If only he/she would stop voting for these pro abortion candidates who are forcing our women against their will to abort their children and instead vote for pro life Republicans who are saving these children from being aborted then justice would be restored. Thank you for that insightful post.
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Oops,sorry to burst your bubble clever boy, since we are talking Catholic and liberal… you know, abortion and all other mentioned subjects , I thought I would just toss a little conservative history your way, after all, you did mentioned the former Rep President. Not too many of us are perfect,and concerning our political leaders you can,most certainly, expect to find the bad and the ugly. Want to learn more of the ugly stuff? it’s history.
Where did you get this utter claptrap? Republicans champion all those issues as well, we just don’t champion making the govt in charge of it. Republicans are much more generous and charitable than Democrats.
In fact, both political parties have been radicalized due to a number of factors. We have lost sight of the fact that we are all American at the end of the day, and that we must work together. Instead it has been replaced with the idea that the other guy is the enemy, and that there’s only room for one of us in this nation.
False, excommunication is a disciplinary measure used to encourage the believer to repent of some grave heresy or public sin. It does not make you “not catholic”, you are not disallowed from attending Mass (as per usual, you are encouraged in fact). Rather, you are cut off from the Sacraments, so you can attend Mass, but you can not receive the Eucharist and you can not even receive reconciliation until the excommunication is lifted.
No, but one can not knowingly disregard the non-negotiables, this would be abortion, the right deffinition of Marriage in particular, and perhaps some other issues.
Careful about calling others uneducated. You are showing your own ignorance in this thread. First, the Church has taught since the beginning and continues forcefully today to teach that to be Catholic is to be pro-life. Pro-“choice” is contrary to the teaching of the Church. Second, Pope John Paul II issued a teaching that point blank tells us that communism is contrary to the Catholic Faith, and Catholics may not join or be part of communism or the Communist Party.Answer this, is there anywhere that the Vatican has EVER said that Pro-Life people can’t be Catholic? Is there? NO. So if the Vatican hasn’t made a decision on this then it is not for you to decide or deem who can be Catholic and who can’t. When you become Pope you can’t put that decision the Catholic people.
Next, do you even know what Communism is? Have you ever looked up the definition? NO. Because if you did you would know that Communism is an economic system where everyone shares the products of their labor equally. That’s it! If you knew anything about world history you would know that the countries of China and Russia were repressive governments who ALSO used the economic model of Communism. If they had chosen capitalism they would have still been as controlling and repressive. Communism has nothing to do with substituting God with the government. Read history!
You are obviously uneducated, and don’t bother to educate yourself on world history or you would not being saying such nonsense.
We have a valid political dispute in this country between conservatives and liberals on what the best way to care for for the poor and needy is. The Church neither endorses nor opposes Ivins approach to solving these problems. The problem with being Catholic liberal is of the liberal political philosophy includes abortion, homosexual rights, euthanasia, contraception, cloning etc , as part and parcel of helping the poor and needy. . The truth is it makes it impossible for a liberal Catholic, with few exceptions, to vote in any election of national consequences without forsaking their faith in favor of their politics.
Yes,and that is sad.Murder of the innocent is the only mortal at the top of the campaigning Rep’s list.
Support of abortion disqualifies a candidate from receiving the vote of the Catholic. . It is wrong to consider abortion to be a single issue as ones support for abortion cannot help but permeate their views. on everything else. Do you really want to have in a position of leadership, a person who believes a woman has to right to pay someone to kill her child
Of course they do not, but they all contribute to the reasons women and men choose to abort.As a pro-life Catholic I do not vote for candidates who are pro-choice and would kill their own in the womb.When our President campaigned for office I wrote and sent four letters to his Illinois and Washington offices asking if he and his wife would abort their child, he did not respond to my letters.I did not vote for him. I will do the same when he begins his next campaign.
No Catholics can not be single issue voters, how ever there are a subset of isses I pointed out (cheifly abortion) which no Catholic may support via the vote for a candidate. We simply can not vote for so called “pro-choicers”. There is no choice when something so fundamentally violates the dignaty of God’s creation.
I stand corrected… and I adopt your answer as my response to the original post. Yes, you can be a Catholic and a liberal.
Perhaps, but the question is, “Can you be a Catholic and a Liberal?” and the answer is “yes”, of course.
In, fact, you can be liberal, and not belong to the Democratic Party, just as you can be conservative and not be a member of the Republican Party! It’s a little box I check on the voter registration form called, “Independent.” A plague on both their houses!
Interesting post averagejoe. And are you implying that America is not the capital of the world and not necessarily the center of attention for everyone else in the world? Say it ain’t so, Joe!
