Can you prove

[Texan77]

Can you prove without any reasonable doubt that your denomination of christianity is true - through the bible alone?

Likewise can you you prove without any reasonable doubt that the Catholic Church in not the true church of Jesus Christ and her teachings are in error - through the bible alone?

 

[Hisalone]

 

[jakasaki]

Can you prove without any reasonable doubt that your denomination of christianity is true - through the bible alone?

Likewise can you you prove without any reasonable doubt that the Catholic Church in not the true church of Jesus Christ and her teachings are in error - through the bible alone?

Why does it have to be like this??? Why???

Why can’t we just get along??? Why???

I’m not going to “prove” anything. I love my Catholic family and friends and ALL who are Catholic.

I’m not goint to “prove” anything. I love my E.Orthodox family & friends and ALL who are E.Othodox.

Happy Thanksgiving and may God Help & Bless us ALL

 

[Nine_Two]

Why do you attempt to place the onous of proof on others? It is illogical to say “prove yours is the first” and then say “We’ll accept mine is the first until someone can prove otherwise.” Simply put it shows you aren’t actually willing to think about this critically.

The difference between my Church, and you’re Church is ultimately a question of the power of individual bishops vs. the power of the collective bishops, something that already gets argued on this board ad nauseum,

 

[JonNC]

Can you prove without any reasonable doubt that your denomination of christianity is true - through the bible alone?

Likewise can you you prove **without any reasonable doubt **that the Catholic Church in not the true church of Jesus Christ and her teachings are in error - through the bible alone?

If any of us was able to prove “without a reasonable doubt”, Christ’s call for unity would be fulfilled, no other faiths would exist, and all would be believers in Christ.

I don’t know what the “through the bible alone” deal is, but:

I am not going to try to prove to you that the Augsburg Confession is a true reflection of scripture. I have no interest in proving, or trying to prove, that the Catholic Church is in error. But here is how the Catholic Church can prove to me that it is the “one true Church”: successfully bring about unity of communion with Orthodoxy.

Until then, I recognize the Catholic Church to be a truly Christian Church through which the Holy Spirit makes available Grace and salvation, as He does in my Church. In addition, I give thanks to God for all the wonderful things the Catholic Church has done to preserve scripture and the faith through the centuries.

Jon

 

[Texan77]

Why do you attempt to place the onous of proof on others? It is illogical to say “prove yours is the first” and then say “We’ll accept mine is the first until someone can prove otherwise.” Simply put it shows you aren’t actually willing to think about this critically.

This entire site is dedicated to Catholic apologetics and thus proves that the Catholic Church is the true church of Jesus Christ - that being said this thread is dedicated to non catholic religions i.e those who do not recognize the truths within the Catholic Church - and the question might I add it quite simple…

The difference between my Church, and you’re Church is ultimately a question of the power of individual bishops vs. the power of the collective bishops, something that already gets argued on this board ad nauseum,

I suggest then you do not reply anymore with non answers to the threads…

 

[JonNC]

This entire site is dedicated to Catholic apologetics and thus proves that the Catholic Church is the true church of Jesus Christ - that being said this thread is dedicated to non catholic religions i.e **those who do not recognize the truths within the Catholic Church **- and the question might I add it quite simple…

Oh, then you will need to specify which truths that you are talking about, since there are many truths our communions agree on. IOW, I can’t make a blanket statement that I do, or don’t, recognize the truths within the Catholic Church.

I suggest then you do not reply anymore with non answers to the threads…

Seems kind of snarky. Nine_Two is a rather reasonable poster.

Jon

 

[Nine_Two]

This entire site is dedicated to Catholic apologetics and thus proves that the Catholic Church is the true church of Jesus Christ - that being said this thread is dedicated to non catholic religions i.e those who do not recognize the truths within the Catholic Church - and the question might I add it quite simple…

Alright then I’ll take the bait, the proof that my church is correct, and yours is wrong lies in Canon 7 of the Council of Ephesus. It is quite explicit. I’m not going to post a link, it’s quite easy to look up online.

I suggest then you do not reply anymore with non answers to the threads…

I disagree, I simply stated that your premise for the question was incorrect, and will not be a good basis for respectful posting.

 

[kimmielittle]

Can you prove without any reasonable doubt that your denomination of christianity is true - through the bible alone?

Likewise can you you prove without any reasonable doubt that the Catholic Church in not the true church of Jesus Christ and her teachings are in error - through the bible alone?

Can’t be done:

A re-post of mine:
Hiyas

IMHO: Many forget the Catholic Church came BEFORE the NT-OT Bible. It is one of the flaws, I see, in those who try to use the NT-OT Bible to discredit the Church.

This applies to Protestant and Mormon arguments.

Think about it ]

As Always, Just my thoughts

 

[JonNC]

Can’t be done:

A re-post of mine:
Hiyas

IMHO: Many forget the Catholic Church came BEFORE the NT-OT Bible. It is one of the flaws, I see, in those who try to use the NT-OT Bible to discredit the Church.

This applies to Protestant and Mormon arguments.

Think about it ]

As Always, Just my thoughts

Huh?

Jon

 

[kimmielittle]

Why does it have to be like this??? Why???

Why can’t we just get along??? Why???

I’m not going to “prove” anything. I love my Catholic family and friends and ALL who are Catholic.

I’m not goint to “prove” anything. I love my E.Orthodox family & friends and ALL who are E.Othodox.

