Cardinal Burke: Liturgical abuse ‘strictly correlated’ with the ‘moral corruption’ of our time

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YoungTradCath said:
Thank God somebody says it.
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Realize that it was LSN that actually says this (not the quote snippets interspersed with their journalistic additions.)

What he actually said was quoted later, in which he specifies what he believes to be a correlation. The abuses he referred to are those that reduce the liturgy to some kind of human activity. He also is clear that he is offering an opinion, though one of which he is convinced. I find his logic quite sound. It is within our nature. When we are confronted with moral failings, we have two paths. One is to reach for God in contrition and seek his mercy. The second is to try and bring God down to our level. The same mechanism of guilt that leads us to call our sin normal, a choice or a lifestyle, will manifest in our liturgy, if we have say in the matter, to minimize the need for repentence.
 
I have to give LSN credit for linking the full interview.

zenit.org/en/articles/bringing-the-liturgy-back-to-the-real-vatican-ii

I would like to not for the record though that the part about “of our time” is not in the interview as a qualifier of moral corruption. It referred only to the “challenges* of our time*.” This spins his statement in a direction that Cardinal Burke did not take the interview, that is, generalizing a correlation that society as a whole is morally corrupt (something which seems true) and that the liturgy as a rule is abused (something which is not said).
 
This reminds me of one of the Seven Churches Christ addresses in Revelation. That Church was very bad off, but Jesus said that there are some/few who have not sullied their robes and that they would walk with Him in white, “for they are worthy”.

We shouldn’t leave a spiritually poor church, but be the light in it, I guess.
 
april32010 said:
lifesitenews.com/news/cardinal-burke-liturgical-abuse-strictly-correlated-with-the-moral-corrupti
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Cardinal Raymond Burke, prefect of the Vatican’s Apostolic Signatura, told Zenit’s Edward Pentin that a fitting worship of God is essential to the moral life.“There’s no question in my mind that the abuses in the sacred liturgy, reduction of the sacred liturgy to some kind of human activity,” he said, “is strictly correlated with a lot of moral corruption and with a levity in catechesis that has been shocking and has left generations of Catholics ill prepared to deal with the challenges of our time by addressing the Catholic faith to those challenges.

“You can see it in the whole gamut of Church life,” he added

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Cardinal Burke said it’s a “Communist conception” to say that liturgy is less important than charitable works. The liturgy “is the source of any truly charitable works we do, any good works we do,” he explained. “So the person whose heart is filled with charity wants to do good works will, like Mother Teresa, give his first intention to the worship of God so that when he goes to offer charity to a poor person or someone in need, it would be at the level of God Himself, and not some human level.”

It’s important to note what Cardinal Burke did NOT say. He did not say that liturgical abuse and by extension the current leadership of the Church, or some of the leadership, or the teaching and communication of the Church, are the CAUSE of moral corruption. He did not say that. He said they are correlated. Does that mean that one is related to the other? That one is the symptom of the other? We don’t exactly know the answer to that question.

He also did NOT say that one particular style of liturgy fosters charity better than another.
 
ProVobis said:
As opposed to undoing the reforms?
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Um, honestly I’m not sure what context your talking about. Certainly there is no rolling back to pre-vatican ii. But that doesn’t mean what we got from it didn’t need reform (Pope Benedict XVI started) and that there isn’t necessarily room for yet more reform.
 
Tarpeian_Rock said:
I just got back from Haiti. I wonder how much good could be done there for the cost of his Cappa Magna. I guess that makes me a Communist, too. So be it.
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I suppose you should’ve snatched the oil away from Mary as Judas Iscariot had advocated, then.
 
crazzeto said:
But that doesn’t mean what we got from it didn’t need reform (Pope Benedict XVI started) and that there isn’t necessarily room for yet more reform.
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Yes, but hasn’t the liturgy been reformed in one way or another all along since Christ? Of course there’s room for “yet more reform.” 🙂
 
zenit.org/en/articles/error-in-interview-with-cardinal-burke
Error in Interview With Cardinal Burke
In an interview with ZENIT published July 25, we asked Cardinal Raymond Burke for his response to the view that the liturgy is mostly about aesthetics, and not as important as, say, good works done in faith. We misheard his reply and mistakenly reported him saying such a view was a “Communist misconception.” His Eminence would like to make clear that what he actually said was a “common misconception.” We apologize to His Eminence and to our readers for the misunderstanding.
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paperwight66 said:
That really was a terrible mistake, confusing ‘common’ and ‘Communist’.
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I don’t think so – it makes sense in context either way. The communist misconception is that all that really matters is the universal comfort of the human race, and that religion is nothing more than an “opium” which soothes us between miseries. The Catholic response to this is that liturgy is not “less important” and a subset of charity; rather, liturgy is the summit of human existence by communing with God, who IS charity.
 
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