Catechising in the Gregorian Mass

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Given that the Liturgy is the place par excelence for learning about the Faith, perhaps someone can answer a question that recently came to me while at a Gregorian Mass. From what I understand the Mass was, at a certain period, intirely in Latin, readings included . At a time when most people where illiterate and did not know Latin, how were they instructed by the Word at Mass? They couldn’t understand what was being read, so there had to be some other way for them to be instructed, no?

In the Byzantine rite(s), was/is there also an insistency on maintaining a liturgical language? I ask because from what I’ve heard Byzantines tend to not have much catechising outside of the Divine Liturgy because it is very rich in catechesis.

Thank in advance
 
Given that the Liturgy is the place par excelence for learning about the Faith, perhaps someone can answer a question that recently came to me while at a Gregorian Mass. From what I understand the Mass was, at a certain period, intirely in Latin, readings included . At a time when most people where illiterate and did not know Latin, how were they instructed by the Word at Mass? They couldn’t understand what was being read, so there had to be some other way for them to be instructed, no?

In the Byzantine rite(s), was/is there also an insistency on maintaining a liturgical language? I ask because from what I’ve heard Byzantines tend to not have much catechising outside of the Divine Liturgy because it is very rich in catechesis.

Thank in advance
If you mean the Tridentine Mass in Latin, we always have rubrics with the Latin on one side and English on the other… so were the Missals and all… Also, the Gospel and Readings are read in both Latin and English, while the Homily is given only in English. People were later taught Latin in school. Personally, I think that it would be like learning the Novus Ordo, after hearing it for so long, you at least had some idea of what everything meant… and really I don’t even have to know what everyone is saying at Mass so long as I look deeper into the Mass and just observe the beauty… at Vatican II they wanted the Mass to be allowed in the vernacular during more parts of the Mass in those places that you are describing, where people do not understand the Latin and they cannot read and there is a lack of money to buy missals and a lack of money to teach the people to read and a lack of time to teach them Latin or whatever.
“3. These norms being observed, it is for the competent territorial ecclesiastical authority mentioned in Art. 22, 2, to decide whether, and to what extent, the vernacular language is to be used; their decrees are to be approved, that is, confirmed, by the Apostolic See. And, whenever it seems to be called for, this authority is to consult with bishops of neighboring regions which have the same language.” -SACROSANCTUM, CONCILIUM
Also, I wonder if the use of Latin is at all like the use of Latin when St. Jerome translated the Bible… at the time, many people spoke Latin, so it made sense for the Bible to be translated into Latin. Also, it was expensive to make Bibles, so it would be very costly to make many Bibles in many languages for many people because it took so long for the monks to write the Bible and it was then expensive because there were so few Bibles available. Perhaps at the time, most people understood the Mass in Latin… and the Holy See perhaps later on feared trying to translate the Mass into the vernacular out of fear that the beauty of the prayers might be lost in the translation (as is the case in America for the Novus Ordo, which is why the Bishops are changing some of the wording at Mass currently.
 
Yes, I am talking about the TLM. I attend one every Sunday when I get the chance. Sorry, perhaps I should have been a bit more specific. I am refering to the Middle Ages. Obviously people did not own missals back then, and most assuredly they extant ones were not bilingual. So, the question still stands: how was it done?
 
Prior to hand missals for the laity, and widespread literacy there were two methods. One as continues today was to have the mass “suspended” after the Gospel was read in Latin. Then the priest read the Epistle and Gospel in the language of the people from the pulpit, and preach a sermon. After the sermon, the Mass was resumed, either with the Credo, or on days the Credo was not said, by the Offretory verse.

In some places, the Sermon and reading of the Gospel and Epistle of the Feast or Sunday was done at a later time, People would attend Mass in the morning, after Mass go out and eat, (remember they had fasted from midnight. Then later return to the Church, (You can still find outdoor pulpits in some places, the people would return sitting outside, and hear the sermon, and readings from the Mass of the day), in most places they then sang Vespers in the Church, on Sundays and Solemn Feasts.
 
