Captain Roniel Aledo / Bishop Fellay (attempted) Debate

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The Captain (Ret.) Roniel Aledo / Bishop Fellay (attempted) Debate may be viewed HERE
 
Sean O L:
The Captain (Ret.) Roniel Aledo / Bishop Fellay (attempted) Debate may be viewed HERE
First off, I do not know if this blog is actually true, so I will be a little skeptical of it for the moment

However, if it is true, this so-called “Bishop”'s response is indicative of the mentality of the schism.

Instead of directly responding to the arguments presented, the response starts out:
As our Lord Jesus commanded us to bless those who curse, I have to bless you and will assure you of my prayers towards Our Lord Jesus Christ and His blessed Mother.
The rest of the letter has the same combative, arrogant, and condescending tone to it implying that they are More Catholic than the Pope.

I have bookmarked this site and may use it to cause a member of this cult to have a cerebral meltdown.

PF
 
What Christian behavoir!! I will cause those “schismatics” to have cerebral meltdowns. Hurrah You’re going to mortally wound someone. Hurrah! THere is no more 5th commandment anymore because they are dirty schismatics?
 
Sean O L:
The Captain (Ret.) Roniel Aledo / Bishop Fellay (attempted) Debate may be viewed HERE
Sean,

This debate can only be settled by time either the SPPX will grow or it will wither away.
I personally feel the SPPX will reunite with Rome, as Rome will become more orthodox. What are the choices Cardinal Mahoney style abuses or Bishop Fellay’s Orthodoxy. I am not speaking of the SPPX’s failure to accept vatican II, just their orthodoxy.

Fogny
 
If it’s on the Internet then it must be true. :rotfl: :whacky:
 
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Fogny:
or Bishop Fellay’s Orthodoxy. I am not speaking of the SPPX’s failure to accept vatican II, just their orthodoxy.
If there is no union with Rome, Bishop Fellay doesn’t have orthodoxy.

John
 
John Higgins:
If there is no union with Rome, Bishop Fellay doesn’t have orthodoxy.

John
If this is true then I did not make myself clear. I meant in Bp. Fellay’s preference to the rite and rituals before Vatican II.

Fogny
 
Okay.

About your signature, I trust you know that that is not the quote is not the one from the TLM. They way you have it is “speak but the word and my boy will be healed.” Do we have something to add to the prayer list?

John
 
John Higgins:
Okay.

About your signature, I trust you know that that is not the quote is not the one from the TLM. They way you have it is “speak but the word and my boy will be healed.” Do we have something to add to the prayer list?

John
Thank you for the correction of latin, but you’re attitude is in bad taste.

Fogny
 
John Higgins:
Okay.

About your signature, I trust you know that that is not the quote is not the one from the TLM. They way you have it is “speak but the word and my boy will be healed.” Do we have something to add to the prayer list?

John
It could just be Matthew 8:8. I don’t have a Latin bible handy to check it out.

James
 
No sarcasm here. I meant what I said.

FYI, it is “et sanabitur anima mea”, i.e., “and my soul will be healed”.

I had actually thought you may have had some boy who needed healing.

John
 
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Fogny:
Sean,

This debate can only be settled by time either the SPPX will grow or it will wither away.
I personally feel the SPPX will reunite with Rome, as Rome will become more orthodox. What are the choices Cardinal Mahoney style abuses or Bishop Fellay’s Orthodoxy. I am not speaking of the SPPX’s failure to accept vatican II, just their orthodoxy.

Fogny
Here we go again! You act like SSPX’s failure to accept Vatican II is just a trivial matter. We’ll just forget about that little part and he’s just peachy? Argh! Even a blind squirrel (Mahoney) can find a nut once in awhile. Does this mean we should extoll him and forget his other transgressions?
 
John Higgins:
No sarcasm here. I meant what I said.

FYI, it is “et sanabitur anima mea”, i.e., “and my soul will be healed”.

I had actually thought you may have had some boy who needed healing.
John
John, you are assuming that Fogny was quoting the TLM.
However his sig says:
Domine non sum dignus ut intres sub tectum meum sed tantum dic verbo et sanabitur puer meus
Matt:8:8 in the Vulgate says:
…Domine non sum dignus ut intres sub tectum meum sed tantum dic verbo et sanabitur puer meus

So in the context of a Scriptural quote, he is correct. Only when you apply it to the changes made for the TLM, does it become inaccurate.

I think that the subsequent remark by dear Fogny would have been avoided if you would have pointed out the correctness as a Scriptural quote.

I had read his sig earlier, and did some digging. When I found it as a Scripture quote, I let it rest.
God bless, I do not think you meant anything other than a comment in charity.
 
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TNT:
John, you are assuming that Fogny was quoting the TLM.
However his sig says:
Domine non sum dignus ut intres sub tectum meum sed tantum dic verbo et sanabitur puer meus
Matt:8:8 in the Vulgate says:
…Domine non sum dignus ut intres sub tectum meum sed tantum dic verbo et sanabitur puer meus

So in the context of a Scriptural quote, he is correct. Only when you apply it to the changes made for the TLM, does it become inaccurate.

I think that the subsequent remark by dear Fogny would have been avoided if you would have pointed out the correctness as a Scriptural quote.

I had read his sig earlier, and did some digging. When I found it as a Scripture quote, I let it rest.
God bless, I do not think you meant anything other than a comment in charity.
You are both kind and right. I did change it as I added the priests prayer at receiving our blessed Lord.

Fogny
 
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Fogny:
Sean,

This debate can only be settled by time either the SPPX will grow or it will wither away.
Only settled by time?

SSPX will grow or it will wither away?

So if it grows then you think it is true?

Then you must think that protestantism and islam are true becuase of their growth.

Growth of a schismatic group proves nothing except for the fact that many love schism over the truth.
 
All,

I should have remembered that part. Silly me. Here’s that verse in another language to show that my participation in this thread is Finnished.

8:8 Mutta sadanpäämies vastasi ja sanoi: "Herra, en minä ole sen arvoinen, että tulisit minun kattoni alle; vaan sano ainoastaan sana, niin minun palvelijani paranee.

Blessings,

John
 
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ByzCath:
Only settled by time?

SSPX will grow or it will wither away?

So if it grows then you think it is true?

Then you must think that protestantism and islam are true becuase of their growth.

Growth of a schismatic group proves nothing except for the fact that many love schism over the truth.
There is clearly 2 truths present in the Latin Church today.
  1. The Christ centered Church prior to Vatican II
  2. The Man centered Church today.
If it keeps up you will have just Eucharistic ministers, not a Priest to be found.

Fogny
 
Catholic29 Quote:
Originally Posted by Fogny
There is clearly 2 truths present in the Latin Church today.
  1. The Christ centered Church prior to Vatican II
  2. The Man centered Church today.
If it keeps up you will have just Eucharistic ministers, not a Priest to be found.
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Amen!

Fogny, there is only ONE HOLY CATHOLIC AND APOSTOLIC Church instituted by Christ, maintained by the Holy Spirit, until the END of the WORLD. That Church (which has endured much suffering over the last two thousand odd years is visible and under the Vicar of Christ in Rome - currently being Pope John Paul II.

You are suffering from a delusion. I hope it goes away quickly.

What you are saying is heterodox.
 
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