Catholic bible recommendations

[wonderkid1]

Hi… i was wondering if anyone could offer me any recommendations for a catholic bible. I am trying to find one that is a) obviously catholic and follows all the catholics teachings/beliefs and b) one that has footnotes that will give some CATHOLIC explainations on each or most of the stories written in the bible. I know that there are some bibles out there that do this (like the NVI versions) but i was wondering if there was one that was catholic based.

Also another way off subject side question that i wanted to ask. Is it a sin to lift weights or exercise with weights on sundays? If it is a sin, is it mortal or venial?

thanks

 

[tobinatorstark]

I recommend the Douay-Rheims Haydock version with Commentary. This it the best you can get.

 

[wonderkid1]

is this version considered more difficult of a read? I am not trying to be picky, just want to get the most out of the bible i purchase.

 

[tobinatorstark]

is this version considered more difficult of a read? I am not trying to be picky, just want to get the most out of the bible i purchase.

Some see that it might be difficult to read. It was written in early modern English. The Douay-Rheims is the most Catholic Bible you can get it. It is word for word translation of the Latin Vulgate. Based on you description of wanting totally Catholic Bible that has a lot notes that Catholic like. The Haydock version with Commentary of the Douay-Rheims is it. There are other Catholic Bibles that provide plenty of notes. The NAB for example has notes not favorable to the Catholic Church and the Bible uses inclusive language. The NRSV also uses inclusive language. out these Catholic versions: Douay-Rheims Challoner, NAB, Jerusalem Bible, New Jerusalem Bible, RSV-CE, NRSV and Douay-Rheims Haydock with Commentary, I would recommend the Haydock with Commentary to best suite your needs. The Challoner text is great, but doesn’t have nearly the notes that the Haydock Commentary does have. The Jerusalem is alright and I am assuming that the New Jerusalem is just as good, but it really doesn’t suite your needs. The NAB as said before has terrible notes and inclusive language, but it has easy readability. The NRSV has probably the most inclusive language so I would avoid it. I don’t recommend the RSV-CE on the basis it derives from the Protestant RSV and I don’t quite agree with it to be honest. Although a lot of people seem to like it, it isn’t a true Catholic Bible in my opinion.

 

[wonderkid1]

The NAB for example has notes not favorable to the Catholic Church and the Bible uses inclusive language. The NRSV also uses inclusive language. out these Catholic versions: Douay-Rheims Challoner, NAB, Jerusalem Bible, New Jerusalem Bible, RSV-CE, NRSV and Douay-Rheims Haydock with Commentary, I would recommend the Haydock with Commentary to best suite your needs. The NAB as said before has terrible notes and inclusive language, but it has easy readability. The NRSV has probably the most inclusive language so I would avoid it.

Sorry, but what do you mean when you say INCLUSIVE language? Does that mean more difficult reading?

 

[wonderkid1]

I recommend the Douay-Rheims Haydock version with Commentary. This it the best you can get.

Does this book always come with commentary or does one have to seek out this bible with included commetary? Also do you have websites as two where i could get this book? thanks

 

[tobinatorstark]

Sorry, but what do you mean when you say INCLUSIVE language? Does that mean more difficult reading?

(linguistics) of, or relating to the first person plural pronoun when including the person being addressed. This is kinda detrimental in the Biblical world. But no it doesn’t mean its more difficult to read​

Does this book always come with commentary or does one have to seek out this bible with included commetary? Also do you have websites as two where i could get this book? thanks

Some Haydock Bibles come with and some without. They are pricey though at 125 dollars. I on the other hand have a Douay-Rheims Challoner text and use Haydock Bible Commentary online

Hear are some links to the Haydock Bible

store.stmichaelstore.com/douayhaybib.html
loretopubs.org/index.php?target=categories&category_id=16

The commentary for the Haydock is available online at this link

haydock1859.tripod.com/

If you want to use the Challoner text of the Douay-Rheims you can get one at many locations

www.baroniuspress.com

hope this helps

 

[RosaryGirl_777]

Hi… i was wondering if anyone could offer me any recommendations for a catholic bible. I am trying to find one that is a) obviously catholic and follows all the catholics teachings/beliefs and b) one that has footnotes that will give some CATHOLIC explainations on each or most of the stories written in the bible. I know that there are some bibles out there that do this (like the NVI versions) but i was wondering if there was one that was catholic based.