Prior to hand missals for the laity, and widespread literacy there were two methods. One as continues today was to have the mass “suspended” after the Gospel was read in Latin. Then the priest read the Epistle and Gospel in the language of the people from the pulpit, and preach a sermon. After the sermon, the Mass was resumed, either with the Credo, or on days the Credo was not said, by the Offretory verse.

In some places, the Sermon and reading of the Gospel and Epistle of the Feast or Sunday was done at a later time, People would attend Mass in the morning, after Mass go out and eat, (remember they had fasted from midnight. Then later return to the Church, (You can still find outdoor pulpits in some places, the people would return sitting outside, and hear the sermon, and readings from the Mass of the day), in most places they then sang Vespers in the Church, on Sundays and Solemn Feasts.
Ah, so the readings would be done again in the vernacular. I was unaware of this practice. Not that I’m doubting you, but do you have any sources so that I might read up on this?
 
Ah, so the readings would be done again in the vernacular. I was unaware of this practice. Not that I’m doubting you, but do you have any sources so that I might read up on this?
That’s the way it is done everywhere today. At a daily Low Mass there is usually no sermon; but when there is a sermon the Gospel and Epistle are alwasy re-read in the vernacular.

I’ve been listening to a six part talk given to the nuns at EWTN by Fr. Calvin Goodwin of the FSSP. I wish these were available online because he answers this question very well - and he does so in many ways scattered throughout the talks.

In one place, he explians it from his personal experience from when he was a child before Vatican II. In another place he explains it from, believe it or not, the perspective of a Lutheran liturgist. The quote from the Lutheran liturgist was actually very interesting. The liturgist begins by conceeding that they have had many misconceptions about how the Catholics understood the Masss during the middle ages (in other words, the Lutherans always thought and claimed that the Catholics did not know what was happening during the Mass - which he says was not at all the case). He explains how and why he knows these misunderstandings are not accurate, and then explains the different types of “vernacular” - meaning, not just vernacular in speach, but other forms of “vernacular” (that I personally had never thought of).

From personal experience, Fr. Goodwin explains how he was catechised, on one level, by the reverence of his parents and those around him during Mass. He says that after communion his parents were always engaged in deep prayers. At any other time, he was the center of their attention, but after communion it was different. They were focused on something else, and he was well aware of it. He said that little things such as this made a lasting impression on him. He gives similar examples of how he was catechised by these forms of “vernacular” that were present at the Mass, and explains the deep and lasting impression that they had on him.

He also explained something else that I myself have experienced on one level. He explained how the theological virtue of faith provides a certain implicit understanding in the heart. A child with the faith (that was received at baptism) may not be able to explain the doctrinal formulations, but they know them in one sense implicitly through the faith. Later (such as in catechism class when they begin school) the doctrinal formulations confirm what they knew to be true in their heart. He explained how the reverence at the Mass, and the focus on God in the Eucharist, confirms what the child knows in their heart, even before the doctrinal formulas are explained.

So with that being said, I would answer the question posed by the O/P this way: First we must remember that the place where a Catholic learns their catechism (questions and answers, etc.) is at home and at school. The Mass will provide additional instruction explicitly during the sermon, and (even more importantly) reinforce these doctrinal teachings implicitly by the entire liturgy and general atmosphere reflecting the spirit of Catholicism, and thereby confirms what the person knows to be true in their heart - both before and after the doctrinal formulations are learned. And if you think about it, the latter is at least as important as the former if not more so. If a person is taught that the Eucharist is God; yet at Mass see is treated as ordinary bread, such irreverent treatment by the Priest and faithful will make the greatest impression in a child and end by undermining what he is taught in the catechism. On the contrary, if the child sees great devotion and reverence displayed toward the Eucharist, and their parents in deep prayer after communion, this too will make a deep and lasting impression even before they have a complete understanding of the doctrinal teachings.
 
Many thanks. Hopefully EWTN will one day provide that program you mentioned on-line. I know I would be interested in listening to it. As an aside, at the Gregorian Mass I attend the reading is always only in the vernacular (this case, Portuguese). As to why, I cannot say.
 
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