Catholic and protestants too!

[Zundrah]

Guanophore is like super man, he always runs to my rescue.
But seriously, St.Edward the confessor says it is a Catholic church. It was the two cathedrals in London that I thought were catholic but actually turned out to be Anglican!
But coming from a protestants point of view it is easy to mistake a church to be catholic just by looks alone.

 

[guanophore]

Praise the Lord that there are other sane people in the world that agree with me!

This mentality, actually, is much more dangerous than where you have fellowship. It reflects the notion that how you think about things must be right, because it makes sense to you, and that, if others think or believe differently, they are not quite “sane”. It makes yourself the standard of what is right and wrong.

But seriously, St.Edward the confessor says it is a Catholic church. It was the two cathedrals in London that I thought were catholic but actually turned out to be Anglican!
But coming from a protestants point of view it is easy to mistake a church to be catholic just by looks alone.

Ok, but many traditional Anglican communions call themselves “Catholic” and are not in union with the Pope. Of course, there is nothing wrong with attending the Anglican service either, especially in the course of researching your faith.

Yes, you are certainly right about mistaking Churches. During the Reformation, the Protestants evicted the Catholics from monasteries and Cathedrals, and took them over. Those that chose not to leave willingly were welcome to be put to death.

 

[myseaton]

It is evident that you are being drawn to the Catholic church and not being able to partake in the fullness of the sacraments, I can understand your need to visit the Methodist church. Continue to seek Christ and He will direct your path!

 

[Zundrah]

It is evident that you are being drawn to the Catholic church and not being able to partake in the fullness of the sacraments, I can understand your need to visit the Methodist church. Continue to seek Christ and He will direct your path!

May God be with you too myseaton! God bless.

 

[lhk0pd]

As one raised a Protestant i converted over 40 yrs ago and have never looked back. So i guess one could use Jesus words about following him and not to remove your hand from the plow. I of course have listened to Protestant ministers on radio and Tv and Funerals and i can tell you they will take there jabs at the Catholic Church.Just as at my Sisterinlaws funeral the Lutheran Minister must have seen us cross our self’s as we viewed her body and later on in her Homily she had to throw a anti Catholic comment in saying it was words my wifes sister said. To me i think it serves no good purpose to attend a Methodist or any Protestant worship service as i can guarantee you they will attempt to trick you and try to talk you into joining there Church. Call me insane or rude if you like but this is how i feel. You have no idea how many Catholics have stopped attending Mass because they love the fellowship of a certain Protestant Church and yet have had to witness the back stabbing that happens to members who they feel are snobbing them.I’ll shut up but as Jesus said let the dead bury the dead.

 

[Rawb]

Zundrah, if there’s any confusion about whether or not you’re attending a Catholic Church (because other communities DO call themselves Catholic, even putting it on their signs and saying “We are Catholic” if you ask them, when they are in no way associated with the true Catholic Church), go to the Roman Catholic Diocese’s website in which you live. There will almost certainly be a list of the parishes connected to your diocese. If St. Edward the Confessor is listed, then there’re no worries.

Here, I saw you said “London”. If this is the Church you’re talking about, no worries, it’s Catholic:

rcdow.org.uk/parishes/default.asp

 

[Zundrah]

As one raised a Protestant i converted over 40 yrs ago and have never looked back. So i guess one could use Jesus words about following him and not to remove your hand from the plow. I of course have listened to Protestant ministers on radio and Tv and Funerals and i can tell you they will take there jabs at the Catholic Church.Just as at my Sisterinlaws funeral the Lutheran Minister must have seen us cross our self’s as we viewed her body and later on in her Homily she had to throw a anti Catholic comment in saying it was words my wifes sister said. To me i think it serves no good purpose to attend a Methodist or any Protestant worship service as i can guarantee you they will attempt to trick you and try to talk you into joining there Church. Call me insane or rude if you like but this is how i feel. You have no idea how many Catholics have stopped attending Mass because they love the fellowship of a certain Protestant Church and yet have had to witness the back stabbing that happens to members who they feel are snobbing them.I’ll shut up but as Jesus said let the dead bury the dead.

No don’t shut up! I like what you’re saying because you seem to know what your saying and rather then putting protestants down like most Catholics would, instead you have just simply lay out the points that are fact. The ministers will sneer and try to humiliate the catholic church, you are right about that. And I know that if I told told them that I had joined a catholic church they would probably laugh at me. But what kind of people are they if they their best to pull me away from it? I think it would be best if I stayed away from the Methodist church now. I have RICA starting on the 7th July, so it would be best if I just kept my questions there and here on this site.

