Catholic Agencies Adopt Gay Adoption Rights

[Robertsxxx]

Catholic agencies turn on gay adoption rights as exemption period runs out

50% of the Catholic adoption agencies that threatened to close if forced to work with gay couples have adopted the new equality law.

11 agencies were given a 21 month exemption period from the Equality Act in April 2007, which forbade discrimination in the provision of good and services on the grounds of sexuality.

The exemption period ran out at the start of the new year.

Of those 11 agencies, five have changed their position and will now comply with the laws, whilst one is to close, and two are still seeking exemption, BBC News reports.

The Christian Institute’s Mike Judge told BBC Radio 5Live that the new law is “aggressive” towards faith organisations.

He said: “I think it’s iconic of a situation where you’ve got a clash between sexual orientation rights and religious rights where in almost every circumstance I’ve been aware of, religious rights have been seen to play second fiddle.”

The compliance with the new regulations by Catholic adoption agencies has been met with strong criticism by some members of the Church.

In October 2008, the Bishop of Lancaster Patrick O’Donoghue threatened to evict adoption agency Catholic Caring Services from church premises for complying with the Equality Act.

It is as yet unknown as to whether the remaining three agencies will comply or continue appealing for exemption.

Source: pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10216.html

 

[rien]

Source: pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10216.html

Not a surprise. In the US once hospitals are forced to perform abortions I suspect the majority of US Catholic hospitals will go along.

The Emperor has no clothes and neither does the Catholic church.

 

[Robertsxxx]

Not a surprise. In the US once hospitals are forced to perform abortions I suspect the majority of US Catholic hospitals will go along.

The Emperor has no clothes and neither does the Catholic church.

They can just close down & not receive government funding & uphold their beliefs; but I guess a job is more dear, from what I see here.

 

[Holly3278]

Disgusting! I honestly believe that in a case like this, they should have preferred to violate this unjust law rather than adopt gay “rights”.

 

[Neil_Anthony]

Not a surprise. In the US once hospitals are forced to perform abortions I suspect the majority of US Catholic hospitals will go along.

The Emperor has no clothes and neither does the Catholic church.

This is very different than performing abortions in a Catholic hospital.

Finding adults willing to care for an abandoned child is objectively a good thing… the problem is that by accepting gay couples as adoptees, it indirectly approves of their relationship. But it is still a good for the child to find someone to care for them. It isn’t intrinsically evil for a gay couple to provide care and upbringing to an abandoned child.

Abortion is intrinsically evil. It’s a very different question.

(And NO, I’m not saying catholic agencies should adopt out to gay couples).

 

[mdgspencer]

This story is from the British Broadcasting Corporation. I hope the BBC has it wrong–lately the BBC has put on anti-Catholic broadcasts so I don’t trust what they say…
As far as the Church itself, this can be a good thing, requiring Church authorities to stand up openly against what the world is trying to require of it. This could lead to harsh treatment–but perhaps this is like a temptation for the Church itself, just as we as individuals are tempted by the world, the flesh and the devil to comply with them.
In the U.S. also legal measures are being taken against the Church, especially so far when it comes to legislatures trying to require Church agencies to fund contraceptives for their employees. I expect there will be more such measures in the U.S. beyond this.

 

[MDK]

Not a surprise. In the US once hospitals are forced to perform abortions I suspect the majority of US Catholic hospitals will go along.

The Emperor has no clothes and neither does the Catholic church.

You know not of what you speak… in either instance. Why do you seek to denigrate and slander the Bride of Christ? Is this really doing what Christ has asked us to do?

The Church correctly teaches that abortion is the killing of an innocent person, and cannot be justified. The Church isn’t promoting homosexuality, and the official teachings of the Church oppose not the tendency, but the homosexual act, as they do heterosexual acts outside of marriage.

Some counterfeit churches teach that abortion and/or homosexual acts are acceptable… these churches have “no clothes” so to speak.

If you are ignorant of the Church, you are then ignorant of Christ. If you understood, believed what the infallible teaching Church teaches regarding understanding and living the Gospel, receiving the Sacraments in the Church worthily, then you would be much closer to Christ, than you would be without the Church. The Church He built, known as the Catholic Church stems from His Holy Will, for us to receive His Grace as His family, His Body, His Bride.

