YES!Is the catechism a document that should be looked at so much in modern times since John Paul 2 now has been replaced by Benedict? I know a lot of papal documents are good but some are of different ranks.
Bill
Where does the Catechism say that a Priest and reconciliation are not needed? All it says about masterbation is that it is always grave matter. Whether the other two conditions of a mortal sin are met are not determined by the Catechism but by the Catholic and if you determine the other two requirements are met, you need to go to confession. If you are not sure, you need to consult your Priest. Sorry Bill, I am really lost about the issue you are really having.Well this is the way I feel about the catechism. Say use this for an example. The catechism says that masterbation is a grave matter and meets all the requirements of mortal sin. I’m not arguing with that. But here’s the thing. Someone is having problems somewhere and we aren’t perfect like god. This is more complicated a situation then the catechism is leding us to believe. I really do think that needs a priest’s touch. There are a lot of things that god views that we don’t culpability for one thing and just to say this is wrong and that is wrong and so on without saying the “whys and wheres” just isn’t right. I really think a priest should be involved. And definately some reconciliation.
Bill
I have never read the catechism though I’ve heard much about it. I am myself in a position right now that I no longer feel grace. I’m not quite sure what I’ve done. So I am staying away from the eucharist and will go to confession when I get the chance. I just might read it after all. Maybe I am judging unfairly.Where does the Catechism say that a Priest and reconciliation are not needed? All it says about masterbation is that it is always grave matter. Whether the other two conditions of a mortal sin are met are not determined by the Catechism but by the Catholic and if you determine the other two requirements are met, you need to go to confession. If you are not sure, you need to consult your Priest. Sorry Bill, I am really lost about the issue you are really having.
How are you going to know what the Church actually teaches unless you read the CCC. It contains the Church teachings (both infallible and non-infallible), and disciplines ALL of which bind Catholics, and the footnotes reference Scripture and other Church documents that underpin the teachings.I have never read the catechism though I’ve heard much about it. I am myself in a position right now that I no longer feel grace. I’m not quite sure what I’ve done. So I am staying away from the eucharist and will go to confession when I get the chance. I just might read it after all. Maybe I am judging unfairly.
Bill
From your post #5 you need to read the CCC. What you think you know in that post is wrong.I basically go by what the parrish’s religious education coordinator (now retired) says and what she taught in RCIA. I also ask alot of questions.
Bill
Ok does the catechism say that saying four letter words **** is a sin. I know saying christ’s name in vain is a sin. There are so many rules and Jesus came to free us from the law.Bill - the Catechism is a fairly heavy duty book that is a worthwhile read, however if you are newer to the faith you may benefit more by starting out with the Compendium of the Catechism. It is a simplified “question and answer” version available for free on the Vatican website. Give it a look here:
vatican.va/archive/compendium_ccc/documents/archive_2005_compendium-ccc_en.html
That would be impractical because almost every four letter word in the English language is not a swear word.Ok does the catechism say that saying four letter words **** is a sin. I know saying christ’s name in vain is a sin. There are so many rules and Jesus came to free us from the law.
Bill
I assume you are referring to cuss words when you say “4-letter words”. I wouldn’t expect the Catechism to say they were sinful, because they really aren’t. Think about it. Just saying the word aloud isn’t sinful. It would be in your intent when you use them. Perhaps if you are using them to uncharitably describe someone, they could be considered sinful, but so would replacing the cuss word with one we didn’t associate with being a “4 letter word”.Ok does the catechism say that saying four letter words **** is a sin. I know saying christ’s name in vain is a sin. There are so many rules and Jesus came to free us from the law.
Bill
The Catechism is a collection of infallible teachings of the Church but not every word is infallible. Who decides? Christ’s Church decides via it’s teaching magisterium by virtue of the authority He gave it.How is the catechism both fallible and infallible ? What decides which is which?
It depends on the situation. For example, banging your thumb with a hammer followed spontaneously by a four letter word is not a sin. Willfully calling your father a four letter word because he disagrees with your life choice is.Ok does the catechism say that saying four letter words **** is a sin. I know saying christ’s name in vain is a sin. There are so many rules and Jesus came to free us from the law.
Bill
The CCC is neither infallible nor non-infallible but rather it contains a summary of infallible and non-infallible teachings.How is the catechism both fallible and infallible ? What decides which is which?