You have no idea how many Catholics have stopped attending Mass because they love the fellowship of a certain Protestant Church

This is true, and this is also why the protestant churches in my area are populating - simply because people like the way it goes about it’s worship, playing christian rock music and stupid youth clubs that always go off of the subject to talk about their boyfriends and other irrelevant rubbish! This is the story of most protestant ministry today…how sad. Thankfully stuff like that doesn’t happen in catholic mass. The church has always kept it’s traditional worship and communion, THANKFULLY.

Call me insane or rude if you like but this is how i feel

I think that you are neither insane nor rude, it’s very good of you to be direct with me. As you can probably tell I do need guidance and too often we make the wrong decision simply because other Christians who saw us going down hill didn’t bother to say some thing to help or nudge us back in the right direction. But you are helping right now and making me think more clearly, thank you lhk0pd.

 

[Zundrah]

Zundrah, if there’s any confusion about whether or not you’re attending a Catholic Church (because other communities DO call themselves Catholic, even putting it on their signs and saying “We are Catholic” if you ask them, when they are in no way associated with the true Catholic Church), go to the Roman Catholic Diocese’s website in which you live. There will almost certainly be a list of the parishes connected to your diocese. If St. Edward the Confessor is listed, then there’re no worries.

Here, I saw you said “London”. If this is the Church you’re talking about, no worries, it’s Catholic:

rcdow.org.uk/parishes/default.asp

St. Edward the Confessor turned out to be Anglican! Not going there for mass now…

But thankfully the only one that turned out to be genuine was the nearest church to my house ( yay )!
Thanks for this help Rawb! You’re a diamond!

 

[lhk0pd]

Thank you for your complements and i assure you once you begin receieving the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ you to will not look back. I agree with your assesment of Protestant social gatherings . I let my Grandson go to a Pentacostal Church youth meetings that were advertised as a safe place for Teens to get together for adult sponsered fun. He had a girl who was begging him to come and even tho i knew what king of people would be running the gathering i instructed him to say nothing about attending the Catholic Church. He went twice and said they were all acting crazy and all they tried to do was talk you into attending there Church.Another time a Protestant group held a youth rally at the High School Gymnasium. It too was a conversion rally and he said they even locked the doors so Kids could not come and go as they pleased. I wanted him to experience what i warned him about and trusted in GOD he would see the difference and make the right choices and he did. Congratulations on your decision and welcome home…

 

[Zundrah]

Thank you for your complements and i assure you once you begin receieving the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ you to will not look back. I agree with your assesment of Protestant social gatherings . I let my Grandson go to a Pentacostal Church youth meetings that were advertised as a safe place for Teens to get together for adult sponsered fun. He had a girl who was begging him to come and even tho i knew what king of people would be running the gathering i instructed him to say nothing about attending the Catholic Church. He went twice and said they were all acting crazy and all they tried to do was talk you into attending there Church.Another time a Protestant group held a youth rally at the High School Gymnasium. It too was a conversion rally and he said they even locked the doors so Kids could not come and go as they pleased. I wanted him to experience what i warned him about and trusted in GOD he would see the difference and make the right choices and he did. Congratulations on your decision and welcome home…

The protestant church is really informal and even plain ridiculous at most times. Oh and by the way;

Congratulations on your decision and welcome home…

“Honey, I’m home!”

xxx

 

[BenM]

You know me from a few other threads I’m sure. Anyway, I’m also in England (not far from London, and within your/our diocese most likely) and also a recent convert to the Church, so if you need any bits of information or help finding stuff out, or just general advice or resources from what I know of the Faith so far, just let me know.

 

[Zundrah]

You know me from a few other threads I’m sure. Anyway, I’m also in England (not far from London, and within your/our diocese most likely) and also a recent convert to the Church, so if you need any bits of information or help finding stuff out, or just general advice or resources from what I know of the Faith so far, just let me know.

Thank you Ben! That’s nice of you and I will post or PM you any problems I have!

P.S. Are you here on a travel or are you actually British?

 

[DebChris]

The protestant church is really informal and even plain ridiculous at most times. Oh and by the way;

“Honey, I’m home!”

xxx

This has not been my experience when visitiing churches of different denominations.
There may be individuals who do put down Catholicism, but they are in a minority.
Waiting on the Lord, I have been able to defuse any misconceptions that my separated brothers and sisters have about the Church that I call home.
Have there been pastors and others who have tried to convert me? Yes, but they quickly cease in most cases. Again, knowing what the Church teaches is the weapon against these attempts.

