Cardinal Castrillon: SSPX Not in Schism

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Cardinal Castrillon has never said that the bishops of SSPX are not excommunicated or the priests not suspended. He confirms that they are, in fact, excommunicated and suspended. And of course, as such, these bishops and priests commit grievous sins of disobedience when they administer sacraments even though they have been lawfully forbidden to do so.

Then—It would seem the Pope has allowed Catholics to participate in the grievious sin of disobedience by allowing them to receive confirmation from SSPX bishops. Maybe—you should write to the Vatican and notify them of this.
 

Then—It would seem the Pope has allowed Catholics to participate in the grievious sin of disobedience by allowing them to receive confirmation from SSPX bishops. Maybe—you should write to the Vatican and notify them of this.
Do you deny that suspended priests who administer sacraments are being disobedient? This applies to all suspended priests not just SSPX priests. I don’t know what the sort of sine one commits when receiving sacraments from an excommunicated bishop. I know according to Archbishop Burke, who is a prominent canon lawyer, it is a mortal sin to attend Mass said by an excommunicated priest.

Also, the Pope never encouraged people to receive confirmation from SSPX bishops, the vatican merely affirmed that the confirmations were valid. So it would appear that the SSPX can validly confirm, confect the Eucharist, baptize and ordain priests and deacons. This doesn’t change the fact that the bishops of SSPX are excommunicated and the priests are suspended.
 
Are you saying that the Orthodox have had a papal mandate for each bishop they have consecrated since 1054?
look you at this point are being a little outlandish. the great schism has never been healed. And those bishops never claimed to be in union with the pope. In fact many go out of there way to point out that though they may have ecumenical acts with rome they are not in union with rome. Now all this is going real far afield from the whole point and I am sorry we got side tracked. The point is the papal recomendation not to go to an sspx mass. The point is the original ring leaders were excommunicated. The point is according to rome if you are attending an sspx mass on a regular basis you do so at your own risk. end of story.
 
Also, the Pope never encouraged people to receive confirmation from SSPX bishops, the vatican merely affirmed that the confirmations were valid. So it would appear that the SSPX can validly confirm, confect the Eucharist, baptize and ordain priests and deacons. This doesn’t change the fact that the bishops of SSPX are excommunicated and the priests are suspended
Again, I’m just curious. Where did you see that they were deemed valid? I’m not saying that they weren’t, I’m just curious. Their confirmations have always been murky at best (unlike their confessions and marriages). I have e-mailed Jimmy Akin to ask him of the situation of which he was speaking but haven’t heard back. Thanks.
 
So, I have a choice, a Traditional Mass at a SSPX chapel or a one with liturgical dancers, kool-aid pitchers,honey flavored hosts, electric guitars, shorts & T-shirts etc…and if I choose the SSPX I’m in schism and sin …

Hmmm…

james
 
So, I have a choice, a Traditional Mass at a SSPX chapel or a one with liturgical dancers, kool-aid pitchers,honey flavored hosts, electric guitars, shorts & T-shirts etc…and if I choose the SSPX I’m in schism and sin …

Hmmm…

james
What diocese are you in?
 
So, I have a choice, a Traditional Mass at a SSPX chapel or a one with liturgical dancers, kool-aid pitchers,honey flavored hosts, electric guitars, shorts & T-shirts etc…and if I choose the SSPX I’m in schism and sin …

Hmmm…

james
As if this is your only choice.
 
Apply the same reasoning of questioning the SSPX confirmations as valid to the Eastern Orthodox Church. Did the Eastern Orthodox faithful --who were chrismated during the time that the Eastern Orthodox were excommunicated—receive and die with invalid chrismation.
 
JKirk & David,

1st response Los Angeles

2nd David, I have very close access(15 miles) to Greek, Coptic and Antiochian Orthodox Churches, a SSPX Chapel, 3 Catholic parishes and a Benedictine Monastery. The Eastern Catholics are about 50 miles away.

I will not comment on the flaws of the 3 parishes online but y’all know L.A.

JKirk, ever been to St. Joseph the Worker on Sahara west side of town ?

james
 
JKirk & David,

1st response Los Angeles

2nd David, I have very close access(15 miles) to Greek, Coptic and Antiochian Orthodox Churches, a SSPX Chapel, 3 Catholic parishes and a Benedictine Monastery. The Eastern Catholics are about 50 miles away.

I will not comment on the flaws of the 3 parishes online but y’all know L.A.

JKirk, ever been to St. Joseph the Worker on Sahara west side of town ?

james
Saint Joseph, Husband of Mary, yes, I’ve been to Mass there many times.
 
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