Catholic behavior in a Lutheran Church?

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JonNC said:
It is typical to find in older Lutheran churches kneeling rails in the pews, less so in new churches. However, it is the norm for most parishes for Lutherans to kneel at the altar when receiving.

As for whether or not Lutherans have the real presence, the fact is you present the Catholic view properly. The Lutheran view is that our orders are valid, and our sacrament is valid, and while we recognize that Catholic orders are valid, and we’d be grateful if the Catholic Church recognized ours as such, we frankly don’t need Rome’s recognition to know our orders and sacraments are indeed valid.

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Hi Jon, First of all thank you for posting in my thread:)
Mutual respect is important and ecumenical work is more important than ever.
I believe that we all share the dream of Christian unity, but we have to admit that we are still very far away from that unfortunally.
We believe that The Catholic Church is the One Church that Jesus founded himself and that the Popes are the successers of Saint Peter as head of the Only true Church on Earth. Any religious activity outside the Church is not valid as sacraments has to be handled by ordinated priests of the Catholic Church. Therefor we consider sacraments of different protestantic communities to be heretical and invalid.
So thats why we never ever can recognize any of it.

God Bless!
 
HeadingBackHome said:
Hi Jon, First of all thank you for posting in my thread:)
Mutual respect is important and ecumenical work is more important than ever.
I believe that we all share the dream of Christian unity, but we have to admit that we are still very far away from that unfortunally.
We believe that The Catholic Church is the One Church that Jesus founded himself and that the Popes are the successers of Saint Peter as head of the Only true Church on Earth. Any religious activity outside the Church is not valid as sacraments has to be handled by ordinated priests of the Catholic Church. Therefor we consider sacraments of different protestantic communities to be heretical and invalid.
So thats why we never ever can recognize any of it.

God Bless!
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Of course by “Catholic” you mean those communions who have orders which the Catholic Church recognizes - Orthodoxy, PNCC, and some others. Yes, I understand the Catholic view. I suspect that, at least with Lutherans, the issue of orders will not be the major sticking point as we approach closer unity. At least that’s the sense I get when reading Lutheran / Catholic dialogue.

Jon
 
HeadingBackHome said:
Any religious activity outside the Church is not valid as sacraments has to be handled by ordinated priests of the Catholic Church. Therefor we consider sacraments of different protestantic communities to be heretical and invalid.

God Bless!
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Except for the Sacrament of Baptism, which doesn’t have to be done by a priest.
 
JonNC said:
Marriage too. Yes?

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Marriages are certainly considered valid, but I’m not sure if they’re considered sacramental. That’s a good question. My guess is ‘no’, simply because I’ve known former Lutheran couples who have gotten their marriage blessed/covalidated in the Church and I can’t think of any reason to do that if the Lutheran marriage was considered sacramental in the first place. On the other hand, those situations might have had more going on than I was aware and there might have been some other reason they needed to be covalidated. .
 
I would be reverent but I would not genuflect to the altar or the tabernacle because Jesus is not there. He is not present in Protestant ecclesial communities because they do not have the Real Presence. They do not have apostolic succession as the Catholic Church does.

Also, do not receive their version of communion or any other of their sacraments/ordinances. They are not true sacraments because they do not have real presence. The one sacrament they do have is baptism though but I assume you’re already baptized. Also, if you’re not and considering becoming a Catholic then you should wait to be baptized in a Catholic parish.

But anyway, just be respectful and reverent and of course be kind to others but don’t receive their version of communion or any of their sacraments or ordinances. If anyone asks you why then explain that you are Catholic or considering to become Catholic in a kind and respectful manner.
 
Allegra said:
Marriages are certainly considered valid, but I’m not sure if they’re considered sacramental. That’s a good question. My guess is ‘no’, simply because I’ve known former Lutheran couples who have gotten their marriage blessed/covalidated in the Church and I can’t think of any reason to do that if the Lutheran marriage was considered sacramental in the first place. On the other hand, those situations might have had more going on than I was aware and there might have been some other reason they needed to be covalidated. .
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They are sacramental as well.

catholic.com/quickquestions/which-protestant-sacraments-other-than-baptism-does-the-catholic-church-consider-vali
 
Holly3278 said:
I would be reverent but I would not genuflect to the altar or the tabernacle because Jesus is not there.
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On a lighter note :D, I remember as a teenager of daily Mass attendance (who had not been to the movies in a couple of years), going to the movie theater and genuflecting before going in to sit! :blushing: :tsktsk: Oh! I just wanted the earth to open up and swallow me! :rotfl: Small town. I was “the” and only lector at one of the Sunday Masses! People behind me chuckled. No one ever mentioned it afterward :clapping: – thanks be to God!! No. I was not being “reverent” to the screen! 😉
HeadingBackHome said:
  1. No I have never seen any kneelers in any of the Lutheran Churches Ive been to.
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Not all Catholic churches have kneelers either. I remember going to one huge church [Reyna or Nstra. Sra. del Carmen – cannot remember] that not only did not have kneelers, it did not have pews. I asked my Dad and he pointed to all the “theater” chairs staked in one area. The chairs were arranged for Mass, etc., and people kneel on the floor.

Luz Maria
 
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