Catholic Archbishop: War Not Same as Abortion, Democrats Pro-Death

[juliee]

The Vatican – Archbishop Raymond Burke, the former St. Louis Catholic leader who was recently given a special retirement position in the Vatican expanded on comments he made early saying the Democratic Party has become too pro-abortion.

In a new interview with Inside the Vatican, the Catholic official condemns the party’s pro-abortion views, says abortion is a more important political issue than war and defends single-issue pro-life voting.

Full story at: lifenews.com/int974.html

 

[christmary4ever]

The Vatican – Archbishop Raymond Burke, the former St. Louis Catholic leader who was recently given a special retirement position in the Vatican expanded on comments he made early saying the Democratic Party has become too pro-abortion.

In a new interview with Inside the Vatican, the Catholic official condemns the party’s pro-abortion views, says abortion is a more important political issue than war and defends single-issue pro-life voting.

Full story at: lifenews.com/int974.html

Our Friend told us that She personally find abortion horrible.
but that abortion will hardly affect her economic status. She said
it is understandable and acceptable to vote for OBAMA because
poverty and economic disaster will affect peoples life more severely than abortion which is a personal choice.

  She said people feel more attachment to the welfare of their

love ones than anything else.
How should we response to this?

 

[manualman]

If you manage to weed through all the wordiness of “Faithful Citizenship” it really isn’t that hard to understand.

In the CURRENT case, the bishop is entirely correct. If for the sake of argument, you concede that Iraq and Afghanistan are BOTH unjust wars AND you use the HIGHEST estimates of deaths for both you come up with well under 500,000 killed (that includes Iraqi vs Iraqi violence which had quite a pace BEFORE the war). Again for the sake of argument you put this in the inherently evil position and assign at most 500,000 deaths to it as its proportionate impact.

Then examine abortion and its 5,000,000+ killed in the same time period.

Both candidates embrace policies in conflict with catholic teaching, but one has a proportionate impact more than 10 times greater than the other.

See, even if you give a LOT of ground there is no way to rationally put Iraq over abortion in proportinate impact terms unless you secretly believe that the unborn are far less valuable humans than born ones are.

 

[He_Man]

Our Friend told us that She personally find abortion horrible.
but that abortion will hardly affect her economic status. She said
it is understandable and acceptable to vote for OBAMA because
poverty and economic disaster will affect peoples life more severely than abortion which is a personal choice.

She said people feel more attachment to the welfare of their
love ones than anything else.

How should we response to this?

Tell her dead babies don’t have a chance to grow up to be poor.

Also, ask her if death if preferential to poverty, why we do not simply kill the homeless?

 

[elvisman]

Our Friend told us that She personally find abortion horrible.
but that abortion will hardly affect her economic status. She said
it is understandable and acceptable to vote for OBAMA because
poverty and economic disaster will affect peoples life more severely than abortion which is a personal choice.

She said people feel more attachment to the welfare of their
love ones than anything else.

How should we response to this?

This is how I would reply:

We will not be required to show our tax returns or stock portfolios on the day of judgement but we WILL be required to give an account of how we lived our lives. Did we feed the hungry? Clothe the naked? Protect the lives of those who had no voice? Did I stand by and do nothing while these things happened?

The bottom line is this:
Poverty is a tragedy that nations all over the world are working to end. There are countless charities dedicated to this end.
Many of those people, however, have choices to end or greatly reduce their own suffering and choose not to.

On the other hand, standing by while up to 50 million innocent and defenseless babies are murdered each year worldwide is NOT something I would want to bring to the table on the day I’m judged by God.
I can’t think of a greater tragedy in this world - can you?

 

[elvisman]

This is how I would reply:

We will not be required to show our tax returns or stock portfolios on the day of judgement but we WILL be required to give an account of how we lived our lives. Did we feed the hungry? Clothe the naked? Protect the lives of those who had no voice? Did I stand by and do nothing while these things happened?

The bottom line is this:
Poverty is a tragedy that nations all over the world are working to end. There are countless charities dedicated to this end.
Many of those people, however, have choices to end or greatly reduce their own suffering and choose not to.

On the other hand, standing by while up to 50 million innocent and defenseless babies are murdered each year worldwide is NOT something I would want to bring to the table on the day I’m judged by God.
I can’t think of a greater tragedy in this world - can you?

 

[strngrnrth]

All crimes are choices. That’s what differentiates crimes from accidents. Of course abortion is a personal choice. So is shooting a crowd down or setting fire to a hotel or pumping industrial waste into a lake or beating a full-grown person to death, or any crime at all. They are wrong, horrible, criminal personal choices that people should be held accountable for. That’s the whole point of having any laws at all. If anything should be illegal, killing people who have done nothing should be illegal, and no one has done less than a small child. A system that doesn’t take a stand against killing the innocent has no claim on the right to take any stands at all and therefore cannot stand in judgment of any breaking of any law. Such a system has given up all semblance of a protective system and has become an absolutely arbitrary one.

 

[christmary4ever]

This is how I would reply:

We will not be required to show our tax returns or stock portfolios on the day of judgement but we WILL be required to give an account of how we lived our lives. Did we feed the hungry? Clothe the naked? Protect the lives of those who had no voice? Did I stand by and do nothing while these things happened?

The bottom line is this:
Poverty is a tragedy that nations all over the world are working to end. There are countless charities dedicated to this end.
Many of those people, however, have choices to end or greatly reduce their own suffering and choose not to.

On the other hand, standing by while up to 50 million innocent and defenseless babies are murdered each year worldwide is NOT something I would want to bring to the table on the day I’m judged by God.
I can’t think of a greater tragedy in this world - can you?

Thank you.

I think there is a diabolical force putting a thick veil over peoples
heart and mind. and this is confounded by a stubborn pride.

A highly educated, financially succesful person more
often dismiss Pro-life people as too simplistic, lacking in
sophisticated reasoning and usually occupy the lower middle class.