Catch 22 (preferably guys only)

[NeedHelp111]

I do not want to make anyone sin, therefore if you are struggling with impurity etc. I strongly suggest you not scroll down

I have been worried that wearing ‘tight clothing’ is a sin because it can lead to a sin. Without too much info, I am referring to underwear. For me, wearing this particular underwear is more uncomfortable than tight. I bought some new ones but they seemed to do more harm than good as they lead me to sin right away.

I feel as if I am in a catch 22 position. Is wearing this uncomfortable underwear a sin? It has never lead me to sin. How am I meant to have a firm purpose of amendment if it is?

Strange question, I know. But I’m desperate for some help. Maybe it’s just my scruples playing up?

 

[Debora123]

Could you please clarify? I have no idea what you are talking about…

 

[austenbosten]

So the tight underwear is causing you to get a rise…well here’s what the CCC says:

Offenses against chastity

**2351 **Lust is disordered desire for or inordinate enjoyment of sexual pleasure. Sexual pleasure is morally disordered when sought for itself, isolated from its procreative and unitive purposes. (2528)

**2352 **By masturbation is to be understood the deliberate stimulation of the genital organs in order to derive sexual pleasure. “Both the Magisterium of the Church, in the course of a constant tradition, and the moral sense of the faithful have been in no doubt and have firmly maintained that masturbation is an intrinsically and gravely disordered action.”138 “The deliberate use of the sexual faculty, for whatever reason, outside of marriage is essentially contrary to its purpose.” For here sexual pleasure is sought outside of “the sexual relationship which is demanded by the moral order and in which the total meaning of mutual self-giving and human procreation in the context of true love is achieved.”139 (1735)

To form an equitable judgment about the subjects’ moral responsibility and to guide pastoral action, one must take into account the affective immaturity, force of acquired habit, conditions of anxiety, or other psychological or social factors that can lessen, if not even reduce to a minimum, moral culpability.

**2353 **Fornication is carnal union between an unmarried man and an unmarried woman. It is gravely contrary to the dignity of persons and of human sexuality which is naturally ordered to the good of spouses and the generation and education of children. Moreover, it is a grave scandal when there is corruption of the young.

**2354 **Pornography consists in removing real or simulated sexual acts from the intimacy of the partners, in order to display them deliberately to third parties. It offends against chastity because it perverts the conjugal act, the intimate giving of spouses to each other. It does grave injury to the dignity of its participants (actors, vendors, the public), since each one becomes an object of base pleasure and illicit profit for others. It immerses all who are involved in the illusion of a fantasy world. It is a grave offense. Civil authorities should prevent the production and distribution of pornographic materials. (2523)

**2355 **Prostitution does injury to the dignity of the person who engages in it, reducing the person to an instrument of sexual pleasure. The one who pays sins gravely against himself: he violates the chastity to which his Baptism pledged him and defiles his body, the temple of the Holy Spirit.140 Prostitution is a social scourge. It usually involves women, but also men, children, and adolescents (The latter two cases involve the added sin of scandal.). While it is always gravely sinful to engage in prostitution, the imputability of the offense can be attenuated by destitution, blackmail, or social pressure. (1735)

**2356 **Rape is the forcible violation of the sexual intimacy of another person. It does injury to justice and charity. Rape deeply wounds the respect, freedom, and physical and moral integrity to which every person has a right. It causes grave damage that can mark the victim for life. It is always an intrinsically evil act. Graver still is the rape of children committed by parents (incest) or those responsible for the education of the children entrusted to them. (2297, 1756, 2388)

If you aren’t lusting, fornicating or masturbating…and it doesn’t lead you to viewing porn, prostitution or raping…then there is no sin.

However, since you had to post a question on CAF, perhaps it would be in your best interest to just go out and buy bigger underwear. BTW your underwear should be comfortable.

 

[Armor_of_Light]

Im a guy and I know what you are talking about.

Going commando will not work for you?

Or…try the tighty whiteys. I know they are lame, but never cause ‘problems’…

 

[shipwrkd]

Could you please clarify? I have no idea what you are talking about…

Yup, Deb’s right. My question would be why would anyone want to wear tight uncomfortable underwear? Are you talking physically uncomfortable or psychologically uncomfortable.