 

[Roamin_Xian]

(And NO, I’m not saying catholic agencies should adopt out to gay couples).

Let me give you a little conundrum:

1. Young girl gets pregnant. Contemplates both abortion and adoption.
2. A gay couple is willing to adopt- not many people do anyhow, but they are.

Would you rather…

A. Have her abort the baby?

B. Adopt to a loving household.

C. End up at some agency where it will be moved around a couple time or more, and not have a stable household.

 

[MHalsey]

Let me give you a little conundrum:

1. Young girl gets pregnant. Contemplates both abortion and adoption.
2. A gay couple is willing to adopt- not many people do anyhow, but they are.

Would you rather…

A. Have her abort the baby?

B. Adopt to a loving household.

C. End up at some agency where it will be moved around a couple time or more, and not have a stable household.

Are these the only choices?
Are only homosexual couples now adopting?

Sorry, but it doesn’t have to be either/or.

 

[AveSantaMaria]

Out from Under: The Impact of Homosexual Parenting
secularheretic-st.blogspot.com/2009/01/out-from-under-impact-of-homosexual.html

Here is an extract from Dawn’s web site. Dawn Stefanowicz

My name is Dawn Stefanowicz, I grew up in a homosexual household during the 60s and 70s in Toronto, exposed to many different people in the GLBT (Gay, Lesbian, bisexual, Transsexual) subcultures, and explicit sexual practices.

I have considered some of the potential physical and psychological health risks for children raised in this situation. I was at high risk of exposure to contagious STDs due to sexual molestation, my father’s high-risk sexual behaviors, and multiple partners. Even when my father was in what looked like monogamous relationships, he continued cruising for anonymous sex.

I came to deeply care for, love and compassionately understand my dad. He shared his life regrets with me. Unfortunately, my father, as a child, was sexually and physically abused by older males. Due to this, he lived with depression, control issues, anger outbursts, suicidal tendencies, and sexual compulsions. He tried to fulfill his legitimate needs for his father’s affirmation, affection and attention with transient and promiscuous relationships. He and his partners were exposed to various contagious STD’s as they traveled across North America. My father’s (ex)partners, whom I had deep caring feelings for and associated with, had drastically shortened lives due to suicide, contracting HIV or Aids. Sadly, my father died of AIDS in 1991.

According to a growing number of personal testimonies, experts, and organizations, there is mounting evidence of strong commonalities to my personal experiences. Not only do children do best with both a mother and a father in a lifelong marriage bond, children need responsible monogamous parents who have no extramarital sexual partners. Parental promiscuity, abuse and divorce are not good for children.

From a young age, I was exposed to explicit sexual speech, self-indulgent lifestyles, varied GLBT subcultures and gay vacation spots. Sex looked gratuitous to me as a child. I was exposed to all inclusive manifestations of sexuality including bathhouse sex, cross-dressing, sodomy, pornography, gay nudity, lesbianism, bisexuality, minor recruitment, voyeurism and exhbitionism. Sado-masochism was allued to and aspects demonstrated. Alcohol and drugs were often contributing factors to lower inhibitions in my father’s relationships.

My father prized unisex dressing, gender-neutral aspects and a famous cross-dressing icon when I was eight years old. I did not see the value of biological complementing differences of male and female or think about marriage. I made vows to never have children since I had not gorwn up in a safe, sacrificial, child-centered home environment. I can tell you that I suffered long term in this situation, and this has been professionally documented.

Over two decades of direct exposure to these stressful experiences caused me insecurity, depression, suicidal thoughts, dread, anxiousness, low self-esteem, sleeplessness and sexuality confusion. My conscience and innocence were seriously damaged. I witnessed that every other family member suffered severely as well.

Marriage needs to remain a societal foundation that constitutes, represents, and defends inherently procreative relationship between the husband and the wife for the welfare of their biological children. Children need consistent appropriate boundaries and secure expressions of emotional intimacy that are not sexualized in the home and community.

Why is such a small, unrepresentative clique within the GLBT subcultures wanting same-sex marriage? Mr. John McKellar, Executive Director of H.O.P.E. (Homosexuals Opposed to Pride Extremism) has stated, and I quote:

“It is selfish and rude for the gay community to push same-sex marriage legislation and redefine society’s traditions and conventions for our own self-indulgence… Federal and provincial laws are being changed and the traditional values are being compromised just to appease a tiny, self anointed clique.”

In my opnion, same-sex marriage will put the human rights of the individual in a higher place than what is best for society, families and especially children. Human rights were meant to protect the individual and not groups. In this crucial debate, children’s human rights have become secondary, ignored and denied.

Already this is happening under the banner of anti-bullying, safe schools’ policies and through Gay-Straight Alliances. In reality, these policies provide a direct legal entranceway of indoctrination, desensitization, personal and political recruitment of our vulnerable children by some gay activists within our schools while silencing all students who oppose the gay agenda.

Dawn’s book, “Out from Under: The Impact of Homosexual Parenting.” is now available for book orders at Annotation Books or by calling 1-877-421-READ (7323) Toll-Free or calling 1-360-802-9758 if outside of the U.S.

 

[vera_dicere]

Has anyone ever reeally stopped to think of the child’s right? Doesn’t the child deserve a mother and a father? It really angers me that children are treated as property.

There are so many, many, many straight couples wanting to adopt. They shoudl be given first dibs over a couple of guys or girls who want to feel “normal”. While 50% of marriages these days end in divorce, the average gay relationship lasts only 5 - 7 years!

I have friends who were raised in gay families - one of my friends told me while she loved both her dads, she really, really wished she had a mum to confine in.

 

[RobHom]

Let me give you a little conundrum:

1. Young girl gets pregnant. Contemplates both abortion and adoption.
2. A gay couple is willing to adopt- not many people do anyhow, but they are.

Would you rather…

A. Have her abort the baby?

B. Adopt to a loving household.

C. End up at some agency where it will be moved around a couple time or more, and not have a stable household.

That’s an easy one!!

I have known quite a few “gay” people…and frankly, while I used to be something of a homophobe, I guess I’ve matured in some ways.

All of the gays I have known are either celibate or in committed relationships that have lasted 20 years or more…much longer than the average heterosexual marriage in these days and times.

Not once has a single one of them ever done anything that I would object to, and I am a very committed and married man who loves and adores his bride of over 30 years. I have ZERO latent tendencies.

Frankly, I would prefer that the young lady not abort, and further, I would prefer to see the child placed with a homosexually oriented couple than thrown into a foster home or multiple foster homes that may cause the child to end up thoroughly maligned mentally, or end up abused in one form or another.

Frankly, I think much of the “railing, moaning and gnashing of teeth” by people who object to things…are done by people who know little of what is really going on…

 

[AveSantaMaria]

That’s an easy one!!

Frankly, I think much of the “railing, moaning and gnashing of teeth” by people who object to things…are done by people who know little of what is really going on…

And you do Because you have a very few gay friends but have almost no exposure to the homosexual community as a whole, you know better than everyone else who opposes this according to the Cathechism of the Catholic Church and the statements of the bishops! You know “what is really going on” even better than Dawn Stefanowicz, who grew up with a homosexual father!!

 

[RobHom]

And you do Because you have a very few gay friends but have almost no exposure to the homosexual community as a whole, you know better than everyone else who opposes this according to the Cathechism of the Catholic Church and the statements of the bishops! You know “what is really going on” even better than Dawn Stefanowicz, who grew up with a homosexual father!!

Sorry, but I do not see one persons issues as setting the norm for all. I can understand the issues, however…one must look beyond the singular dissenter.

Given the number of children that are molested, abused, psychologically manipulated or destroyed in heterosexual relationships…there is a reality that points to the fact that despite all claims to the contrary…children living in a home with heterosexual parents aren’t all that safe.

Please don’t fall prey to subjective editorializing, and please don’t try to lump me in with what you may consider the “evil liberal”…
I am the product of a “loving”…LOL!! family…I know better.

80,000 or more children are abused by heterosexual parents annually…and it is estimated that 50% of the cases go unreported!!

I do not profess to know better than “anyone”, but I will tell you this…be they homosexual deviates, or heterosexual deviates…it would make little or no difference at all.

On the other hand…after having spoken at length with my brother who sought to adopt a child because his wife had serious problems post delivery of their sole child…the hoops that he was expected to jump through were enormous…and frankly any gay couple that could clear those hoops…would be a damn fine family unit to raise the child!

But I guess by your standards…it would be better to deny the child any chance at happiness or a decent home with a loving pair of parents…and keep them locked in a dismal system of foster care. Perhaps you would like to “expand” your horizons and take a close look at the world around you before you dive into the deep end and judge and condemn all before you have the facts at hand…

Check it out:

casanet.org/library/abuse/abuse-stats98.htm#PERPETRATORS

Its a sad story…and its all about Mom’s and Dad’s…

Don’t misunderstand me… I am not necessarily an “advocate” of children being adopted by gays…I still, despite the empirical evidence a believer that a child needs a Mom (female) and a Dad (male)…but I am not willing to rule out that a same sex couple cannot nurture a child properly.

 

[AveSantaMaria]

Sorry, but I do not see one persons issues as setting the norm for all. I can understand the issues, however…one must look beyond the singular dissenter.

Given the number of children that are molested, abused, psychologically manipulated or destroyed in heterosexual relationships…there is a reality that points to the fact that despite all claims to the contrary…children living in a home with heterosexual parents aren’t all that safe.

Please don’t fall prey to subjective editorializing, and please don’t try to lump me in with what you may consider the “evil liberal”…
I am the product of a “loving”…LOL!! family…I know better.

80,000 or more children are abused by heterosexual parents annually…and it is estimated that 50% of the cases go unreported!!

I do not profess to know better than “anyone”, but I will tell you this…be they homosexual deviates, or heterosexual deviates…it would make little or no difference at all.

On the other hand…after having spoken at length with my brother who sought to adopt a child because his wife had serious problems post delivery of their sole child…the hoops that he was expected to jump through were enormous…and frankly any gay couple that could clear those hoops…would be a damn fine family unit to raise the child!

But I guess by your standards…it would be better to deny the child any chance at happiness or a decent home with a loving pair of parents…and keep them locked in a dismal system of foster care. Perhaps you would like to “expand” your horizons and take a close look at the world around you before you dive into the deep end and judge and condemn all before you have the facts at hand…

Check it out:

casanet.org/library/abuse/abuse-stats98.htm#PERPETRATORS

Its a sad story…and its all about Mom’s and Dad’s…

Don’t misunderstand me… I am not necessarily an “advocate” of children being adopted by gays…I still, despite the empirical evidence a believer that a child needs a Mom (female) and a Dad (male)…but I am not willing to rule out that a same sex couple cannot nurture a child properly.

I am not sure how your very few gay friends should set the norm for all either, or why they should be listened to more than Dawn Stefanowicz. I strongly suspect that a woman who grew up with a homosexual father, very deeply invovled with the homosexual community from birth, who knows all of its non politically correct secrets that are not shared outside of the community might be worth listening to.

The argument that because some children are abused in heterosexual relationships it doesn’t really matter if the relationship is homosexual or heterosexual doesn’t make sense in light of the Catholic Church’s teaching. Homosexuality is a disordered desire. These relationships can never. Yes, never ever be healthy!

Gianna Jesson, Christian singer, whose 17 year old parents attempted to abort her in an 18 hour saline abortion that left her with cerebal palsy - initially lived in a foster care home. giannajessen.com/

Do we know of any statistics that can show that a gay home is a healthier home for children than a foster-care home? I can’t tell you the answer to this question but I think that the issue is more thorny than has been previously noted because at least in the foster-care home the children are not receiving the message that the homosexual lifestyle, which statistically looks a lot like the experience of that poor girl according to research statistics as well as evidence from gay magazines, is healthy.

Maybe you might help me to understand the non subjective evidence that you are reading so that I can see homes with gay couples are healthier than foster-care homes. I checked the link that you posted above, but I do not understand what it has to do with the issue of gay adoption. I apologize for any accidental rudeness in this email. Thank you for reading!