Can you Save People from hell?

[Jefree]

this is what im wondering. If someone is clearly going to hell for eternity, can you intervene to save them? Is it your duty or is it just an option or is it not allowed?

If someone is going to break a comandment or sin in some way, can you stop them?

Lets say a woman is going to have an abortion, can you physically stop her from having an abortion and killing a perfectly good life which God would have loved? What sshould you do? Just ignore her? Or yell at her but not actually touch her? Or should you just say mean things to her until she sees how thoughtless she is being?

I don’t know the answer. I dont have this problem exactly but I think it applies to many things in life. I see people sin a lot and try to stop them but dont know how far God wants me to go.

 

[Jefree]

oh sorry.

God Bless. Thank you.

 

[JordanSRT]

this is what im wondering. If someone is clearly going to hell for eternity, can you intervene to save them? Is it your duty or is it just an option or is it not allowed?

If someone is going to break a comandment or sin in some way, can you stop them?

Lets say a woman is going to have an abortion, can you physically stop her from having an abortion and killing a perfectly good life which God would have loved? What sshould you do? Just ignore her? Or yell at her but not actually touch her? Or should you just say mean things to her until she sees how thoughtless she is being?

I don’t know the answer. I dont have this problem exactly but I think it applies to many things in life. I see people sin a lot and try to stop them but dont know how far God wants me to go.

The Bible never specifically mentions abortion. This is significant, because herbal abortifacients–most notably pennyroyal and silphium–were in common use at the time that the New Testament was written. Jesus, Paul, and the other major figures of the New Testament were surrounded by cultures that practiced abortion, but no specific condemnation of the practice can be found in the Bible.

Likewise, Exodus 21 draws a clear demarcation between the killing of a person and the killing of a fetus. Exodus 21:12, for example, reads:

Whoever strikes a person mortally shall be put to death. If it was not premeditated, but came about by an act of God, then I will appoint for you a place to which the killer may flee.

But Exodus 21:22 reads:

When people who are fighting injure a pregnant woman so that there is a miscarriage, and yet no further harm follows, the one responsible shall be fined what the woman's husband demands, paying as much as the judges determine.

In other words: Killing a person outside of the womb warrants the death penalty or exile, but killing a fetus is punishable only by a fine–and that’s in a circumstance where the killing of a fetus takes place against the woman’s will. Exodus describes no penalty of any kind for women who choose to terminate their own pregnancies, nor does any other passage in the Bible.

 

[tobbias88]

You can never assume/know a person is going to Hell. Can’t the same woman repent…5…15…50yrs later? Who are you to judge?

I would have thought a silent prayer or bunch of flowers would be much more effective than screaming at a poor confused woman. Hate the sin…not the sinner.

 

[JordanSRT]

You can never assume/know a person is going to Hell. Can’t the same woman repent…5…15…50yrs later? Who are you to judge?

I would have thought a silent prayer or bunch of flowers would be much more effective than screaming at a poor confused woman. Hate the sin…not the sinner.

a lot of christians seem to forget this.

 

[ricko]

You could certainly use physical force to prevent a person from shooting someone. But you cannot use force to prevent an abortion. Common sense should prevail in each and every situation.

 

[LilyM]

Remember too that Jesus has taught us that sin occurs first in the mind, even before and without being committed by the body. Hence thinking lustful thoughts about a woman is equivalent to physically committing the sin of adultery with her.

You may be able to control what a person physically does, but you can never, sadly, stop them from sinning by thought.

In regard to the biblical injunction against injury of a pregnant woman - the lesser penalty would appear to be because the injury is unintended rather than because the life of a child has less value. Hence unpremeditated murder of an adult ALSO being punished with a lesser penalty - exile.

There is no indication that scripture was meant to be a complete legal guide or a complete moral code dealing explicitly with every possible event or combination of events that might contravene the moral law. No more do our criminal codes explicitly name every POSSIBLE means by which one may contravene them, some are read in by implication or analogy. So the fact that direct and intentional killing of the unborn isn’t mentioned doesn’t mean it was OK.

Scripture here refers to a situation in which men are fighting with each other, seemingly not one where they are intending to strike at or injure the pregnant woman or her unborn child directly.

The difference with abortion is that the injury is both intentional and deliberate - both against the woman and the unborn.