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WanderAimlessly
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Writing to the Vatican may not be enought. It sounds like a canon lawyer needs to be brought into the fray. With their expertise, specific charges can br brought in a more official manner.
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Cardinal Mahoney supports event honoring a pro-abortion Catholic Mayor
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Joe_Kelley
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I am surprised he wasn’t front row center.
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miguel
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You know, I saw a bit of this on the local TV channels yesterday. Cardinal Mahony’s face was just behind the new mayor during his speech. I was asking myself who should be more embarrassed, the mayor to be seen with the Cardinal, or the Cardinal to be seen with the mayor?
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Lisa4Catholics
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Yep!
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OurLadyOfEfes
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Go to onelacatholic.blogspot.com For more pictures of this event. As the saying goes a picture is worth a thousand words!!
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Traditional_Ang
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Sgt Sweaters:
The Only E-mail I have is the one that belongs to His Holiness, Pope Benedict XVI - benedictxvi@vatican.va (English E-mail - Still works)
There would be the Congregation for the Preservation of the Faith, the former Archbishop of San Francisco’s new post. Pope Benedict XVI has promised to be more hands-on regarding these things, so you’re probably better off sending the E-mail directly to His Holiness.
Just remember to be VERY polite and to speak directly to the topic.
KTLA Channel-5 said they had mass in the morning before the ecumenical service, and they showed Mayor Villaraigosa and his wife both receiving communion from Cardinal Mahony, who then went with them in the procession to the speech. KTLA also showed the Catholic Crusaders multiple times duing the procession as they were the best formed and most orderly protestors.
KTLA also said that the Koran was read as a demonstration of Ecumenism and diveristy during the Ecumenical Service. I don’t know if the Islamic Profession of Faith was made during the service (It’s important, according to Islamic Law, any building where that’s been done automatically becomes a Mosque once that land has been incorporated into the Umma). It would be a fitting end to the legacy of Cardinal Mahony and the “Taj Mahony”.
Story of the incident between the students and the Cathedral Security is here:
MATTERS OF LIFE AND DEATH
Catholic group calls for cardinal to quit
worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=45094
L.A. CATHOLIC
A CATHOLIC LIVING WITH L.A.
onelacatholic.blogspot.com/2005/07/you-cant-be-catholic-and-pro-abortion.html
Students threatened with arrest at L.A. Cathedral prayer service for new mayor
onelacatholic.blogspot.com/2005/07/students-threatened-with-arrest-at-la.html
Cardinal Mahony’s prayer after the end…
We pray for a new kind of politics – focused on moral principles, not on the latest polls, on the needs of the poor and vulnerable, not the contributions of the rich and powerful."
…Was a sacrilege given the short shrift he gave to those with the least rights who are the most powerless, defenseless and vunerable of all. Esp. when you consider that some rich and powerful Pro-Abortion politicians who attended the ecumenical service paid for the doors and other parts of the Cathedral.
Forget resignation - HE SHOULD BE REMOVED, THE PALLIUM TAKEN FROM HIS SHOULDERS, AND THEN HE SHOULD BE DEFROCKED!
I would not trust him as a parish priest, let alone as the head of the larget archdiocese in the U.S,
Please, wait until AFTER you’ve sent your E-mails to the President and the Senate about the replacement for Justice O’Conner before dealing with this. That’s got a deadline. This doesn’t.
Blessed are they who act to save God’s Little Ones. Michael
Sgt Sweaters:
The Only E-mail I have is the one that belongs to His Holiness, Pope Benedict XVI - benedictxvi@vatican.va (English E-mail - Still works)
There would be the Congregation for the Preservation of the Faith, the former Archbishop of San Francisco’s new post. Pope Benedict XVI has promised to be more hands-on regarding these things, so you’re probably better off sending the E-mail directly to His Holiness.
Just remember to be VERY polite and to speak directly to the topic.
KTLA Channel-5 said they had mass in the morning before the ecumenical service, and they showed Mayor Villaraigosa and his wife both receiving communion from Cardinal Mahony, who then went with them in the procession to the speech. KTLA also showed the Catholic Crusaders multiple times duing the procession as they were the best formed and most orderly protestors.
KTLA also said that the Koran was read as a demonstration of Ecumenism and diveristy during the Ecumenical Service. I don’t know if the Islamic Profession of Faith was made during the service (It’s important, according to Islamic Law, any building where that’s been done automatically becomes a Mosque once that land has been incorporated into the Umma). It would be a fitting end to the legacy of Cardinal Mahony and the “Taj Mahony”.
