Cannabis

[Musician]

Mindless arguments. How many cars and planes were in use in whatever BC year you’re talking about?

And the hemlock argument is VALID. Every single mindless druggie idiot says God gave us that plant and by virtue of it being here, we’re just so obviously supposed to smoke it. You’re surrounded by plants. Smoke them all.

Do you eat vegatables and other forms of plant life? Then you also are surrounded by plants.
Eat them all, including hemlock.

 

[gonefishing]

Okay. I am sitting here WISHING I had a bong and yes, I love Jesus. And I try to obey the rules of the Church.
What is your point, exactly, besides wiping the froth from your mouth?

You don’t love any God. You do not obey God. Where in the bible did Jesus get high or tell you to get high? NOWHERE.

Why is it the only way I can escape the garbage in this country is to off myself? This is a religious forum, and I’m not even safe in here? What else do you want to legalize? Prostitution? All “recreational” drugs? God hates druggies. Get out.

Exit bag. I’m sick of the worthless apes in this country. Exit bag.

 

[gonefishing]

Do you eat vegatables and other forms of plant life? Then you also are surrounded by plants.
Eat them all, including hemlock.

Please eat a handful of hemlock.

 

[Musician]

The moral decay in this country is already occurring at the speed of sound. We don’t need this. Get your pro-druggie garbage out of this forum.

I am engaging in an honest debate here. You may disagree with me on this matter, but please keep the venom at a reasonable level.

 

[gonefishing]

I am engaging in an honest debate here. You may disagree with me on this matter, but please keep the venom at a reasonable level.

Get your pro-druggie garbage out of this forum. I can’t even be safe on a religious website? Get this pro-druggie garbage out of this forum. It’s not healthy and it’s not a wonder drug or a safe cigarette, and you sitting around getting high does NOT cure anyone’s cancer. Get this pro-druggie garbage out of here. There are people’s kids reading in here and their parents don’t know their kids are on a religious website being told it’s okay to go get high. Get this out of here.

 

[honestquestions]

The moral decay in this country is already occurring at the speed of sound. We don’t need this. Get your pro-druggie garbage out of this forum.

By your logic we should also suspend the drugs of tylenol, and countless other drugs that stop pain, etc.

 

[DanteAlighieri]

I just wanted to talk my opinion at this. As a guy that is becoming more and more religious, and openly seeking God, I just wanted to say that after about 2 years of smoking cannabis, directly resulting in my thinking more and more about the meaning of life, stumbled upon Catholicism and Christianity.

Note that it was God who brought out your curiosity in Catholicism – NOT smoking pot. God is able to use our flaws and our sinfulness to His purposes; even an alcoholic, for example, can be awakened to God’s truth through a drunken experience. Don’t confuse God using your stoned curiosity to bring you closer to Him with the notion that smoking marijuana brought you closer to God.

I agree with a lot of Catholicism, except for when it comes to this plant.

Actually, the Church has no moral teaching on the use of marijuana per se. She does, however, condemn the ILLEGAL use of drugs, because of the great evils that are done by drug traffickers. In the mind of the Church, a nation has the right to ban a substance, and if it does, its people are morally obliged to obey that law. Period.

I used to drink a lot, and lose my mind but when it comes to cannabis, my mind became more introverted and ask questions about life. I understand that Rastafari believe it to be the tree of life, from Garden of Eden. Which when thought about, is an extremely beautiful thought. This being said, it is the only plant that is found all over the world, originally.

The Rastafarians also believe that Hale Salessi, dictator of Ethiopia, was God incarnate. I’d recommend a modicum of skepticism when evaluating the beliefs of Rastafarianism, or any religion for which a mind-altering substance is a vital part.

My belief is that, it should be a sacrament and holy thing to do and should be a rare thing, to bring you closer to God. The bad thing is, it is illegal. For whatever reason. I see a rise in atheism, resulting from that. Criminals become wealthy from it, which is truly wrong.