Happy Thanksgiving and may God Help & Bless us ALL

 

[kimmielittle]

I suggest then you do not reply anymore with non answers to the threads…

 

[kimmielittle]

If any of us was able to prove “without a reasonable doubt”, Christ’s call for unity would be fulfilled, no other faiths would exist, and all would be believers in Christ.

I don’t know what the “through the bible alone” deal is, but:

I am not going to try to prove to you that the Augsburg Confession is a true reflection of scripture. I have no interest in proving, or trying to prove, that the Catholic Church is in error. But here is how the Catholic Church can prove to me that it is the “one true Church”: successfully bring about unity of communion with Orthodoxy.

Until then, I recognize the Catholic Church to be a truly Christian Church through which the Holy Spirit makes available Grace and salvation, as He does in my Church. In addition, I give thanks to God for all the wonderful things the Catholic Church has done to preserve scripture and the faith through the centuries.

Jon

 

[kimmielittle]

Huh?

Jon

Hiyas Jon

I DO believe the Catholic Church is the one. But what I’m trying to say is basically what you stated far better.

If any of us was able to prove “without a reasonable doubt”, Christ’s call for unity would be fulfilled, no other faiths would exist, and all would be believers in Christ.

I don’t know what the “through the bible alone” deal is, but:

 

[James_S_Saint]

Forgiving for the moment that the Bible is not a “proof” document;

Can you prove without any reasonable doubt that your denomination of christianity is true - through the bible alone?

Yes, but not to you.

Likewise can you you prove without any reasonable doubt that the Catholic Church in not the true church of Jesus Christ and her teachings are in error - through the bible alone?

Not yet. Should I be trying to?
I need only to compare it to mine.

 

[peary]

Can you prove without any reasonable doubt that your denomination of christianity is true - through the bible alone?

Likewise can you you prove without any reasonable doubt that the Catholic Church in not the true church of Jesus Christ and her teachings are in error - through the bible alone?

Sure!

PART 1

Church Year Established Founder Where Established

Catholic, 33, Jesus Christ, Jerusalem

Orthodox, 1054, Schismatic Catholic
Bishops, Constantinople

Lutheran, 1517, Martin Luther, Germany

Anabaptist, 1521, Nicholas Storch &
Thomas Munzer, Germany

Anglican, 1534, Henry VIII, England

Mennonites, 1536, Menno Simons, Switzerland

Calvinist, 1555, John Calvin, Switzerland

Presbyterian, 1560, John Knox, Scotland

Congregational, 1582, Robert Brown, Holland

Baptist, 1609, John Smyth, Amsterdam

Dutch Reformed, 1628, Michaelis Jones, New York

Congregationalist, 1648, Pilgrims and Puritans, Massachusetts

Quakers, 1649, George Fox, England

Amish, 1693, Jacob Amman, France

Freemasons, 1717, Masons from four lodges, London

Methodist, 1739, John & Charles
Wesley, England

Unitarian , 1774, Theophilus Lindey, London

Methodist Episcopal, 1784, 60 Preachers, Baltimore, MD

Episcopalian, 1789, Samuel Seabury, American Colonies

 

[peary]

Can you prove without any reasonable doubt that your denomination of christianity is true - through the bible alone?

Likewise can you you prove without any reasonable doubt that the Catholic Church in not the true church of Jesus Christ and her teachings are in error - through the bible alone?

PART 2

United Brethren, 1800, Philip Otterbein &
Martin Boehn, Maryland

Disciples of Christ, 1827, Thomas & Alexander
Campbell, Kentucky

Mormon, 1830, Joseph Smith, New York

Methodist Protestant, 1830, Methodist, United States

Church of Christ, 1836 Warren Stone &
Alexander Campbell, Kentucky

Seventh Day Adventist, 1844, Ellen White, Washington, NH

Christadelphian (Brethren
of Christ), 1844, John Thomas, Richmond, VA

Salvation Army, 1865, William Booth, London

Holiness Church, 1867, Methodist, United States

Jehovah’s Witnesses, 1874 , Charles Taze Russell, Pennsylvania

Christian Science, 1879, Mary Baker Eddy, Boston

Church of God in Christ, 1895, Various churches of God, Arkansas

Church of Nazarene, c. 1850-1900, Various religious bodies, Pilot Point, TX

Pentecstal, 1901, Charles F. Parkham, Topeka, KS

Aglipayan, 1902, Gregorio Aglipay, Philippines

Assemblies of God, 1914, Pentecostalism, Hot Springs, AZ

Iglesia ni Christo, 1914, Felix Manalo, Philippines

Four-square Gospel 1917, Aimee Semple
McPherson, Los Angeles, CA

United Church of Christ, 1961 Reformed and
Congregationalist, Philadelphia, PA

Calvary Chapel, 1965, Chuck Smith, Costa Mesa, CA

United Methodist, 1968, Methodist and United
Brethren, Dallas, TX

Born-again c. 1970s Various religious bodies United States

Harvest Christian 1972 Greg Laurie Riverside, CA

Saddleback 1982 Rick Warren California

Non-denominational c. 1990s various United States

So, what denomination are you? The Catholic Church is NOT a denomination. It is the only Church founded by Jesus Christ, and it is the ONLY authentic biblical Church. All others either broke away from it or were created by human beings.

 

[peary]

By the way…compliments of Scripture Catholic: History of Denominations

 

[JonNC]

Hiyas Jon

I DO believe the Catholic Church is the one. But what I’m trying to say is basically what you stated far better.

Cool!

 

[rev_kevin]

The only thing that can be proven is that Christ is the head of the church, which is his body. Colossians 1:18 So to say that one church is the true church can’t be done through the Bible,except that Christ is the church. It gives no denomination.