Can you be bought? What's your price?

[MikeinSD]

I don’t know what my price would be. OTOH, I found what some Southern Baptists and Catholics price was. $20,000. Got sued by 3 families who claimed since I’m a homosexual that I should not inherit inherit money from my mother. They contested her will. Their lawyers argued since my mom died a Catholic, only Christians should get her estate. And homosexals were a menance to decent society.

I won. I counter sued. Walked away with court costs plus a nice settlement (sealed by the court).

My partner’s born again’s brother sued. His brother’s lawyer argued that my partner, a homosexual, had no right to his own property when a Christian can use the homosexual’s money and property to both enrich the Christian family and spread the Christian faith. The lawsuit was thrown out of court here in California.

Money changes everything
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[wacky_wonderful]

I don’t know what my price would be. OTOH, I found what some Southern Baptists and Catholics price was. $20,000. Got sued by 3 families who claimed since I’m a homosexual that I should not inherit inherit money from my mother. They contested her will. Their lawyers argued since my mom died a Catholic, only Christians should get her estate. And homosexals were a menance to decent society.

I won. I counter sued. Walked away with court costs plus a nice settlement (sealed by the court).

My partner’s born again’s brother sued. His brother’s lawyer argued that my partner, a homosexual, had no right to his own property when a Christian can use the homosexual’s money and property to both enrich the Christian family and spread the Christian faith. The lawsuit was thrown out of court here in California.

Money changes everything
.

I had to read your message twice, it is so unbelievable. Those air heads who sued you were your relatives, right? Live long and prosper, Mike. God will deal with the idiots.

 

[lifeisbeautiful]

A lie is a lie…

 

[porkscratchings]

Do you believe the statement that everyone has their price, that they can be bought?

Would you lie to keep your job, or would you stand firm and refuse? What would it take for you to abandon your beliefs?

Have you been tested? If so, can you share what happened?

I recently walked away from a very good job after just 7 days because I was expected to lie on a daily basis.

How prevalent is lying/dishonesty in the workplace today? Do you somehow justify it or have you found an ethical employer?

i’m an atheist.

Some christian places wouldn’t hire me for this alone,even if it’s just a paper factory.

 

[wacky_wonderful]

i’m an atheist.

Some christian places wouldn’t hire me for this alone,even if it’s just a paper factory.

You are in the UK, and maybe the laws are different there. Here they cannot discriminate against you based on sex, religion, age, etc. But they do ask, on applications, when you graduated high school, so they can figure out how old you are from that. Age discrimination is rampant, proving it…impossible. Same thing with religion. When they ask about availability, I tell them I am available any days or times, except that I need one hour for church on Sundays. That tells them what they want to know. Gone are the days when businesses were closed on Sundays.

 

[MikeinSD]

I had to read your message twice, it is so unbelievable. Those air heads who sued you were your relatives, right? Live long and prosper, Mike. God will deal with the idiots.

Thank you very much wacky & wonderful. My challenge now is let go of the past and adjust my attitude. Meeting some great Christians out here in CA.

 

[cheese_sdc]

I don’t know what my price would be. OTOH, I found what some Southern Baptists and Catholics price was. $20,000. Got sued by 3 families who claimed since I’m a homosexual that I should not inherit inherit money from my mother. They contested her will. Their lawyers argued since my mom died a Catholic, only Christians should get her estate. And homosexals were a menance to decent society.

I won. I counter sued. Walked away with court costs plus a nice settlement (sealed by the court).

My partner’s born again’s brother sued. His brother’s lawyer argued that my partner, a homosexual, had no right to his own property when a Christian can use the homosexual’s money and property to both enrich the Christian family and spread the Christian faith. The lawsuit was thrown out of court here in California.

Money changes everything
.

That’s incredible. I’m glad you won your case.

 

[leonie]

Inheritances really bring out the greed in people. Even really well-balanced people can get crazy.

I say Let’s all give all our money away before we die!!!

Who’s with me?!?

 

[Jubilatae]

Well, I had to do some soul searching on this one, and I guess that like the rest of you, I believe we have been bought and paid for on the Cross of Calvary.

However, it is really one of the best ?'s EVER.

It draws us to try and be truthful!!!. At first one is tempted to pretend to ourselves, I am not buyable.

Then when we allow ourselves to go over all the scenarios, we really begin to see areas where we need to come before the Lord.

Areas where we have to be truly cleansed

Thank you for this ???, I urge all to take it as a real soul search,

Maranatha,

Jubilatae

 

[wacky_wonderful]

Thank you very much wacky & wonderful. My challenge now is let go of the past and adjust my attitude. Meeting some great Christians out here in CA.

I’m a California native and you are in a great state. God bless you all, cuz the ground just can’t stop rocking and rolling!

Letting go is easier if you consider that a normal person would not behave like those folks did. They have a sickness, they are ill. You cannot expect normal behavior from sick people, right? Right.

 

[wacky_wonderful]

Inheritances really bring out the greed in people. Even really well-balanced people can get crazy.

I say Let’s all give all our money away before we die!!!

Who’s with me?!?

There’s a book called Die Broke, or something like that. I can do that! No problem!

 

[JimG]

Hmm, well, I lied about my age to get my first job. Said I was 16 when I was only 15.

And my uncle lied about his age to join the Navy during WW-II.

 

[Liberian]

Wacky & Wonderful,

Your question reminds me of a joke I heard when I was a teenager–and repeated to my kids when they were teenagers:

This guy is in a bar sitting next to a woman about his age. He asks her, “Would you sleep with me for a million dollars?” She thinks about it for a minute or two, and says “Yes, I think I would.” “Okay,” he says, “would you sleep with me for twenty dollars?” “Of course not,” she responds indignantly, 'what sort a person do you think I am?" “I’ve already established that,” he says, “now we’re just dickering over the price.”

