Can you "throw away" a vocation?

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This past week I was speaking with a woman who belonged to a religious community for close to 10 years, but left shortly before taking her perpetual vows. She then completely left the church, but is now a practicing Catholic again, after several years of being non-practicing. She told me she now regrets leaving her order, and feels she “threw away” her vocation. I won’t go into more detail about her situation specifically, but it got me thinking…

Some Sisters also leave after making perpetual vows, and some priests leave. Does this mean they didn’t really have a vocation? Or in some cases, can they have had a real vocation, and “thrown it away”, as this lady mentioned? Are they committing a sin if they leave and their vocation was real? Are people who leave the convent or the priesthood ever allowed to return again if they wish? Sorry for all the questions, but I’m interested in anyone’s thoughts on any or all of it.
 
It is possible to disregard a true vocation in search of what you “think” will make you happy. I’ve heard stories of those who left because they were constantly thinking “what ifs” about marriage, family, etc. They decided to leave and after a while in the outside, they realized that they made a huge mistake and they were admitted back to the convent.

I don’t view leaving a vocation as a sin, and I imagine God doesn’t as well since He gave us free will to live our lives as we deem will make us happy. God understands us way better than we could ever know, and He truly wants only the best for us, like a parent (He is, after all, our Loving Creator). It’s a shame that so often, people don’t understand God’s will, or they don’t take the time to listen and they let their doubts play the primary role in determining the course of their lives. These people often end up unhappy and constantly searching for the course that will make them better, when all they need to do is turn to God and do His will.

It’s a definite possibility that this former Sister left in spite of a true vocation. One never knows if God intended her to learn something from this. If she is still in search of a community, I would encourage her to do so as much as possible. There are still orders that will accept belated vocations, and I’m sure they would look at her case in a charitable manner and discern if God is calling her back to the convent.

In the meantime, I’ll be praying for her. As a fellow discerner, I have endured a few hardships myself, but I know that it’s always an uphill battle from here.

If you see this woman again, you might want to give her this prayer:
Prayer of Thomas Merton
My Lord God,
I have no idea where I am going.
I do not see the road ahead of me
Nor do I really know myself,
And the fact that I think I am following your will
Does not mean that I am actually doing so.
But I believe that the desire to please you
Does in fact please you.
And I hope that I will never do anything apart from that desire.
And I know that if I do this,
You will lead me by the right road
Though I may know nothing about it.
Therefore will I trust you always though,
I may seem to be lost and in the shadow of death.
I will not fear, for you are ever with me,
And you will never leave me to face my struggles alone. Amen.
 
Thank you for your wonderful answer. It made a lot of sense to me. Its really kind of you also to pray for her. I will be seeing her off and on over the summer months as she is in my city on vacation and staying close to my parish. I believe she is considering joining a religious order again. I will let her know what you said and that you are praying for her, I hope it gives her some encouragement. I wish you all the best also in your discernment, and I will try to pray for you in my “amatuerish” way. I have a lot of respect for anyone considering the religious life. I had a very difficult childhood but there were wonderful Sisters and a priest who helped me. The vast majority of my good childhood memories are because of them, and I am now being led to the Church on their account as well. Thanks again and take care!
 
Thank you for your wonderful answer. It made a lot of sense to me. Its really kind of you also to pray for her. I will be seeing her off and on over the summer months as she is in my city on vacation and staying close to my parish. I believe she is considering joining a religious order again. I will let her know what you said and that you are praying for her, I hope it gives her some encouragement. I wish you all the best also in your discernment, and I will try to pray for you in my “amatuerish” way. I have a lot of respect for anyone considering the religious life. I had a very difficult childhood but there were wonderful Sisters and a priest who helped me. The vast majority of my good childhood memories are because of them, and I am now being led to the Church on their account as well. Thanks again and take care!
I wish you the very best on your journey to the Church! What a blessing! You will be in my prayers, as well. Thank you for your prayers for my discernment. May God bless you and give you peace! 😃
 
Thanks for your prayers. 🙂

My best friend from highschool is a religious sister, a Daughter of St. Paul. I was chatting with her on the telephone last night and mentioned you and this whole vocation section on the forum. She said she will be praying for you also, so I thought I would let you know.
 