Story of the incident between the students and the Cathedral Security is here:
MATTERS OF LIFE AND DEATH
Catholic group calls for cardinal to quit
worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=45094
L.A. CATHOLIC
A CATHOLIC LIVING WITH L.A.
onelacatholic.blogspot.com/2005/07/you-cant-be-catholic-and-pro-abortion.html
Students threatened with arrest at L.A. Cathedral prayer service for new mayor
onelacatholic.blogspot.com/2005/07/students-threatened-with-arrest-at-la.html
Cardinal Mahony’s prayer after the end…
We pray for a new kind of politics – focused on moral principles, not on the latest polls, on the needs of the poor and vulnerable, not the contributions of the rich and powerful."
…Was a sacrilege given the short shrift he gave to those with the least rights who are the most powerless, defenseless and vunerable of all. Esp. when you consider that some rich and powerful Pro-Abortion politicians who attended the ecumenical service paid for the doors and other parts of the Cathedral.
Forget resignation - HE SHOULD BE REMOVED, THE PALLIUM TAKEN FROM HIS SHOULDERS, AND THEN HE SHOULD BE DEFROCKED!
I would not trust him as a parish priest, let alone as the head of the larget archdiocese in the U.S,
Please, wait until AFTER you’ve sent your E-mails to the President and the Senate about the replacement for Justice O’Conner before dealing with this. That’s got a deadline. This doesn’t.
Blessed are they who act to save God’s Little Ones. Michael
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PF:
The Vatican won’t need to do that. If they see something such as what we’re describing, and they get enough POLITE and submissive complaints from Catholics around the world about what a SCANDAL this has caused, and thaty Cardinal Mahony causes on a continual basis, they can REMOVE him without the Canon Lawyer.
All I’m asking right now is that people help out on the campaign to get a PRO-LIFE Conservative Constitutionalist Justice to replace Justice Sandra day O’Conner.
I think if everyone E-mails the President and a few Senators and then tells 3 friends to do the same, we can match in actual numbers of people what the PRO-DEATH forces have sitting in “boiler rooms”.
That has a deadline, we need to get our E-mails on the net by Sunday morning. We can start working on Cardinal Mahony and his heresy and apostacy in a couple of days.
We need to focus so we get both the things we need to get.
Blessed are they who act to save God’s Little Ones. Michael
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puzzleannie:
The rot has infected most of the archdiocese. I know of an orthodox parish whose parishioners doesn’t want the name published by LA.Catholic, because they’re afraid that Cardinal Mahony would retaliate against them (probably by relocating their “reactionary” priests and replacing them with a “progressives”).
Why do you think I and a couple of other Catholics consider St Mary’s ANGLICAN Church (TAC NOT ECUSA) to be safer and more orthodox than the parishes in the archdiocese headed by Cardinal Mahony?
And, now everyone can see that it REALLY IS THAT BAD!
Blessed are they who act to save God’s Little Ones. Michael
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This is SICK and DISGUSTING, I am so mad (but not surprised) at Mahoney! I have NO respect for him and it’s taking all my self-control to suppress feelings of hatred, as bad as that may sound, it is true. I’ve sent a mass email to everyone I know with this story and contact numbers and some of my own commentary.I don’t blame you, Traditional Ang, for feeling the way you do!
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Wow - I pray this man (and his cronies) repents.
For 30 years, my diocese had a ‘Mahonyesque’ bishop. Matthew Fox & Starhawk (or whatever) were regular visitors. “Shamans” were frequently present in the sanctuary during mass. All previous art (sculptures, tabernacles, altars) was deemed to be worthy of destruction. He championed the appointment of priestesses, homosexual acceptance - and as we know now, was involved questionable business deals. Now this bishop eventually retired, but only after most of the faithful had been driven out or, sadly, lost their faith.
That said, I don’t know whether or not B16 will remove/excommunicate the priests & bishops who are working to destroy the Church from within. How would American Catholics react to this?
For 30 years, my diocese had a ‘Mahonyesque’ bishop. Matthew Fox & Starhawk (or whatever) were regular visitors. “Shamans” were frequently present in the sanctuary during mass. All previous art (sculptures, tabernacles, altars) was deemed to be worthy of destruction. He championed the appointment of priestesses, homosexual acceptance - and as we know now, was involved questionable business deals. Now this bishop eventually retired, but only after most of the faithful had been driven out or, sadly, lost their faith.
