Can you name anybody who was deliberately killed merely for converting from Scientology to another religion?

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Before getting into something, it’s often a good idea to consider the question: “if I wish to put some distance between myself and this thing, is there any past experience suggesting that escape may kill me?”

Even if Neil Armstrong had been convinced that his space suit made him look fat, he wasn’t going to slip out of it while walking on the surface of the moon.
 
I think I understand. If you are sincere and it’s you your speaking of, the only thing I can say to you is to go to a priest, someone that you know and feel comfortable with…If need be go to the authorities. No one should be that afraid…May God bless and protect you…May Mary, our mother cover you within Her Mantle…My prayers are with you…
 
“Your post” is a reference to a particular message that could be identified without referring to the messenger. “Makes no sense” doesn’t provide very much information. Evidently there is some sense that was sought and not found.

Do you understand the following sequence of words: “Can you name anybody who…”?

For example, do you understand the following question? … “Can you name anybody who walked on the surface of the moon?” <— Example of a Question (“EoaQ”)

I’m not looking for a name such as “Neil Armstrong.” I’m wondering whether or not you understand EoaQ. Does it make sense to you? Here it is again:

“Can you name anybody who walked on the surface of the moon?” <— the label “EoaQ” has been assigned to that

Is it a question, or is it merely a random sequence of words that begins with a capital letter and ends with a question mark?
 
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I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make.
 
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I have never heard that claim made. Is it yours or from others? If you have a document or news story I would be interested in reading it!
 
I have never heard that claim made.
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What claim? I’m not saying that Neil Armstrong believed that his space suit made him look fat. One claim was about what Neil Armstrong wouldn’t have done, even if he had had that belief.

(Did I use the construction “had had” correctly? Am I making this too complicated?)
 
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I was replying to your original question on the murder of a Scientologist. I’m sorry I didn’t make that clear.

So, is someone claiming that a Scientologist was murdered? I have not heard of anyone making that claim and wondered where it comes from? Is it hypothetical? Is it from a news story? Did it just pop into your head? I would be interested in hearing more about it.
 
Yes, you are making this too complicated. State your question clearly, please.
 
“Yes, you are making this too complicated.”
Thank you for providing what I have no reason to suspect is anything other than your honest opinion.

Here’s an example of a distinction between the existence of a person and the ability to name a person. In 1971, an FBI office was broken into by an organization that called itself “The Citizens’ Commission to Investigate the FBI.” All of the documents were removed. Copies of some of the documents were mailed to at least one senator and at least one newspaper.

(Mailing copies was a mistake that could have had serious consequences for the participants. For technical reasons, it was possible to identify a particular machine that was used to make some of the copies. If they had saved copies and mailed the originals, then they would have been safer. They had always used gloves when handling the papers.)

One day – many years after 1971 – some people learned that their parents were among those involved. The names didn’t become readily available information – although there were many suspects – until after they could no longer be prosecuted because of the statute of limitations.
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State your question clearly, please.
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“Can you name anybody who was deliberately killed merely for converting from Scientology to another religion?” ← that’s the question

I can try to make it more clear, but first somebody needs to identify where clarity is lacking.

A journalist was killed in a building in Istanbul where he was seeking to handle paperwork to marry his fiancee. Allegedly, he wasn’t deliberately killed. Initially, the story from the government of Saudi Arabia was that he had walked out of the building and his waiting fiancee simply failed to notice. Somehow he had gone missing, and the government of Saudi Arabia hoped that he was safe. Later, the story was that there was an unanticipated violent conflict inside the building, although the body was dismembered by somebody who had flown in on one jet with a bone saw before the meeting in the consulate building occurred. People flew into Turkey on two different jets in preparation for the meeting, and flew out after the meeting.

With such kinds of stories, you might begin to wonder what is meant by the phrase “deliberately killed”, but there are cases where people die during surgery, and in such cases it is not ordinarily a deliberate killing, provided that the patient isn’t a journalist being operated on by a surgeon who works for the government of Saudi Arabia.
 
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My prayers are still with you …I believe nothing except you are jumping from this to that which to me ===one big gottcha…Happy New Year
 
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My prayers are still with you …I believe nothing except you are jumping from this to that which to me ===one big gottcha…Happy New Year
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Thank you. It’s not intended to be a gottcha. However, an idea occurs to me. Have you heard of the “Book of Abraham”? Joseph Smith – founder of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints – claimed to have translated a document written in ancient Egyptian writing. However, that was before the Rosetta Stone was used to figure out how ancient Egyptian writing worked.

If you could go back in time, it might be interesting to stand at a blackboard with the ancient Egyptian writing visible and point to the very first symbol and ask Joseph Smith “what does this symbol mean”? Before long, he would run into difficulty and need to leave. He forgot that he was boiling some potatoes and needed to go check on them, never to return.

Normally, I would start with the first sentence, or first major fragment of the first sentence. However, in the case of two different writing systems used to write two different languages, I would start with the first word or symbol. It could be the equivalent of a single consonant sound, or it could be a so-called “morphograph”, familiar from the example of kanji in Japanese – word symbols adopted via cultural appropriation from Chinese.

Check it out if you don’t believe me: morphograph, kanji. Use your favorite search engine. Now, don’t tell me that the whole thread was designed as a gottcha to arrive at morphograph and kanji. Before you begin learning Japanese, be aware that if you hope to learn to read and write, then you need to master a couple of thousand word symbols. It’s another example of looking before you begin. However, I cannot name anybody who died as a result of learning the Japanese language.
 
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Your story about Joseph Smith reminds me of a famous Greek poem:

“Hello, come in!” said Aristotle.
“I’ll just go out and get a bottle
Of beer to go with these potatoes
Of Plato’s.”
 
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I’ve heard this claim as an urban legend, but backed-up-with-data?
No
 
Cruciferi said:
I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make.
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Please study the following quotation, and then choose the most accurate description of it …

“Can you name anybody who walked on the surface of the moon?”

Descriptions:
(1) That’s not a question.
(2) That’s a question, but it makes no sense.
(3) That’s a question, and it might make some kind of sense, but I don’t understand it.
(4) That’s a question, and it might make some kind of sense, and I do understand it, but I don’t like it.

Please choose a number. You can reply with a single keystroke if you use a Hindu-Arabic numeral.
 
Those are questions that have nothing to do with the title of your thread. Its not clever; it’s silly.
 
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Can you name anybody who was deliberately killed merely for converting from Scientology to another religion?
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No. When i left i slipped and broke my neck. Of course i had the usual near death experience of heaven and hell and an angel telling me to change my ways yada yada. But i came back to life, so it doesn’t count.
 
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