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I was looking at the Archdiocese of Indianapolis’ website and it appears if the Metropolitan Archbishop is wearing the traditional cassock, which I’m not against at all. Could someone please confirm this. Here is the link archindy.org/archbishop/index.html
 
It is common to see bishops dressed this way, especially in official pictures. It is less common to see priests in cassocks, though in some dioceses it is more frequent.
 
Yes, most bishops where the Cassock, however, H.H. Paul VI issued a Motu Proprio simplifying cassocks to not include the buttons on the cuff and the upper arm “tubing”.
 
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Yes, most bishops where the Cassock, however, H.H. Paul VI issued a Motu Proprio simplifying cassocks to not include the buttons on the cuff and the upper arm “tubing”.
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He did!? Why are they still made…? :confused:
Are you sure that motu proprio did that?
 
Techinically what he is wearing is NOT a cassock, but a simarra or soutane.

The oversleeves give it away.

A bishop’s choir cassock would not have the oversleeves or extra buttons.
 
Cassocks are frequently confused with the simar, but there is a distinction in that the simar has the small shoulder cape without buttons and does not fasten in the front. In previous times, cassocks also had buttons on the upper parts of the sleeves, thus providing another differentiation from the simar, but Paul VI dropped this custom, leaving the Cassock and Simar virtually identical, save for the small shoulder cape with the latter.
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In English, Soutane is the same as a cassock, however originally they were two different types. The long clerical robe that priests used to wear and some still do is now called a cassock or soutane. In other European countries, it is not called a cassock but a soutane.

Germany: Talar or Sutane
France: Soutanne
Poland: Sutanna
Italy: Talar

The point is, the cassock is really the Anglican version of the Roman Soutane. Technically, cassocks are double breasted and are Anglican, while Soutanes are single-breasted and Roman Catholic. But, I guess Soutane sounded to French, and so we started calling them cassocks. However, there is a distinction, but we interchange cassock and soutane since cassock I guess sounds more English. A soutane and simar is different also, which you guys were talking about. But, I just wanted to let people know that technically a cassock is anglican, and a soutane (which we should be calling it) is Roman Catholic. But, the term cassock is now accepted, and we all know what we’re talking about.

According to an Anglican book, this was published in the late 19th century, the bishop (author) explained that an Anglican cassock had no buttons and was double breasted, while a Roman Catholic soutane (and he said this with a little disdain in the book) has traditionally 33 buttons and is single-breasted.

Here’s a link on google books, its on page 118:

books.google.com/books?id=w1IQAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA118&dq=Anglican+cassock+double-breasted+no+buttons+soutane

I say, we start calling them Soutanes again! Cassocks are for Anglicans!
 
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