Also another way off subject side question that i wanted to ask. Is it a sin to lift weights or exercise with weights on sundays? If it is a sin, is it mortal or venial?

thanks

I’m looking for a good Catholic study Bible too , when you find a good one let me know

God want us to keep our bodies healthy. I don’t see it as a sin to work out on Sundays. (I’ve never read any thing stating that it would be a sin .) I think it would be ok & a good idea to do:thumbsup:

 

[RosaryGirl_777]

(linguistics) of, or relating to the first person plural pronoun when including the person being addressed. This is kinda detrimental in the Biblical world. But no it doesn’t mean its more difficult to read​

Some Haydock Bibles come with and some without. They are pricey though at 125 dollars. I on the other hand have a Douay-Rheims Challoner text and use Haydock Bible Commentary online

Hear are some links to the Haydock Bible

store.stmichaelstore.com/douayhaybib.html
loretopubs.org/index.php?target=categories&category_id=16

The commentary for the Haydock is available online at this link

haydock1859.tripod.com/

If you want to use the Challoner text of the Douay-Rheims you can get one at many locations

www.baroniuspress.com

hope this helps

The Douay-Rheims is wrtten in older English similar to the the King James Version

The Haydock Bible is it written in older English similar to the language used in the the King James Version too?

 

[DD2007]

Hi… i was wondering if anyone could offer me any recommendations for a catholic bible. I am trying to find one that is a) obviously catholic and follows all the catholics teachings/beliefs and b) one that has footnotes that will give some CATHOLIC explainations on each or most of the stories written in the bible. I know that there are some bibles out there that do this (like the NVI versions) but i was wondering if there was one that was catholic based.

Also another way off subject side question that i wanted to ask. Is it a sin to lift weights or exercise with weights on sundays? If it is a sin, is it mortal or venial?

thanks

If you are looking for one with good explainations the Douay Rheims Challoner with a Haydock commentary is the best bet for you.

If you just want scripture without explainations. The RSV-CE can’t be beat.

amazon.com/Douay-Rheims-Bible-Standard-Flexible-colour/dp/0954563115/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1228171508&sr=1-1

haydock1859.tripod.com/

amazon.com/Holy-Bible-Containing-Old-Testaments/dp/089870491X/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1228171666&sr=1-4

 

[RosaryGirl_777]

I found a website that has the Douay-Rheims Bible online so you can read some of the passages & see if its what your looking for.

drbo.org/

 

[tobinatorstark]

The Douay-Rheims is wrtten in older English similar to the the King James Version

The Haydock Bible is it written in older English similar to the language used in the the King James Version too?

I am pretty sure for the most part.

 

[RosaryGirl_777]

I am pretty sure for the most part.

Thanks

 

[manie]

thanks for the info folks:thumbsup:

 

[sbriton]

God want us to keep our bodies healthy. I don’t see it as a sin to work out on Sundays. (I’ve never read any thing stating that it would be a sin .) I think it would be ok & a good idea to do:thumbsup:

I agree. If you are working out/exercising for enjoyment and/or betterment of your health, that is what the “day of rest” is all about. As long as you’re not a father/mother and neglecting your family on their day of rest then it is a perfectly acceptable way to spend the Lord’s Day (starting with Mass!!!). If you are a parent/spouse then you should consider what the family wants to do on Sunday before attending to yourself. Seems to be the Christian way to me!

God bless and God be praised!

Simon

 

[Manfred]

The NRSV has probably the most inclusive language so I would avoid it. I don’t recommend the RSV-CE on the basis it derives from the Protestant RSV and I don’t quite agree with it to be honest. Although a lot of people seem to like it, it isn’t a true Catholic Bible in my opinion.

Toby,

I wholeheartedly support your statement to avoid the NRSV since it contains the most inclusive language of any of the bible versions approved for Catholics; to wit, in order of decreasing use of inclusive langauge: NRSV, RNAB, NJB.

