Cardinal O'Brien apologises over his behaviour [CNAU]

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It’s really sad to see someone of his stature doing something like that. I always looked up to the cardinals as role models. This is all discouraging.
 
For me, I just can’t understand how he could betray Jesus! For that is what it is. It’s a betrayal of everything that Jesus has done for him. Everything that Jesus suffered. How could he do that?

May god forgive him of these terrible sins
 
For me, I just can’t understand how he could betray Jesus! For that is what it is. It’s a betrayal of everything that Jesus has done for him. Everything that Jesus suffered. How could he do that?

May god forgive him of these terrible sins
Don’t we all betray Jesus?
 
Robert you are plain wrong with some of what you want people to follow. People such as this cardinal and other like him whether religeous or not are serial offenders and should have been removed long ago. These things would have been known to some in the Church with the ability to act or speak, yet nothing was done. These people are not deserving of your support. They re deserving of nothing but ridicule and much more than that.
 
What consequences will O’Brien face since he violated his vows. Will he be defrocked? He made a very galling statement, IMHO that he would now, “Retire”. How nice and peaceful and without consequences for his actions. Doesn’t he have to account to his religious order?
What is his title? Should he be called Mr. O’Brien? Father? Cardinal?
 
For me, I just can’t understand how he could betray Jesus! For that is what it is. It’s a betrayal of everything that Jesus has done for him. Everything that Jesus suffered. How could he do that?

May god forgive him of these terrible sins
Saint Peter betrayed Jesus,so did Judas,All the Apostles ran away when the going got tough They had walked the walk with Jesus for three years, We cannot tell how we will behave in any situation until it arises. Itis hard when someone we know and admire proves to be made of clay. Prayer is the only remedy,not condemnation.
 
Saint Peter betrayed Jesus,so did Judas,All the Apostles ran away when the going got tough They had walked the walk with Jesus for three years, We cannot tell how we will behave in any situation until it arises. Itis hard when someone we know and admire proves to be made of clay. Prayer is the only remedy,not condemnation.
This was a different type of betrayal.
 
This was a different type of betrayal.
Though it is a different kind of betrayal, the Cardinal is still human, still subject to our failings, and should still be welcomed as any of us other fallen humans are welcomed. We should pray for him, and hope that he experiences true repentance, so that he may begin to make amends to God.
 
Though it is a different kind of betrayal, the Cardinal is still human, still subject to our failings, and should still be welcomed as any of us other fallen humans are welcomed. We should pray for him, and hope that he experiences true repentance, so that he may begin to make amends to God.
I agree 100%
 
By all means pray for the man and ourselves naturally enough that we all may be helped, but church governance requires that people like the cardinal be removed and defrocked etc. This is exactly why we have a major sex offender problem in the Church. Now I would expect the same outcome for a priest who regularly tried to engage in sexual relations with nuns or other women.

Its just that homosexuals are a much greater danger to the Church. We can no longer argue/debate with non Catholics/christians about many things because child abuse has been so prolific in the Church that outcomes are hard to achieve.

We are all sinners, but major continuously repetitive serious offences/sins from clergy need to be severely punished because of the injury to others.
 
These things would have been known to some in the Church with the ability to act or speak, yet nothing was done.
Clergy at the local level are usually removed from public ministry while such claims are investigated. This raises the obvious question as to what accounts for the difference in response from leadership. The gathering of the Cardinals in Rome would be a good opportunity for some dialogue regarding this issue. A good starting point would be what’s been come to be referred to as the Watergate question: “Who knew what and when?” I realize they’re there to elect a new Pope but part of that process is discerning the leadership qualities needed by the Church in this time.
 
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