Cathechumens question

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As a cradle Catholic, I would like to know when Cathecumens (sp?) during their course of RCIA studies receive their first Sacrament of Reconciliation/Confession?
 
As a member of the Elect now it is my understanding that I will be going to confession as needed after I get baptized. Since the baptism wipes us clean of sin, once we are confirmed Catholic we must live the life (or try as best we can) and I believe from the Easter Vigil on I’ll have to readily and repeatedly avail myself to confession to keep myself in God’s grace.
 
grasscutter said:
As a cradle Catholic, I would like to know when Cathecumens (sp?) during their course of RCIA studies receive their first Sacrament of Reconciliation/Confession?
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Catechumens are people seeking baptism. Baptism wipes away all our sins, so they don’t need confession before baptism. And since they’re not baptized, they can’t participate in other sacraments anyway.

Candidates – those who are already baptized – go to confession shortly before their confirmation and First Communion.
 
I’m currently attending RCIA classes and I don’t think that catachumens need the sacrement of reconciliation as baptism cleanses one of all sin.
 
I have not been baptized. I will receive Baptism, Confirmation, and Eucharist on Easter Vigil. After that, I will have to attend confession as needed (hopefully it won’t be that often!!)
 
Okay! Thank you so much for your responses! Correct me if I’m wrong, a candidate, whether previously baptized or not, will then be eligible to receive the sacrament of reconciliation after the Easter vigil.
 
grasscutter said:
Okay! Thank you so much for your responses! Correct me if I’m wrong, a candidate, whether previously baptized or not, will then be eligible to receive the sacrament of reconciliation after the Easter vigil.
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Candidates receive Reconciliation before the Easter Vigil. Of course, they should receive it afterwards as well, whenever needed, just like all Catholics.

Candidates are already baptized, so any mortal sins committed since Baptism must be confessed before reception of the Eucharist and Confirmation on Easter Vigil. All must be in a state of grace before reception of the Sacraments.

Catechumens will be baptized at the Easter Vigil, which washes away all sins, thus, they do not need to Confess beforehand.

I (a candidate) had my first Confession the Saturday before Holy Week and the Easter Vigil (so, the Saturday before Palm Sunday). We had an all day “retreat” type thing to prepare for our upcoming initiation, and when it was over, all of the Candidates went and had first Confession. I think most RCIA programs do something similar, an organized first Confession time for the candidates.
 
anp1215 said:
Candidates receive Reconciliation before the Easter Vigil. Of course, they should receive it afterwards as well, whenever needed, just like all Catholics.

Candidates are already baptized, so any mortal sins committed since Baptism must be confessed before reception of the Eucharist and Confirmation on Easter Vigil. All must be in a state of grace before reception of the Sacraments.

Catechumens will be baptized at the Easter Vigil, which washes away all sins, thus, they do not need to Confess beforehand.

I (a candidate) had my first Confession the Saturday before Holy Week and the Easter Vigil (so, the Saturday before Palm Sunday). We had an all day “retreat” type thing to prepare for our upcoming initiation, and when it was over, all of the Candidates went and had first Confession. I think most RCIA programs do something similar, an organized first Confession time for the candidates.
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Maybe you can clarify something for me then. Although Catechumens will be baptized and therefore don’t need to do first confession, are they even allowed to go to confession before being baptized?
 
I am hopefully going to be joining RCIA in the fall but my priest and I had a long discussion about reconciliation this week. He gave me some literature and I will be reading up on it. He said that as long as you know the form to use in the confessional (i.e. examination of conciensce, in the name of…, forgive me, father, for I have sinned…) any baptised Christian can partake in the sacrament of reconciliaition. I hope to be going in the next couple of weeks.
 
dje101 said:
Maybe you can clarify something for me then. Although Catechumens will be baptized and therefore don’t need to do first confession, are they even allowed to go to confession before being baptized?
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No. The sacraments are only for baptized Christians. Therefore, the Catechumen must partake in the sacrament of baptism before partaking in any other sacraments as that is the foundation.
 
dje101 said:
Maybe you can clarify something for me then. Although Catechumens will be baptized and therefore don’t need to do first confession, are they even allowed to go to confession before being baptized?
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No.
 
anp1215 said:
Candidates receive Reconciliation before the Easter Vigil. Of course, they should receive it afterwards as well, whenever needed, just like all Catholics.

Candidates are already baptized, so any mortal sins committed since Baptism must be confessed before reception of the Eucharist and Confirmation on Easter Vigil. All must be in a state of grace before reception of the Sacraments.