Everywhere large numbers have felt the impulse of this grace, and among our separated brethren also there increases from day to day a movement, fostered by the grace of the Holy Spirit, for the restoration of unity among all Christians. Taking part in this movement, which is called ecumenical, are those who invoke the Triune God and confess Jesus as Lord and Saviour. They do this not merely as individuals but also as members of the corporate groups in which they have heard the Gospel, and which each, regards as her Church and indeed, God’s And yet, almost everyone, though in different ways ,longs for the one visible Church of God, a Church truly universal and sent forth to the whole world that the world may be converted to the Gospel and to be saved, to the glory of God. Documents on Ecumenism (Vatican II)]

What are some of the changes that have taken place since Vatican II? Mainline Christian churches have begun to use the same liturgical calendar as the Roman Catholic Church. The mainline churches that I have visited recite the Nicene Creed. Presbyterians even capitalize Catholic. There are continuing talks focusing on what is necessary for reunification. There is dialogue and the term protestant is not used by the Holy Father.
I like the response a friend of mine heard from a priest while traveling with friends who called themselves protestant. “What are you protesting?” It is time for healing this scandalous rift.

My discussions about faith always begin with that which we share.

 

[jesuspsr]

hey all

zundrah no there nothing wrong with going to both services. Do your research then decide. however after reading all post here it seem to me that the Holy Spirit is calling you to be Catholic. If you choose to I wecolme you to a beautifull loving way of life.

Jesuspsr:thumbsup:

 

[jesuspsr]

hey all

zundrah no there nothing wrong with going to both services. Do your research then decide. however after reading all post here it seem to me that the Holy Spirit is calling you to be Catholic. If you choose to I wecolme you to a beautifull loving way of life.

Jesuspsr:thumbsup:

First start doing what’s neccesary, then do what’s possible then suddenly you’ll be doing the impossible. St. Francis of Assisi

 

[dsulpizio]

Going to the Methodist Church for devotion is wrong because Methodism is heresy. And you should not support heresy by attending.
That you go is an indication that you do not know the truth of Catholicism or that you deny it.

 

[Zundrah]

Going to the Methodist Church for devotion is wrong because Methodism is heresy. And you should not support heresy by attending.
That you go is an indication that you do not know the truth of Catholicism or that you deny it.

! ! HERESY!?! What part of the methodist teachings is heresy?

an indication that you do not know the truth of Catholicism

Well, obviously! I’m not really catholic yet and haven’t even been taught any catholic teachings from my church either.

 

[dsulpizio]

Methodists deny the sacrificial nature of the Eucharist, they deny that the Bishop of Rome has universal jurisidiction, they allow remarriage, they allow ABC and the choice to kill the unborn, they deny that auricular confession is a sacrament, etc etc.
There is so much and I don’t have the time. Maybe others can jump in w/ links, etc.
Although Protestantism is very popular today, it is a heresy, just as Arianism was popular and heretical over 1600 years ago.

 

[Zundrah]

Methodists deny the sacrificial nature of the Eucharist, they deny that the Bishop of Rome has universal jurisidiction, they allow remarriage, they allow ABC and the choice to kill the unborn, they deny that auricular confession is a sacrament, etc etc.
There is so much and I don’t have the time. Maybe others can jump in w/ links, etc.
Although Protestantism is very popular today, it is a heresy, just as Arianism was popular and heretical over 1600 years ago.

Hold on a moment!

and the choice to kill the unborn

This is NOT true! My church always argued against abortion!

 

[DebChris]

I never presume to state what members of other denominations teach or don’t teach. I have read enough falsehood written and espoused about what the Catholic Church teaches by individuals who are not members of the Church to only believe what a person of a particular denomination tells me about his/her own denomination.
When I had to write a paper on the Mennonites, for instance, I sent them a copy of the newsletter I wrote. Everything was factual based on Mennonite teaching. Are there differences between Catholics and non-Catholics? Yes. Are these differences insurmountable? Not as long as we remain in dialogue with one another. Dialogue is communication across differences. It always starts with what we have in common.
Jesus, before His death, prayed that all might be one. The divisions and rifts that continue to exist are indeed scandalous, as if Christ could be divided.
Like our Holy Father, I do not use the term Protestant. Instead I use separated brothers and sisters. Those who belong to the various denominations are not responsible for the actions that took place 500 years ago. We are first of all brothers and sisters in Christ.
It is only recently that I learned that Roman Catholic, the appellate that most of us claim, actually came from Protestants during the Reformation to indicate those who remained loyal to the Pope in Rome.
The Catholic Church does allow us to worship with our separated brothers and sisters as long as we have first attended Mass.