That said, I don’t know whether or not B16 will remove/excommunicate the priests & bishops who are working to destroy the Church from within. How would American Catholics react to this?
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miguel
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Colm O'Higgins:
:clapping: :dancing: :bounce:
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Traditional_Ang
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I wasn’t able to post this due to the surprise server maintenance:
Colm O'Higgins:
Some will react with cheers (See the post beneath yours), but most will react with resignation, because they haven’t an idea of what to do or of exactly what a terrible message was sent to the world and to the rest of the Christian Church. But, Some of us are waiting for the project we’re involved in now (the Nomination of a Justice to replace Justice Sandra Day O’Conner) to begin to wrap up so we can start to go after Cardinal Mahoney.
I may have made a tactical error. people have pretty much done what they can do with the O’Conner nomination.
I think it just might be time to start going after Cardinal Mahoney. He is NOT a Shepherd. He is a HIRELING. this Archdiocese desperately needs a Shepherd who will confront the wolves and not place them in charge of he Seminary and the chancery Office and praise them when they win lections.
Seeing your post and Miguel’s response has made me realize that it is time to act.
Thank You.
Blessed are they who act to save the lives of God’s Little Ones. Michael
Colm O'Higgins:
Colm O’Higgins
Some will react with cheers (See the post beneath yours), but most will react with resignation, because they haven’t an idea of what to do or of exactly what a terrible message was sent to the world and to the rest of the Christian Church. But, Some of us are waiting for the project we’re involved in now (the Nomination of a Justice to replace Justice Sandra Day O’Conner) to begin to wrap up so we can start to go after Cardinal Mahoney.
I may have made a tactical error. people have pretty much done what they can do with the O’Conner nomination.
I think it just might be time to start going after Cardinal Mahoney. He is NOT a Shepherd. He is a HIRELING. this Archdiocese desperately needs a Shepherd who will confront the wolves and not place them in charge of he Seminary and the chancery Office and praise them when they win lections.
Seeing your post and Miguel’s response has made me realize that it is time to act.
Thank You.
Blessed are they who act to save the lives of God’s Little Ones. Michael
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Colm O'Higgins:
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Colm O’Higgins and Ani Ibi:
I had originally thought the cheering in Miguel’s post for the present horrid circumstance. Now, I realize it would be reacting to the correction of the Heresy and Apostacy in the Church.
In that case, I think the reaction would be varied from Ani’s through Michael’s to most of the faithful, who will be glad that they will hear the Gospel the Church is commissioned to preach and not some New Age Gobbledygook or some Politically Correct Claptrap.
This is the best I can do in Re: Contact Information for Cardinal Mahony:
From - la-archdiocese.org/english/web/contact.html
Mailing address and telephone number
Archdiocese of Los Angeles
3424 Wilshire Blvd.
Los Angeles, CA 90010-2202
213 637 7000
info@la-archdiocese.org
Comment about a position or statement by Cardinal Mahony or the Archdiocese
Please contact Media Relations
Office: 213-637-7215
FAX: 213-385-6586
mediarelations@la-archdiocese.org.
Cathedral of Our Lady of the Angels
555 W. Temple Street, Los Angeles, California 90012-2707
Tel: (213) 680 - 5200
info@olacathedral.org
Misconduct
For information on how to report suspected sexual misconduct or child abuse, please visit: la-archdiocese.org/english/dept/Assist/report.htm.
Everyone here knows that I have the Pope’s e-mail address as well as that of the primate of the TAC. I’m absolutely flabbergasted that people wishing to contact Cardinal Mahony have to go through media relations!
As I said before, the man is not fit to be a Suffragan Bishop, let alone the head of the largest Archdiocese in the US. This is just more evidence of the truth of that assertion.
Since it’s Media Relations, blast away and include a Letter to the Editor of the LA Times (they don’t like him either - more proof appeasing God-haters doesn’t work) LA Times Letters to the Editor:
latimes.com/services/site/la-site-talk,0,2562859.htmlstory
If I can get more on contact information on Cardinal Mahony, I’ll share it here, esp. if it’s a direct e-mail box. I think sending the sheep to Media Relations is atrocious!
Blessed are they who act to save God’s Little Ones. Michael
I had originally thought the cheering in Miguel’s post for the present horrid circumstance. Now, I realize it would be reacting to the correction of the Heresy and Apostacy in the Church.
