Given the negative nature of many of the SSPX-sympathetic sites as well as the quotes from Fellay and Williamson, it is easy to accept negative commentary toward the SSPX as legitimate.
One might as easily ask why there is always such a sympathetic leap to the defence of those who defy the Church.
So you accept negative articles at face value, but automatically dismiss the positive articles? This article wasn’t even from an “SSPX-sympathetic” site, nor did it say anything negative about Rome. It’s from a reporter for an Italian newspaper, and it’s also been covered by Fr. Z, who is not an uncredible SSPX-sympathizer by any stretch of the imagination.
One might ask that, but one would be changing the subject from explaining why they happily accept negative information from random blogs, but automatically dismiss positive information.
Probably because that’s what they’ve been trained to expect, disobedience heaped upon disobedience, defiance upon defiance.
Huh? The question was why negative information is taken at face value, but any positive news is discarded. Hardly sounds like the attitude of someone that’s interested in reconciliation.
I’m speaking to your question of “Why is everyone willing to believe the worst?”
Fair enough. I guess they can believe the bad news unquestioningly but ignore and discard any good news, if it really makes them happy.
It goes back to what I mention before: I can be VERY happy if the SSPX returns in proper obedience to the Holy See. I’d be VERY happy if my Baptist family converted. I would be less happy if the Holy See “gave in” to a list of demands, by either group. In other words, the Church must WANT them, but She will never NEED them.
Not at all. I am equally sceptical of all anonymous reports. However, most of what has been discussed here that reflect negatively on the SSPX have been statements from Fellay and WIlliamson, with date, time and place of statements, often on pro-SSPX sites. In these Fellay showed a very different side than this report shows. If both are true, would you consider Fellay a liar, or assume all his bluster was for show? I would prefer to wait before I assume the worst about Fellay. In this since my scepticism is assuming the best about the SSPX.
One could also ask why, despite the obvious desire of Pope BXVI to bring them back in full communion, the negative small talk continues when the topic arises.
I would like to clarify that my scepticism had to do with this report only. I have nothing but the highest hope and desire that the situation with the SSPX could be normalized. I just do not consider reports like the OP actual news or newsowrthy until something really happens, like Rome says the response had been received, or accepted, or whatever. Unnamed sources usually are unnamed for a reason.
Pro Vobis you have just no clue as to what you are talking about. If any valid Pope tells a priest or bishop “you can’t say the old mass unless you have my permission…” then you must obey. THE POPE IS THE BOSS!!! VATICAN I TEACHES THIS!!! The Pope must be obeyed not only in matters of faith and morals, but also in matters of discipline!!! Even though the old mass wasnt abrogated, the Pope can and did tell the Archbishop not to say it. The Archbishop has to obey. He can schedule a meeting and protest and state his opinion, but he cant disobey. UNDERSTAND THAT!!! YOU GIVE ME CHEST PAINS EVERYTIME I READ YOUR POSTS!!!
Then do you have any other suggestions for disseminating such information? You seem to have no problem with accepting any kind of liturgical abuse and anything regarding the validity of mistranslations and other things so why the hangup here?Am I the only scpetic in the bunch? Everytime I hear information leaked through unnamed sources I have to question why anyone gives credence to such articles.
You sure jumped topics. You also assumed an aweful lot about me that I have not commented on. Your assumptions, based on speculation, are dead wrong about me. I do have problems with any abuse and am too much of a literalist to tolerate mistranslation. I do not understand your point or why you are speculating on what I believe. Perhaps you have me confused with another poster?
Except that only a fraction of those actually defy Rome. Most are like you and me, God-fearing and looking for the truth.
We’re getting way off topic here, but…
