strong public education system with corporal punishment for those who disrupt the system. I think our religious traditions should be restored to the public classroom which includes celebrating Christmas, Easter and recognizing the religious holidays reflected by the foreign diversity in our schools so that cultures and faith can be mutually shared and respected. Each public school should have a chaplain to start and end the day in prayer and to act as a spiritual guidance councilor to both students and faculty the very same way a chaplain facilitates this in hospitals and the military.
Teachers should be paid a fair and just wage so that they do not have to take a second job to pay their bills and tax payers should be willing to support such an education system and should expect in return an effective education system. Other countries do it very well so we should learn from them. I think a voucher system will ultimate destroy public education forcing parents to take out educational loans for grades 1-12. A voucher is basically a coupon, it does not necessarily cover 100% of the tuition and more than likely the value of a voucher will not keep up with the rising cost of education. As I pointed out before other countries have superior public education systems and unless we learn from them how they accomplish this the next generation of doctors, engineers, computer programmers and other professionals in the United States will be imported while Americans will have the semi skilled and non skilled lower paying jobs.
Finally, I believe that there needs to be a just taxation system that collects enough revenue to pay down the deficit while supporting the common good moving towards human progress. No one likes to pay taxes but they are necessary to have a well ordered society which assures solidarity among men, peace, liberty, and justice for all. Cutting taxes that support the necessary safety nets that protect the weak and vulnerable is unjust and unacceptable in a just society. It is in fact sin. We are to love our neighbor as we love ourselves regardless of the cost.
When the rich man told Jesus that he had done everything to keep the commandments Jesus told him that he lacked one thing which was keeping him out of the Kingdom of God. He was to surrender all his wealth for the good of others and then he would have heaven opened up to him. So folks, in our political lives when we think about having to pay taxes to support those of us who are less fortunate, who are weak and vulnerable and we are unwilling to give up one penny in taxes to support the common good which includes public institutions, schools, fire departments, and police protection, remember Jesus said we should be willing to give it all up. We are to render to Caesar what belongs to Caesar and to God what belongs to God. And when we do this, God will bless and prosper our nation.
Peace.
David
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