 

[NeedHelp111]

So the tight underwear is causing you to get a rise…well here’s what the CCC says:

If you aren’t lusting, fornicating or masturbating…and it doesn’t lead you to viewing porn, prostitution or raping…then there is no sin.

However, since you had to post a question on CAF, perhaps it would be in your best interest to just go out and buy bigger underwear. BTW your underwear should be comfortable.

By wearing these ones I actually have not sinned. Just sometimes they get uncomfortable so I’m worried it may lead to sin.

I’ve tried buying bigger ones but they just made the situation worse and actually made me sin.

Is it better to go with what I’m comfortable in, regardless of whether they are uncomfortable sometimes? My intention is not to sin, but is this an ocassion of sin at all?

 

[austenbosten]

Well if you have a strong overwhelming desire to sin every time “that happens” then you need prayer, Eucharist, archangel Michael and the Holy Spirit…not new undies. It’s a part of life that those moments will happen.

 

[Armor_of_Light]

Well if you have a strong overwhelming desire to sin every time “that happens” then you need prayer, Eucharist, archangel Michael and the Holy Spirit…not new undies. It’s a part of life that those moments will happen.

For ever

…and ever

…and ever

I don’t understand how anyone needs viagra.

 

[shipwrkd]

Well if you have a strong overwhelming desire to sin every time “that happens” then you need prayer, Eucharist, archangel Michael and the Holy Spirit…not new undies. It’s a part of life that those moments will happen.

:thumbsup:What austenbosten said and wear what is comfortable. May as well learn to control those desires because they get worse before they get better.

 

[NeedHelp111]

For ever

…and ever

…and ever

I don’t understand how anyone needs viagra.

Haha. I think I’m being over scrupulous about the whole matter. It’s not my intention to sin after all. I’ve done my best and tried buying new ones, but I think just for now I will stick to what I’m most comfortable with. Maybe later on down the track my mind will allow me to wear the new ones without getting ‘uncomfortable’ in them.

I was going to confess this as a mortal sin, however I realise now that I did my best and did not give consent.

 

[NeedHelp111]

:thumbsup:What austenbosten said and wear what is comfortable. May as well learn to control those desires because they get worse before they get better.

When you say comfortable, do you mean physically or mentally?

 

[BettyBoop416]

When I read “guys only,” of course, I had to look.

Regarding the subject of your post, to quote Elaine Benes of Seinfeld fame, “I don’t know how you guys walk around with those things.”

 

[CatholicFireman]

When I read “guys only,” of course, I had to look.

Regarding the subject of your post, to quote Elaine Benes of Seinfeld fame, “I don’t know how you guys walk around with those things.”

Apparently, Kramer doesn’t anymore.

 

[shipwrkd]

When you say comfortable, do you mean physically or mentally?

Yes…

 

[NeedHelp111]

One more question vaguely related to this.

If I wake up in bed with ‘morning wood’, is it sinful for me to go back to sleep without going to the toilet first? The reason being it might lead to me having impure dreams.

 

[Armor_of_Light]

One more question vaguely related to this.

If I wake up in bed with ‘morning wood’, is it sinful for me to go back to sleep without going to the toilet first? The reason being it might lead to me having impure dreams.

??

Chill…Go back to sleep.
But, I have found that you sleep better if you bite the bullet and go potty.

People with kids say things like ‘go potty’.

 

[austenbosten]

??

Chill…Go back to sleep.
But, I have found that you sleep better if you bite the bullet and go potty.

People with kids say things like ‘go potty’.

I agree dude, NeedHelp111 you really need to just chill. You’re giving a whole new meaning to the word “Catholic guilt”.

You aren’t Jesus. you aren’t perfect, you never will be perfect. So stop fretting over everything being a sin. If you want to know what a sin is, look up the Cathechism otherwise just pray and take it easy man, if you sin…guess what? YOU HAVE CONFESSION!!!

I don’t

…you know what else?

YOU HAVE THE EUCHARIST!!!

I don’t

So take gratitude in that fact. If you fall, God will forgive you and through prayer and GRACE through the Sacraments, you shall overcome. I don’t have the Sacraments yet, and you don’t see me stressing over all my past mortal sins.