Thanks for your prayers. 🙂

My best friend from highschool is a religious sister, a Daughter of St. Paul. I was chatting with her on the telephone last night and mentioned you and this whole vocation section on the forum. She said she will be praying for you also, so I thought I would let you know.
Awww, thanks! Prayers are never wasted. 😉
 
I have an update regarding the woman I was speaking about in this thread. I found out more about her situation, and that she had been a Carmelite nun. She has been discerning to return, and now I just found out earlier today that they have asked her back! She doesn’t feel quite ready but is preparing herself and will likely return. I thought it was great news and just had to share. I’m sure prayers for her have definitely helped. 🙂
 
I have an update regarding the woman I was speaking about in this thread. I found out more about her situation, and that she had been a Carmelite nun. She has been discerning to return, and now I just found out earlier today that they have asked her back! She doesn’t feel quite ready but is preparing herself and will likely return. I thought it was great news and just had to share. I’m sure prayers for her have definitely helped. 🙂
That is great news! I’ll keep her in my prayers. 🙂
 
The only thing that I will add to this thread is that no one has the right to enter or leave religious life, male or female. The highest authority on this is the voice of Christ as spoken through the authority of the Church. That is why the Church must approve the profession of vows and she must also approve the dispensation.

I have no idea why among women religious there seems to be a sense of entitlement about the freedom to enter and leave religious life. There is no such freedom. If a religious man or woman leaves a religious community without the proper permission, he or she commits a very grave sin which can and usually ends up in excommunication. The Church only lifts these for merciful reasons, such as the case where the person attempts marriage and the Church wants them to fix up their marriage inside the Church.

I have found that among religious men (brothes) the very idea of being free to come and go as one pleases is not as prevalent as among women. For example, in my own community we still ask for permission to sleep outside the religious house, to carry money except for busfare, to have more clothes than two habits and a pair of work jeans. Can you imagine ever thinking that we can just leave after making solemn vows.

I can’t figure out why the difference in thought.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
 
Thanks for those thoughts Brother, that’s interesting as I don’t know much about nuns and brothers and the differences. I will say though, I don’t think she casually left… something very traumatic happened to her and the nuns within her community (I can’t go into details here). She became very ill over it and couldn’t cope. She does not feel worthy to return now, but they have asked her back.
 
The only thing that I will add to this thread is that no one has the right to enter or leave religious life, male or female.
On the other hand, if someone thinks they may have a vocation to the religious life or priesthood, I would encourage them to try it out. There’s a reason that a person doesn’t take vows immediately or get ordained immediately. The years leading up to a permanent commitment are part of the time of discernment. If it turns out the person isn’t called to that life, there’s still much benefit that can come from having lived it for some period of time.
 
On the other hand, if someone thinks they may have a vocation to the religious life or priesthood, I would encourage them to try it out. There’s a reason that a person doesn’t take vows immediately or get ordained immediately. The years leading up to a permanent commitment are part of the time of discernment. If it turns out the person isn’t called to that life, there’s still much benefit that can come from having lived it for some period of time.
I agree with you 100% on that score. There is nothing wrong with asking for admission to the religious life, male or female. Some saints were turned down several times before being admitted. There is something to be said for perseverence when one believes that one is truly following Christ’s call.

I guess whaI I may have poorly addressed is the so called freedom to leave. Just as you are ot free to enter, you are not as free as you think to leave once you have made final vows. I’m very concerned that women religious in the USA and some European and Canadian communities as well, believe that they can bypass the system or the institutional Church, as if their religioius vows were a private commitment between them and God or between them and their congregations.

This is not the true doctrine on religious life for either brothers or sisters. I’m deliberately leaving priests out of this, because you can be a priest without being a religious. About half of the priests in the Western Church are not religious. They are secular men. All married deacons are clerics, but they are not religious. They too are secular men. Priests who belong to Secular Orders are also secular men.

A religious is a man or woman consecrates his or her life to live the Gospel much more deeply through the public profession of chastity, poverty and obedience. We live this intense Gospel life in a very organized or structured community with rules, traditions, history, spiritual goals and ministries that are for the sole purpose of achieving the perfection of charity, not the solution of every social ill.

Today, there seems to be a strong movement among many women religious to in two different directions. The fist is the remnant group from what I consider a mistaken translation of Vatican’ II’s request that religious return to their original charism. Many returned to the original ministry, but left behind the orignial customs, discipline and prayer life of the community, along with their obedience to canonical authority.

The second group of sisters that we have seen coming up since the 1940s are the likes of the Missionaries of Charity, the Franciscans Sisters of the Renewal, the Franciscan Sisters of the Immaculata, the Sistes of Life in NY, the Franciscan Sisters of the Eucharist, the Dominican Sisters of St. Cecilia, the Dominican Sisters of Mary, the Poor Clares, and many other religioius communities that have settled for the cloistered life or the mendicant life. It seems that the mendicant and the enclosed communities of women are recovering and new ones are rising.

What I’m encouraging is that those who are considering the religious life, male or female, try to look at communities that are rising, because they seem to show balance.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
 
I’ll just add to this thread that I know secondhand of a woman who very strongly (if not with some sort of true certainty) knows/believes that she was called to consecrated virginity… but she “destroyed” (my source’s term) that by ceasing to be a virgin.
 
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