Catechumens will be baptized at the Easter Vigil, which washes away all sins, thus, they do not need to Confess beforehand.

I (a candidate) had my first Confession the Saturday before Holy Week and the Easter Vigil (so, the Saturday before Palm Sunday). We had an all day “retreat” type thing to prepare for our upcoming initiation, and when it was over, all of the Candidates went and had first Confession. I think most RCIA programs do something similar, an organized first Confession time for the candidates.
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Thank you and sorry for my denseness! 🙂
 
Joshua_Shorter said:
No. The sacraments are only for baptized Christians. Therefore, the Catechumen must partake in the sacrament of baptism before partaking in any other sacraments as that is the foundation.
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ARRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHH!!! MY RCIA TEACHERS TOLD US JUST THIS LAST SUNDAY THAT WE ARE COMPLETELY ALLOWED TO GO TO CONFESSION IF WE WANT TO, BUT SIMPLY DON’T HAVE TO BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO BE BAPTIZED!!!

:mad::mad::mad:
 
dje101 said:
ARRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHH!!! MY RCIA TEACHERS TOLD US JUST THIS LAST SUNDAY THAT WE ARE COMPLETELY ALLOWED TO GO TO CONFESSION IF WE WANT TO, BUT SIMPLY DON’T HAVE TO BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO BE BAPTIZED!!!

:mad::mad::mad:
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Baptism is the “gateway” to the other Sacraments. It comes before everything else.

Have you spoken to your priest about this teacher yet? The Bishop? You really need to. I’m so sorry about the bad experience you are having. This person needs to have a serious talking to, and probably removed from this ministry.
 
dje101 said:
ARRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHH!!! MY RCIA TEACHERS TOLD US JUST THIS LAST SUNDAY THAT WE ARE COMPLETELY ALLOWED TO GO TO CONFESSION IF WE WANT TO, BUT SIMPLY DON’T HAVE TO BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO BE BAPTIZED!!!

:mad::mad::mad:
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I’m so sorry about this. Baptism is your door into the Church. I have already been validly baptized when I was younger so I qualify. I cannot partake of the Eucharist until I have gone through the other rites of initiation.

As a humorous side note, I was having dinner with a priest a few days ago and he found out I was diabetic. He asked me how I handled it and I said, “Father, it is pretty touch and go. You should probably just initiate me now to be on the safe side. ;)” That gave everyone a good laugh because I am in very good control.
 
anp1215 said:
Baptism is the “gateway” to the other Sacraments. It comes before everything else.

Have you spoken to your priest about this teacher yet? The Bishop? You really need to. I’m so sorry about the bad experience you are having. This person needs to have a serious talking to, and probably removed from this ministry.
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I’ve spoken with my priest, he will be speaking with the teachers soon. In the meantime, he wants me to email him everytime there is something that is taught that is against the Church’s teaching.

Do you have a paragraph number from the CCC for this?
 
dje101 said:
I’ve spoken with my priest, he will be speaking with the teachers soon. In the meantime, he wants me to email him everytime there is something that is taught that is against the Church’s teaching.

Do you have a paragraph number from the CCC for this?
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1213 Holy Baptism is the basis of the whole Christian life, the gateway to life in the Spirit (vitae spiritualis ianua), and the door which gives access to the other sacraments. Through Baptism we are freed from sin and reborn as sons of God; we become members of Christ, are incorporated into the Church and made sharers in her mission: “Baptism is the sacrament of regeneration through water in the word.”
 
dje101 said:
I’ve spoken with my priest, he will be speaking with the teachers soon. In the meantime, he wants me to email him everytime there is something that is taught that is against the Church’s teaching.

Do you have a paragraph number from the CCC for this?
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It sounds like you have a supportive and active priest. Congratulations!!
 
anp1215 said:
1213 Holy Baptism is the basis of the whole Christian life, the gateway to life in the Spirit (vitae spiritualis ianua), and the door which gives access to the other sacraments. Through Baptism we are freed from sin and reborn as sons of God; we become members of Christ, are incorporated into the Church and made sharers in her mission: “Baptism is the sacrament of regeneration through water in the word.”
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Thank you so very much. I was having a bit of difficulty locating a paragraph which would back me up. I’ll be bringing this up to the teachers tonight, as well as paragraphs 2271-2272 to let them know that the Church DOES teach against abortion (they said it was just a suggestion). :mad:
 
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