Cathedral of Our Lady of the Angels in L.A

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twf said:
I’m not judging…I’m just curious… how could a single chair cost $1 million? Unless it is made of pure, solid gold all the way through…I can’t begin to wrap my head around that figure for a chair?
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Nor the $250,000 for presider’s chair and the Deacon chairs.
 
SKWill said:
I don’t believe the chair actually cost $1M; I suspect the listed “budgeted costs” are the donor recognition gift levels listed in the COLA capital campaign materials. It is typical when conducting capital campaigns, whether you’re building a church, school, laboratory, or social services center, to set the “prices” for naming opportunities or donor recognition well above the actual construct costs of the spaces or items in order to reach the fundraising goal. It’s easier to fund a donor for the bishop’s chair than for the HVAC system.
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You are correct. Mahony originally estimated that it would take decades to fully finish-out OLA. $$$ just kept tumbling over the transom (LA, CA is huge, has a lot of $$$ and was in sincere need of a larger main meeting space) so they were able to “spend baby, spend!” until it was complete.
 
phil19034 said:
St. Patrick’s is perhaps the most famous, but I hardly consider it the most beautiful Cathedral. The Cathedral Basilica of Sts Peter and Paul in Philadelphia is far more beautiful on this inside, as are many others like:
  • Cathedral Basilica of St. Louis King of France in New Orleans
  • Cathedral Basilica of Saint Louis in St Louis
  • St. Mary of the Angels in Chicago
  • Cathedral of Saint Paul in St. Paul, MN
St. Pats is nice if you prefer gothic, but there are many other styles, including Roman, etc.

These days, St. Patrick’s is more a museum than a Church.

In regards to the new Cathedrals in CA, I’m not a fan of any of the three. But I devoutly believe that Jesus is there.

God Bless
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Yay! I’m happy you listed the Cathedral Basilica St. Louis. I’m from St.L and that church is gorgeous.
 
phil19034 said:
huh? Never claimed that it wasn’t the Cathedral. But I don’t like that when you first walk in, the first thing you see are security guards, a store, an electronic kiosk, and a visitor’s desk.

And during Mass, MANY people are still walking around, sightseeing.
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tafan said:
This happens at the large cathedrals/churches all over the world.
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Unlike most Cathedrals, people do not enter the Cathedral of Our Lady of the Angels through a rear door near the last pews. Instead, people enter the ambulatory which circles the interior of the Cathedral. It’s a great design, especially when there are sightseers walking around during Mass.
Solomonson said:
You are correct. Mahony originally estimated that it would take decades to fully finish-out OLA. $$$ just kept tumbling over the transom (LA, CA is huge, has a lot of $$$ and was in sincere need of a larger main meeting space) so they were able to “spend baby, spend!” until it was complete.
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Most cathedrals take decades and even centuries to be completely “finished,” including the interior accents. To his credit, Cardinal Mahony worked his rolodex in getting so many people, foundations, and corporations to donate that the cathedral was well paid for, even before construction began. But the real “seed” was Sir Daniel Donohoe, who donated money specifically for a new cathedral.
 
janeway529 said:
…Most cathedrals take decades and even centuries to be completely “finished,” including the interior accents. To his credit, Cardinal Mahony worked his rolodex in getting so many people, foundations, and corporations to donate that the cathedral was well paid for, even before construction began. But the real “seed” was Sir Daniel Donohoe, who donated money specifically for a new cathedral.
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Not only Daniel Donohue, but other huge hitters like Rupert Murdoch, the O’Malley Family of the LA Dodgers and others opened their checkbooks.
 
janeway529 said:
Unlike most Cathedrals, people do not enter the Cathedral of Our Lady of the Angels through a rear door near the last pews. Instead, people enter the ambulatory which circles the interior of the Cathedral. It’s a great design, especially when there are sightseers walking around during Mass.
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I was referring to St. Patrick’s, not Our Lady of the Angels.

I actually like the newer design of entering a separate ambulatory or larger narthex from the outside, before entering the Nave.

My home parish has a long narthex separating all exterior doors from the Nave. I really like that design.
 
Estevao said:
I saw a video tour of this putative Cathedral once where the vlogger could not find the tabernacle and had to ask several people before he could find where it was. I was shocked at this, but I’ve never seen this in practice. In my diocese every tabernacle is right in the center, easily seen.
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It is not putative - it is the cathedral.

And it is not unusual for a cathedral to have the tabernacle off to the side, often in a room specific to it.
 
otjm said:
It is not putative - it is the cathedral.

And it is not unusual for a cathedral to have the tabernacle off to the side, often in a room specific to it.
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This is true in my experience. The Cathedral in the diocese where I grew up, San Jose, has the tabernacle behind the bishop’s large cathedra out of sight of the congregation during mass. The closest Catholic parish to my house is similar in that the tabernacle is in a side room attached to the sacristy and not in open view of the congregation.
 
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