History is full of people who couldn’t be bought. They’re called martyrs. My older sister was fond of saying that “everyone has his price” until I said that to her.

About twelve years ago I was applying for a new job. I had an offer from one company but had interviewed with a second company as well and would much rather have worked at the second company’s location. Between one thing and another, it came down to a situation in which my telephone would ring, I would pick it up and say “Yes, I’ll take the job, who are you please?” The first company called back at 1:00; the second company called back at 3:00–with an offer that was about ten thousand a year more than the first company’s. Since I had already said yes to the first company, I told the second company no. There really wasn’t any question in my mind about breaking my word to the first company. I’ve looked back a couple of times and asked “what if,” but I’ve never had any doubts that I did the right thing.

I don’t know what my price is, but it’s evidently more than ten thousand a year and a good living location.

• Liberian

 

[MikeinSD]

I’m a California native and you are in a great state. God bless you all, cuz the ground just can’t stop rocking and rolling!

Letting go is easier if you consider that a normal person would not behave like those folks did. They have a sickness, they are ill. You cannot expect normal behavior from sick people, right? Right.

Thanks again. California is a beautiful state. And I can’t get over how cool the folks are out here. I think I found the place here in sunny San Diego to spend the rest of my life.

I’m trying to let go of the family damage. Several of my family members are active alcoholics – including the ones that contested my mom’s will. Addicts are crazy. My responsibility is to let go. And I found the love of my life with my partner. Life is good. Thanks

 

[Eireann]

Do you believe the statement that everyone has their price, that they can be bought?

Personally I can’t be bought, 3 years ago someone said to me that “people will do anything for money”.
He further said that “if I give you 1 million £ pounds to kill someone you would”.
My response was “I’d take their 30 pieces of silver and cast it as there feet and tell them to take a long walk off a short plank”.

Would you lie to keep your job, or would you stand firm and refuse? What would it take for you to abandon your beliefs?

I told an old employer that if he forced me to work on Sunday that I’d be quitting on the spot, I never did have to quit, and I wasn’t forced to do Sunday work.

How prevalent is lying/dishonesty in the workplace today? Do you somehow justify it or have you found an ethical employer?

Who knows, I’m sure a lot of it is brushed under the mat, but God knows.

 

[wcknight]

I once had an management or accounting teacher who said if he left millions of $ in cash in the middle of the room, and no one knew how much was there and we knew for certain there was no way of anyone ever finding out if anyone took any of it. IF each of us was left alone with the money for a few minutes, he predicted that every one in the room would have their hand in the till.

He was wrong. There would have been at least one who would not have taken a dime. Maybe it’s my upbringing or maybe it’s because I’ve never been in the position of having to go without. I would hope it is the former. I’ve been in debt before (and I have a huge mortgage now) but I would never steal to help myself get out of debt.

I believe there are many folks out there like me. But I’m also sure there are many more who would take whatever is available given the opportunity. And there is no amount of $ in the world that would make me hurt someone on purpose, even if I thought they deserved it,

 

[JimG]

I believe there are many folks out there like me. But I’m also sure there are many more who would take whatever is available given the opportunity. And there is no amount of $ in the world that would make me hurt someone on purpose, even if I thought they deserved it,

Off topic a little, but perhaps we should all read The Coming Generational Storm, by Kotlikoff and Burns, as it appears that right now we all have our hands in the pockets of our children and grandchildren, and they have absolutely no defense against it.

 

[Anne1964]

I once worked for a small software company and part of my job was to do cold calls to sell our software to a specific industry.

If a client asked about a feature, any feature, that wasn’t included in the software I was instructed to tell them that particular feature would be included in the next version of the software.

This company also charged widely varying prices for the same software depending on who was purchasing it.

I quit and spent the next 6 months unemployed while looking for a better job, but I don’t regret leaving…

 

[wacky_wonderful]

I once had an management or accounting teacher who said if he left millions of $ in cash in the middle of the room, and no one knew how much was there and we knew for certain there was no way of anyone ever finding out if anyone took any of it. IF each of us was left alone with the money for a few minutes, he predicted that every one in the room would have their hand in the till.

He was wrong. There would have been at least one who would not have taken a dime. Maybe it’s my upbringing or maybe it’s because I’ve never been in the position of having to go without. I would hope it is the former. I’ve been in debt before (and I have a huge mortgage now) but I would never steal to help myself get out of debt.

I believe there are many folks out there like me. But I’m also sure there are many more who would take whatever is available given the opportunity. And there is no amount of $ in the world that would make me hurt someone on purpose, even if I thought they deserved it,

Several years ago there was a Biblical ethics game and there were 2 editions, one for kids and one for adults. I wish I could remember the name of it now. What I do remember is that one of the cards drawn posed the following scenario: You are in hiding (think WW2 and the Nazis) and it is imperative that everyone be quiet so as not to be found. Your lives depend on it. One of you has a small infant and the baby is making whimpering noises. Mom can’t get the baby to be quiet. What do you do? Made for a lively discussion, I can tell you.

PS. The answer is to pray like you’ve never prayed before.

 

[catsrus]

originally posted by ack
Can’t you say something like “I’m sorry, but I’m unable to provide that information”, or something else that sounds nice but means nothing?

Because of the position of the company for which I work in the world of global competition, the sales companies, even magazines, only send in the big guns.
These people do not want to take “no” for an answer.
I think I will continue as I have been instructed and see it as discretion.
Anyway, out of approximately 4000 employees, world wide, I only have the titles handy for about 15.
I have access to all, but it’s time consuming on a switchboard to look them all up.