Unfortunately, you have a misguided idea of what a sacrament is. Sacraments are supernatural gifts that connect the physical world with the spiritual. None of the sacraments of the Church contain or need any altered mental state or “higher consciousness” – that’s not what they’re for. They are given to us to purify us of our sins, strengthen our faith and our will, and unite us with Christ.

The “rise in atheism” you see should not be attributed to the illegality of marijuana – it’s the result of man’s selfishness and pride.

Peace,
Dante

 

[gonefishing]

By your logic we should also suspend the drugs of tylenol, and countless other drugs that stop pain, etc.

Those are painkillers used to treat legitimate pain. They are NOT for getting high. What don’t you get?

 

[gonefishing]

And this person has kids and grandkids? Are you getting them all high?

I sat in the ER of Pocono Medical Center for 6 hours with my best friend while her son and nephew were in the back being treated for OD.

They HAD pot. They didn’t stop with pot.

How dare you! There are people’s kids in this supposedly safe website having a total stranger tell them all the supposed advantages and even morality to getting stoned. How dare you!

This thread should be deleted. Druggies have NEVER not found a million and one ways to logically justify this worthless deviant habit. People are trying desperately to raise drug-free kids in this druggie culture. What right do you have to sabotage that? Get this pro-druggie garbage out of here.

 

[Musician]

Those are painkillers used to treat legitimate pain. They are NOT for getting high. What don’t you get?

I don’t get why you’re so hostile. Do you drink wine or spirits at all? Just curious.

Also, what kind of Catholicism do you practice where abortion should be as easy as going to the drugstore, and suicide should be legalized?

 

[gonefishing]

It is called the gateway drug because it is A SOFT ENTRY INTO DRUG USE. Who starts out with crack or heroine??

Marijuana is INFINITELY more dangerous than crack, meth, heroine, coke, or acid. Why?

BECAUSE NONE OF THOSE OTHER DRUGS EVER EVER EVER TRIES TO CONVINCE YOU THEY’RE HARMLESS.

Whereas pot walks in grinning.

This whole thread needs to be deleted. You’re pushing drugs on other people’s kids.

 

[gonefishing]

I don’t get why you’re so hostile. Do you drink wine or spirits at all? Just curious.

Also, what kind of Catholicism do you practice where abortion should be as easy as going to the drugstore, and suicide should be legalized?

No, subject innocent babies to this country and this world where the only purpose of life is to sleep around, get drunk, get high, and work a job???

You do NOT subject an innocent to 60 - 80 years of that! Legalize pot–then make abortion legal EVERYWHERE and completely free. You people have stripped all meaning from life. If you legalize abortion and make it easy to get, you don’t force those kids to have to live meaningless, empty, zombie-like lives and then have to do what I’m doing right now, which is to try to work up the courage to open the valves on my tanks. No. You have nothing at all here for those kids. Let parents terminate those pregnancies.

 

[gonefishing]

God NEVER said to sit around getting high. Never. God never got high. In fact, the bible says on two occasions he rejected the drugs of his day. We have things on this earth enabling man to do good AND to do evil. Just to see what we choose.

By sitting around getting high, you spit in God’s face.

Why is a religious website the proper venue for shoving the pro-drug agenda down everyone’s throats?

We don’t need a Satan to do evil. We do evil all by ourselves. There is no devil with big red horns. Satan is man. Man is Satan. You spit in God’s face. And Satan walks in here, and no one bats an eye.

Yeah, it happens just that quick. Get this pro-druggie garbage out of here.

 

[honestquestions]

Those are painkillers used to treat legitimate pain. They are NOT for getting high. What don’t you get?

Cancer Patient: Only marijuana makes the pain go away
gonefishing: I’ve never smoked before

Cancer Patient>gonefishing

 

[honestquestions]

the only purpose of life is to sleep around, get drunk, get high, and work a job???

You forgot fishing.

 

[Musician]

It is called the gateway drug because it is A SOFT ENTRY INTO DRUG USE. Who starts out with crack or heroine??

Marijuana is INFINITELY more dangerous than crack, meth, heroine, coke, or acid. Why?

BECAUSE NONE OF THOSE OTHER DRUGS EVER EVER EVER TRIES TO CONVINCE YOU THEY’RE HARMLESS.

Whereas pot walks in grinning.

This whole thread needs to be deleted. You’re pushing drugs on other people’s kids.

Actually, the whole “gateway drug” thing is pretty much in doubt. The University of New Hampshire has done a quite recent study on this, and the conclusion is that race/ethnicity is a far greater factor in determining hard-core drug use than the use of marijuana is. In fact, all kinds of factors were far more important in determining which people were most at risk for drug addiction: economic class, educational level, etc.
I’m not pushing anything on anyone’s kids. However, to tell your children that marijuana is just as bad and dangerous as crystal meth is simply untrue.
And to prohibit discussion on issues such as marijuana use is rather silly. We should be able to discuss these matters in a less vicious environment. You are overreacting. Calm down.

 

[gonefishing]

Cancer Patient: Only marijuana makes the pain go away
gonefishing: I’ve never smoked before

Cancer Patient>gonefishing

How many supposed cancer patients and glacoma patients turned dealer and had to be raided once the drug was legalized for that?

Same mindless set of arguments on every website this issue has come up on.

Pot’s mild, right? But they need it for pain? Pot’s mild, but it relieves pain that percocet and darvocet and even morphine can’t alleviate? Right. Take that lame argument on a walk. Europe has this drug in pill form. So why does america want the weed itself to sit around smoking it–when we all know smoking is UNhealthy–are we not getting high on the pills? We insist on sitting around like cheech and chong stinking up the house and subjecting everyone else to the contact high and the foul smell?

Hippies–that’s one generation that as a whole should have been smothered in their cribs. They’ve done more damage to this country than the last 3 wars.

Get this pro-druggie garbage out of here.

 

[gonefishing]

Actually, the whole “gateway drug” thing is pretty much in doubt. The University of New Hampshire has done a quite recent study on this, and the conclusion is that race/ethnicity is a far greater factor in determining hard-core drug use than the use of marijuana is. In fact, all kinds of factors were far more important in determining which people were most at risk for drug addiction: economic class, educational level, etc.
I’m not pushing anything on anyone’s kids. However, to tell your children that marijuana is just as bad and dangerous as crystal meth is simply untrue.
And to prohibit discussion on issues such as marijuana use is rather silly. We should be able to discuss these matters in a less vicious environment. You are overreacting. Calm down.

It is NOT in doubt. It means that pot is a soft entry into drug use. You want to get high–you don’t start with smoking coke or snorting crack or dropping acid. That’s too scary. You start with pot.

Pot is mild and makes everyone giggle. It’s harmless, right? Yeah, start with pot. It’s not in doubt. Soft entry into drug use.

 

[gonefishing]

You’re here for no other reason than to introduce the same weak arguments I see on every other website. You’re a drug pusher. You don’t have to sell it in order to push it. You’re going to burn in hell for that.

Evil’s greatest weapon is to create mass confusion and have good people doubting their own sense of morality. While we’re all sitting around waiting for a demon in red horns, Satan’s in the corner of the room smiling wide, wearing jeans, and telling your kids how pot’s such a good thing.

Love you, Jesus. Thanks for the pot.

 

[Musician]

Well, gonefishing, I have to get to bed now. The conversation has been interesting.
Just to recap: you are fine with legalized abortion and assisted suicide, but definitely against smoking pot? Just checking. It seems a little odd, though.
BTW, you should probably check the Bible on your statement that Satan is man, man is Satan. I’m not sure where you came up with that.
Additionally, to wish that all hippies should have been smothered in their cribs seems a bit extreme.
Thanks for telling me I’ll burn in hell. You seem very certain of this. Have you received some sort of privileged information? Or is that tinfoil hat you’re wearing interfering with the normal exchange of neurotransmitters in your brain?