However, if you still feel that the RSV-CE is not “a true Catholic bible”, I fail to see why you don’t feel the same about the NRSV. After all, the (Protestant) National Council of the Churches of Christ in the USA holds the copyright to both of these. The Catholic Biblical Association of Great Britain edited the RSV for Catholic use, but no such group has done this for the NRSV.

You might argue that the CBA of GB which edited the RSV (translated exclusively by Protestants) and gave us the RSV-CE didn’t go far enough with their alterations and corrections, and I would subscribe to that. But I would also put forth that the NRSV had both Protestants and Catholics on its team and the end result is not at all suitable for Catholic use, the decision of the Canadian bishops notwithstanding.

 

[tobinatorstark]

Toby,

I wholeheartedly support your statement to avoid the NRSV since it contains the most inclusive language of any of the bible versions approved for Catholics; to wit, in order of decreasing use of inclusive langauge: NRSV, RNAB, NJB.

However, if you still feel that the RSV-CE is not “a true Catholic bible”, I fail to see why you don’t feel the same about the NRSV. After all, the (Protestant) National Council of the Churches of Christ in the USA holds the copyright to both of these. The Catholic Biblical Association of Great Britain edited the RSV for Catholic use, but no such group has done this for the NRSV.

You might argue that the CBA of GB which edited the RSV (translated exclusively by Protestants) and gave us the RSV-CE didn’t go far enough with their alterations and corrections, and I would subscribe to that. But I would also put forth that the NRSV had both Protestants and Catholics on its team and the end result is not at all suitable for Catholic use, the decision of the Canadian bishops notwithstanding.

I do feel the same way about the NRSV. I just tend to use the RSV-CE as reference because it seems more people tend to use the RSV-CE and than NRSV. There are a lot of people gun hoe about the the RSV in general.

 

[Manfred]

There are a lot of people gung-ho about the RSV in general.

Toby,

Consider how those Bible versions approved for Catholic use range when it comes to formal equivalence vs dynamic equivalence.

Here is how I would rank them, with the most formal-equivalent being on top, the most dynamic-equivalent at the bottom:

Douay-Rheims-Challoner (notwithstanding its Vg base, it’s VERY formal)
RSV-xCE (balances traditionalism with readability)
NAB (1970) (hey, at least it’s non-inclusive!)
NJB (1985) (much more consistent than its predecessor)
NRSV (only faintly maintains the Tyndale-King James tradition)
RNAB (1986, 1990) (epitomizes banality)
JB (1966) (“Simon, son of John, you are a happy man!”)

 

[tobinatorstark]

Toby,

Consider how those Bible versions approved for Catholic use range when it comes to formal equivalence vs dynamic equivalence.

Here is how I would rank them, with the most formal-equivalent being on top, the most dynamic-equivalent at the bottom:

Douay-Rheims-Challoner (notwithstanding its Vg base, it’s VERY formal)
RSV-xCE (balances traditionalism with readability)
NAB (1970) (hey, at least it’s non-inclusive!)
NJB (1985) (much more consistent than its predecessor)
NRSV (only faintly maintains the Tyndale-King James tradition)
RNAB (1986, 1990) (epitomizes banality)
JB (1966) (“Simon, son of John, you are a happy man!”)

Good observation. I am still just trying to accept the RSV-CE. I know it may seem like I am gun ho on the Douay-Rheims, but it isn’t the only translation I like. I also find the Confraternity Edition and Ronald Knox Translation quite well

 

[Manfred]

Good observation. I am still just trying to accept the RSV-CE. I know it may seem like I am gung-ho on the Douay-Rheims, but it isn’t the only translation I like. I also find the Confraternity Edition and Ronald Knox Translation quite well

Thanks, Toby.

Might I recommend you read some of the most recent of Jerry Parker’s posts in the “Confraternity Bible” thread? With style and grace, he accurately characterizes what it is about the RSV(-CE) that frequently puts some of us off. And he rightfully heaps praise on the trustworthiness of the Clementine Vulgate and the excellence of Challoner’s revisions of the venerable Douay-Rheims.