In that case, I think the reaction would be varied from Ani’s through Michael’s to most of the faithful, who will be glad that they will hear the Gospel the Church is commissioned to preach and not some New Age Gobbledygook or some Politically Correct Claptrap.
This is the best I can do in Re: Contact Information for Cardinal Mahony:
From - la-archdiocese.org/english/web/contact.html
Mailing address and telephone number
Archdiocese of Los Angeles
3424 Wilshire Blvd.
Los Angeles, CA 90010-2202
213 637 7000
info@la-archdiocese.org
Comment about a position or statement by Cardinal Mahony or the Archdiocese
Please contact Media Relations
Office: 213-637-7215
FAX: 213-385-6586
mediarelations@la-archdiocese.org.
Cathedral of Our Lady of the Angels
555 W. Temple Street, Los Angeles, California 90012-2707
Tel: (213) 680 - 5200
info@olacathedral.org
Misconduct
For information on how to report suspected sexual misconduct or child abuse, please visit: la-archdiocese.org/english/dept/Assist/report.htm.
Everyone here knows that I have the Pope’s e-mail address as well as that of the primate of the TAC. I’m absolutely flabbergasted that people wishing to contact Cardinal Mahony have to go through media relations!
As I said before, the man is not fit to be a Suffragan Bishop, let alone the head of the largest Archdiocese in the US. This is just more evidence of the truth of that assertion.
Since it’s Media Relations, blast away and include a Letter to the Editor of the LA Times (they don’t like him either - more proof appeasing God-haters doesn’t work) LA Times Letters to the Editor:
latimes.com/services/site/la-site-talk,0,2562859.htmlstory
If I can get more on contact information on Cardinal Mahony, I’ll share it here, esp. if it’s a direct e-mail box. I think sending the sheep to Media Relations is atrocious!
Blessed are they who act to save God’s Little Ones. Michael
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HagiaSophia
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Traditional Ang:
Normally when conmplaints come in, they are sent to whatever office the bishop has directed to handle them – depending on what the complaint is they are redirected to Liturgy, Vicar General, Prison Ministry etc. for handling. That individual ministry or office is to take appropriate action within the realm of their jurisdiction and advise the bishop of what action was or is being taken.
The same goes for the pope, whether or not you have an email address for the pope, you cannot seriously believe that the pope spends all day at his email center reading the mail. Most of the emails would be referred to the proper dicastery for handling and so one might do well to send them there in the first place.
Rome usually works better with snail mail at this point addressed to one of the authorities in that specific dicastery. Many people write to the nuncio or at least copy him in when they write to complain.
Email addresses for the pope are generally used for birthday greetings, special celebratory congratulations, etc. and are collected by his secretaries to let him know about them.
Most sensible people work up the chain of command – if you have a problem with something going on in the diocese, writing to the bishop is the first step. Often it is surprising that they will go out of their way to address the complaint or at least acknowledge your concerns.
If results or response is not what you expect, then the next step would be to the nuncio or to Rome.
Frankly I believe you are a bit off base with your comments on this one: almost every bishop has an office whether its a “secretary”, “media relations”, “ombudsman” or whatever, to handle complaint calls. The bishops simply cannot spend all day every day talking to every individual member of the church or non-member of the church who wishes to lodge a complaint.
Normally when conmplaints come in, they are sent to whatever office the bishop has directed to handle them – depending on what the complaint is they are redirected to Liturgy, Vicar General, Prison Ministry etc. for handling. That individual ministry or office is to take appropriate action within the realm of their jurisdiction and advise the bishop of what action was or is being taken.
The same goes for the pope, whether or not you have an email address for the pope, you cannot seriously believe that the pope spends all day at his email center reading the mail. Most of the emails would be referred to the proper dicastery for handling and so one might do well to send them there in the first place.
Rome usually works better with snail mail at this point addressed to one of the authorities in that specific dicastery. Many people write to the nuncio or at least copy him in when they write to complain.
Email addresses for the pope are generally used for birthday greetings, special celebratory congratulations, etc. and are collected by his secretaries to let him know about them.
Most sensible people work up the chain of command – if you have a problem with something going on in the diocese, writing to the bishop is the first step. Often it is surprising that they will go out of their way to address the complaint or at least acknowledge your concerns.
If results or response is not what you expect, then the next step would be to the nuncio or to Rome.
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