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joji
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In the New Testament God revealed His wrath through in very punitive and often violent ways. Two questions, 1) Does this infer that God was violent? 2) Was God in favor of “capital punishment?”
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Genesis315
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In a perfect world where there was no sin, there would be no capital punishment.
That being said, because of our fallen nature, violence must often be used to protect the innocent and to ensure justice. Thus, in the Old Testament God commanded His people to use the death penalty and aided them in some wars.
We should understand war and the death penalty as something permitted because of the hardness of our hearts, but not an ideal or something absolutely commanded if other solutions are available.
That being said, because of our fallen nature, violence must often be used to protect the innocent and to ensure justice. Thus, in the Old Testament God commanded His people to use the death penalty and aided them in some wars.
We should understand war and the death penalty as something permitted because of the hardness of our hearts, but not an ideal or something absolutely commanded if other solutions are available.
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iamscifimike
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From Genesis 9:
To the first question, I think this is a matter of perspective and the definition of the word violence. Take the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah. Seemingly violent act in its reputation, but the only witness(es) is a pillar of salt. A question that might require response : is turning someone into a pillar of salt a violent act?
Is commanding the Israelites to wipe out another nation violent by proxy? Again from the perspective of eternity we really have no witness or testimony. Perhaps no.
God says this to Noah seems to set up a provision for capital punishment. However this is when the Nation of Israel is still in its infancy and His plan for the nation ( like any good father ) adapts as the “child” matures.[6] Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed; for God made man in his own image.
To the first question, I think this is a matter of perspective and the definition of the word violence. Take the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah. Seemingly violent act in its reputation, but the only witness(es) is a pillar of salt. A question that might require response : is turning someone into a pillar of salt a violent act?
Is commanding the Israelites to wipe out another nation violent by proxy? Again from the perspective of eternity we really have no witness or testimony. Perhaps no.
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Athanasiy
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Abolishion of capital punishment is just a result of developed justice.
I think its a Christian duty to vote and to strugle for the abolishion of the death sentense .
I think its a Christian duty to vote and to strugle for the abolishion of the death sentense .
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DaveBj
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Actually, the Israeli nation was some hundreds of years in the future. The passage in question is part of the Noahic Covenant, and it has never been abrogated.From Genesis 9:
God says this to Noah seems to set up a provision for capital punishment. However this is when the Nation of Israel is still in its infancy and His plan for the nation ( like any good father ) adapts as the “child” matures.
As to whether God, as He is revealed in the New Testament, is in favor of capital punishment, I think Ananias and Sapphira would probably say that He is.
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