Canons Regular of St. John Cantius Question

[celtic1967]

Hello everyone

As some of you may know I am planning a trip to the United States to visit a few Priestly orders.

The Fathers of Mercy

The Marians of the Immaculate Conception

IVE ( Institute of The Incarnate Word )

Do any of you know anything about the The Canons Regular of St. John Cantius ? Has anyone visited them to discern a calling ?

Here is a recent email i sent to Fr. Frank Phillips

Hello Father
I am currently looking to join a strong Religious order and join the priesthood. I am from Scotland Father so I am a British citizen would this stop me from joining the The Canons Regular of St. John Cantius.
In Christ
Chistopher

Dear Christopher,We have men from Canada, but they have all the necessary paperwork, visas, etc. On the side of the community, we do not have the ability to sponsor a candidate. In otherwords you have to supply all the necessary paperwork, fees, etc.Fr. Frank Phillips, C.R.

I think from his reply that all the paperwork and visas would be if i was to join. But does anyone know anything about this ? Unfortunatly i dont have a clue about obtaining visa’s etc.
Does anyone believe a visa would be granted under them circumstances ?
I only ask because if not there would be no real point in visiting The Canons Regular of St. John Cantius.
But if there was a possibility it would be more than worth my while

Thankyou
In Christ
Chris

 

[RPSisters]

Our new emerging community of Catholic Consecrated Religious Sisters live in Chicago and we are friends with the Canons of St. John Cantius. Believe me, they are worth looking into. They are true Catholics, orthodox and holy men. Fr. Frank Philips and the other Priests are worth getting to know. The Church is beautiful. The music is heavenly. You would have to come into the country as a visitor to just “visit”. Then if you discern that you are going to join them in the U.S. you contact U.S. Immigration for your Visa. While you are still in Scotland contact your U.S. Consulate to ask about immigrating to the U.S. and a “Religious” Visa. Let me know if I can be of anymore help and do not hesitate to contact the Canons of St. John Cantius again because they will help you also.

Sincerely in Christ,
Sister Kathleen Marie Marshall
The Sisters of The Real Presence of Our Lord Jesus Christ

 

[Friar_David_O.Carm]

Our new emerging community of Catholic Consecrated Religious Sisters live in Chicago and we are friends with the Canons of St. John Cantius. Believe me, they are worth looking into. They are true Catholics, orthodox and holy men. Fr. Frank Philips and the other Priests are worth getting to know. The Church is beautiful. The music is heavenly. You would have to come into the country as a visitor to just “visit”. Then if you discern that you are going to join them in the U.S. you contact U.S. Immigration for your Visa. While you are still in Scotland contact your U.S. Consulate to ask about immigrating to the U.S. and a “Religious” Visa. Let me know if I can be of anymore help and do not hesitate to contact the Canons of St. John Cantius again because they will help you also.

Sincerely in Christ,
Sister Kathleen Marie Marshall
The Sisters of The Real Presence of Our Lord Jesus Christ

I believe that a religious visa is only for a religious who is going to be working as a religious.

Those joining orders come to the States on a student visa, at least those who come to the states to join us (Carmelites) do.

 

[ack]

Hello Chris,

I have met the Canons Regular of St. John Cantius and one of my friends lives there. They’re a great group, and if you feel a call to their charism (the restoration of the sacred through liturgies, art, music, etc), I would not hesitate to investigate them.

Although I have no personal experience in this, in general, it is easy for British citizens to get visas to study in the US. At least, it is easier for them than for citizens from almost any other country. I would not let this stop you from investigating them and discerning your vocation here.

 

[celtic1967]

Hello everyone

Thanyou so much for all your replys.

I have some great news I will be visiting The Canons Regular of St. John Cantius in January 2010 for a Vocational visit. I am so over excited I can barely sit down

Although I do have some worries about the Extraordinary Mass I have never been to one before. I dont know any of the responses or when to stand and sit. I just hope I dont look like a complete dummy who is wasting their time.
I really love the Tridentine Mass I get goosebumps everytime I watch it or talk about it and i really feel this is where my calling may lie. And this is the main reason I want to visit The Canons Regular of St. John Cantius. I really want to learn more about it so if anyone could give me some much needed help it would be very much appreciated.

Another worry is that God has graced me with one of the worst singing voices known to man. And I know that The Canons Regular of St. John Cantius take there music and choirs very seriously. Where does this leave me ?

Thankyou

In Christ
Chris
Ave Maria

 

[JReducation]

I believe that a religious visa is only for a religious who is going to be working as a religious.

Those joining orders come to the States on a student visa, at least those who come to the states to join us (Carmelites) do.

Br. David is correct. To get a religious visa you must meet several criteria.

1. You must a member of the community and you’re being sent to the USA on assignment or for studies.
2. The community must be recognized and approved by the INS to sponsor foreigners. The Canons are not. I believe that’s what Father was trying to say in his letter.
3. The community must prove that it will cover all of your financial expenses while in the USA. This may be the glitch. The Canons are a small institute. They may not have the money to guarrantee that they can pay for a candidate’s education. Without that, the INS will not allow them to sponsor a candidate.
4. The Canadians and the English are treated differently. The requirements for them are not as stringent. I said English, because the requirements for other citizens of the UK are stringent… Our English friars enter and leave the USA all the time, but the Scotts and Northern Irish seem to have to meet more requirements or get shorter stays. I don’t know why.
5. The only other way to enter as a minister, which is the proper immigration title, is to enter through the Vatican or through one of the big orders: i.e. Carmelites, Jesuits, Franciscans, etc. Their Generalates are recognized by the INS.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF