If a bishop agrees to it, then it is not subject to excommunication. Remember, the bishop regulates the canons.So their bishop would give them permission to do something and then excommunicate them for doing it?
Not just because this is a Catholic forum means people should give bad advice.
Thank you!Might have something to do with this being Catholic Answers, not Orthodox Answers.
I’m pretty much leaving the original point because I can’t believe what I’m hearing: namely (post #96) that an Eastern Orthodox who receives the eucharist in an Oriental Orthodox parish, is in full communion with the Oriental Orthodox.
I think the original point had something to do with receiveing communion between the Orthodox and Catholic Church. But somehow you morphed it into an Oriental Orthodox scenario. So I am still not sure which point you are trying to make. But then again…it is way off topic.
Perhaps so. In any case, I think I should bow out of this thread for a while … since post #96 my desire to converse with Orthodox posters has taken a real nosedive. (Edit: Well, possibly the nosedive started earlier, when you and Constantine claimed that an Orthodox who receives communion in a Catholic parish is in communion with Catholicism.)
That is your prerogative.
But we "Orthodox posters" still enjoy conversing with you. :)Only you can know when your nosedive started. I just know that it is forbidden for me to receive Communion in a RC or EC Church…and I am obedient to my spiritual father and bishop. To receive communion there, would mean that I am in agreement with everything your Church teaches…which I am not.
Didn’t you claim that an Orthodox who receives communion in a Catholic parish thereby enters into full communion with Rome?
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I agreed with something that Constantine said regarding receiving Communion in a non-Orthodox setting. If we are going to receive elsewhere, then we would enter into communion with that group.
P.S. Did you mean to say that an Orthodox inter-communing with Catholics is as seriously as entering into full communion with Rome? (E.g. that either action would incur excommunication?)
I see. I guess that makes sense – essentially equivalent to saying that you wouldn’t receive without being in communion.
I am saying that I could never….and would never……receive the Holy Eucharist at a non-Orthodox assembly. I am under an obedience. If I were to do so, it would mean that I have made a conscious decision to leave the Holy Orthodox Church and enter into communion with that assembly and their beliefs. I hope that clarifies it for you.
Peter J, I can answer this because as an Orthodox Christian, I’ve done it…gone to a Catholic Church & received Communion - it is a sin. My spiritual father told me to never committ that serious sin again. Later on, I did it again, my spiritual father let me know that this is a very serious situation and basically that he is responsible for my soul/my sins and that by re-admitting to communion with the Orthodox Church he will be held responsible if I continue to do this & he continues to allow met go back & forth - he forgave me, but with strict warning.
Do you have a spiritual director in the CC? Just curious, I’ve had confession experiences all over, some are fantastic confessors others not as good.
Touche. It happened about an hour later than I thought it would.I thought you were bowing out?
Thanks.
I can’t say that I would have guessed that.Whenever I hear that Eastern Catholicism is “the best of both worlds”, I can’t help but cringe a little at the thought that Western-Rite Orthodoxy is the worst of both worlds.Based on my own experience I would have to agree with you. When I canonically became Eastern Catholic (from Roman Catholicism), I considered it as “the best of both worlds.” I quickly learned differently. The more formed I became in Eastern spirituality, the closer I came to Holy Orthodoxy. Ironically, it was an Eastern Catholic clergyman who encouraged me and my family to become Orthodox.
Sorry. I don’t follow you.
Really? Then do you discard all that was revealed through the Holy Spirit after the Ascension? No mission to the Gentiles…no deacons…no suppression of the Mosaic law…etc., etc. So, do you tear out all the New Testament books after the Gospel of St. John?
It may seem like they never existed. They were always there, just not explicit.
