Cardinal Burke and Bishop Schneider ask for prayer and fasting

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But you’re making judgments about bishops yourself. Do you think they’re fair game?
 
Very sad people think they can demand bishops stop being vicars as Christ mandated.
 
Calm down, he has only said the document contains heresy, as a couple of Bishops in good standing evidently think it does. Your instinct to silence views you disagree with is enlightening.
 
You have said this twice with zero documentation, as if you speak for the Church. If you are attacking my spiritual father, you really should have solid, irrefutable proof.
 
He said the Church has declared this as heresy, not a minority voice within the Church. And he has made the claim with no evidence.

I hope people understand that when people speak as a Catholic, without evidence it carries the weight of air in a vacuum.
 
He said the document contains topics the church deems heretical. Lets not rephrase others.
 
I’ve finished reading the Bishop’s letter. I agree with some of its concerns and disagree with others, but only because i have an interest in Shamanism and believe it’s possible the bishop may possibly misunderstand some of the language used. I agree with his concerns about the parts talking about an additional revelation and criticizing the basic teaching on salvation as ‘corporatist’ forgetting it’s Jesus who commanded going out and making everyone a Christian to save them. Was he corporatist? I don’t think so. It is Catholic dogma that Jesus is the only source of salvation.
 
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Agreed!

That’s literally just pathetic, and shows you don’t have any good points to make.
 
It doesn’t. I would just like to see the original document being criticized, since it seems he may have some questionable backgrounds…
 
Do you have a link to the document alleged to contain heresy or other errors?
 
He does not, with due respect (“have a questionable background”, that is.) Cardinal Burke occupied one of the most prestigious offices in the church under the last two popes and has never been disciplined for anything wrong, seeing as he’s so thoroughly orthodox. Indeed, any trouble he has experienced is likely due to that orthodoxy.
 
The amount of criticism he has of the pope could alone be sufficient reason to look further into his theology, ideologies and viewpoints, motives, etc…
 
His criticisms are all open, transparent, HIGHLY respectful (this must be emphasised–Cardinal Burke has been nothing but reverent in his approach to the pope), and perfectly in line with his office as Bishop. This idea that popes are impeccable and other bishops (or even laity) must never notice anything off about any actions of his holiness is not Catholic or biblical. It’s ultramontanist. We do not believe in a pope immune to mistakes.
 
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Do you have a link to the document alleged to contain heresy or other errors?
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http://www.sinodoamazonico.va/conte...orking-document-for-the-synod-of-bishops.html

I don’t recall Burke using the word “heresy”.
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Cardinal Burke would not use that word lightly. However the problem being addressed is the number of times here people have used the term, even claiming the Church supports the in this opinion, without, of course, being able to actually quote the Church.
 
My frustrations are far better expressed by Juan Carlos Cruz in an article from Crux.
Juan Carlos Cruz, a survivor of Chile’s most notorious pedophile priest who’s become a confidante of Pope Francis on the abuse issue;
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At one point, Cruz accused certain “conservative bishops,” specifically mentioning Italian Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò, American Cardinal Raymond Burke and Archbishop Charles Chaput of Philadelphia, of “weaponizing” the suffering of abuse victims for purposes of delivering ideological attacks on the pope.
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https://cruxnow.com/news-analysis/2...d-the-bedeviling-complexity-of-catholic-life/
 
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How are they ‘weaponized’? Excuse me, but are you implying that merely criticizing the pope’s non-action or protection of problematic prelates bad per se? Should that only be done when the non-acting/protecting prelate is a bishop of a place other than Rome? Otherwise, it’s a ‘weapon’? Has Cardinal Burke suggested the pope leave office or merely correct the errors/mistakes? In what universe is asking the person in charge of an office to correct mistakes within his power to correct a form of ‘weaponization’? That article is absurd.
 
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