Cases For Sainthood

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The one I’m most excited about is Blessed Pope Pius IX. Obviously the reason above all others that Pio Nono should be made a Saint, is his personal holiness, but I can’t hide the fact if he were made a Saint, I’d be thoroughly delighted with the message it would send to the world.
 
Seamus_L said:
The one I’m most excited about is Blessed Pope Pius IX. Obviously the reason above all others that Pio Nono should be made a Saint, is his personal holiness, but I can’t hide the fact if he were made a Saint, I’d be thoroughly delighted with the message it would send to the world.
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Bl. Pius IX’s pontificate is a great example of an awakening and turn around, that one can only wish more pontiffs had more fully appreciated the significance and lessons of. 😃
 
Seamus_L said:
The one I’m most excited about is Blessed Pope Pius IX. Obviously the reason above all others that Pio Nono should be made a Saint, is his personal holiness, but I can’t hide the fact if he were made a Saint, I’d be thoroughly delighted with the message it would send to the world.
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to me the same can be said for venerable Pope Pius XII
 
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Bl. Pius IX’s pontificate is a great example of an awakening and turn around, that one can only wish more pontiffs had more fully appreciated the significance and lessons of. 😃
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My question is why has Leo XIII never even been considered? Read his life and works. He writes with a fatherly love, but a stern force to every word. He wrote the St. Michael prayer! He was much beloved by those in the Church in his own day, but it seems like he was all but forgotten by our time. His writings still have quite a bit of relevance to the current situation in the world and the Church today and are well worth a look. Why his cause has never been considered is beyond me.

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I’d like to see Ven. Pius XII raised to the altar. I would also like to see the cause of Fr. William J. Doyle, SJ – the heroic “Trench Priest” of World War I – jump-started.
 
edward_george said:
My question is why has Leo XIII never even been considered? Read his life and works. He writes with a fatherly love, but a stern force to every word. He wrote the St. Michael prayer! He was much beloved by those in the Church in his own day, but it seems like he was all but forgotten by our time. His writings still have quite a bit of relevance to the current situation in the world and the Church today and are well worth a look. Why his cause has never been considered is beyond me.

-ACEGC
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you make such a good point. He had quite a good legacy. He was pope for a long period of time, wrote the St. Michael prayer as you mentioned, encyclicals like Providentissimus Deus and Rerum Novarum are brilliant. Has any miracles been associated with Pope Leo XIII??
 
Blessed Pius IX, together with Leo XIII fought hard for the earthly rule of the papacy. Only Pius XI gave up this fight, and turned over that the Church can live without it.

Since we are limited human beings, the concentration of one aspect of the life means the abandonment of other aspects. During the reign of Blessed Pius IX and Leo XIII the Church lost her leadership over the media.
 
I’ve seen articles in which it has been said that if Pius IX is declared to be a Saint, that it will be a disaster for ecumenical relations. I see it however as a clear message to the world that Papal Infallibility is a non-negotiable teaching of the Universal Church.
 
Seamus_L said:
I’ve seen articles in which it has been said that if Pius IX is declared to be a Saint, that it will be a disaster for ecumenical relations. I see it however as a clear message to the world that Papal Infallibility is a non-negotiable teaching of the Universal Church.
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It is non-negotiable, but its form can be adapted to a conciliar approach. Pope Pius XII, for example, did ask the Catholic bishops of the world about the dogma of the Assumption before he proclaimed it.

The Church is infallible so is too the Pope in union with the bishops of the world and the Pope himself. The Pope reflects the mind of the Church which is the Body of Christ. A proclamation of an infallible dogma is serious business. As one Redemptorist studying this issue in seminary indicated to me, the best way to express papal infallibility is when a Pope ratifies the decisions of an Ecumenical Council.

Alex
 
Pope Liberius is said to have been the first pope not to be sainted in the West - and why is that?

He is a full Saint in the East . . .

Alex
 
I have to say there are many who deserve their cases to be taken to the Vatican, one who I would like to see, is of a Dominican Friar who was called the “Hero Priest” of the Ohio State Prison in Easter Monday Fire of 1930. After my Godmother (best-friend and former roommate) did her research on the prison fire (I helped to research it as well) and died three years after the fire. His name is Fr. Albert O’Brien, OP. He has a great story and I would love to see a good Saint for those that are prison-workers, prisoners, and prison champlains.

But that is my opinion on the matter. Many Blessings and prayers to all,
Nikita
 
Of course, one factor in the forward thrust of a cause for sainthood that can’t be ignored is this: there are COSTS associated with research, investigation, etc., and these costs cannot be negligible. Some causes for sainthood may well be stalled for lack of resources.
 
I was surprised to read recently that there has been some opposition from American Indian groups to the case for Sainthood for Blessed Junipero Serra.
 
Seamus_L said:
The one I’m most excited about is Blessed Pope Pius IX. Obviously the reason above all others that Pio Nono should be made a Saint, is his personal holiness, but I can’t hide the fact if he were made a Saint, I’d be thoroughly delighted with the message it would send to the world.
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That would be great. He was a lovely man. And Mother Teresa too. I will honestly throw a party if that wonderful woman is canonized in my lifetime, which I deeply believe she will be.
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I was surprised to read recently that there has been some opposition from American Indian groups to the case for Sainthood for Blessed Junipero Serra.
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Why has there been opposition?
 
Blessed Junipero Serra made statements to the effect that the Indians of California sometimes needed to be beaten like little children, and he supported there being required to live in Spanish settlements.
 
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