Catholic Bible Verus Saint James Version

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What is the recommend Bible reading closest to the "Textus Receptus? My wife who is Prostant reads the Saint. James version. In our religious discussions she tells me to start reading the Bible,I fully intend to do so but I want to read the Catholic Interpretation I am confused in which to read. What about the "New American Standard Bible? I would appericiate any (name removed by moderator)ut .🤷
 
What is the recommend Bible reading closest to the "Textus Receptus? My wife who is Prostant reads the Saint. James version. In our religious discussions she tells me to start reading the Bible,I fully intend to do so but I want to read the Catholic Interpretation I am confused in which to read. What about the "New American Standard Bible? I would appericiate any (name removed by moderator)ut .🤷
So your wife reads the King James Version and wants you to read. You want a Catholic version to read. The New American Standard Bible is Protestant. I can’t tell you what manuscripts were used in translation of the Catholic Bible. As far as English translations are concerned the Douay-Rheims is the closest to the King James Version. The KJV barrowed heavily from the Rheims NT released in 1582. The Douay-Rheims was released before the KJV. Note the Catholic Bible has 7 more books Tobias, Judith, I Machabees, II Machabees, Baruch, Wisdom, Ecclesiasticus. If you aren’t into early modern English I suggest you start with either the Jerusalem Bible or the New American BIble. They are fairly easy to read, but they aren’t the best of Bibles.
 
What is the recommend Bible reading closest to the "Textus Receptus? My wife who is Prostant reads the Saint. James version. In our religious discussions she tells me to start reading the Bible,I fully intend to do so but I want to read the Catholic Interpretation I am confused in which to read. What about the "New American Standard Bible? I would appericiate any (name removed by moderator)ut .🤷
The Textus Receptus is heavily defective and is no longer considered a reliable source text. The best sources today are critical editions compiled from the oldest and best manuscripts. If you want something of the King James tradition useful for Catholics, the RSV is the closest you can get. The Douay dates back to the same era as the KJV, so you may want that as well.
 
I would read the Douay Rheims if I were you, that would give you a Catholic version that would allow you to relate with your wife as she uses the KJV.

The textus receptus- so-called “received text” is a Greek text of the New Testament. It’s fine but there are better Greek texts, but that is really not an issue unless you plan on reading the NT in Greek.
 
Thank you for the information. I diffidently will buy the Douay-Rheims.
It will be interesting to review interprepretations that she finds verusus what I find in the Douay-Rheims Scriptures.👍
 
Thank you for the information. I diffidently will buy the Douay-Rheims.
It will be interesting to review interprepretations that she finds verusus what I find in the Douay-Rheims Scriptures.👍
While you’re at it, there is a version of the Douay-Rheims Bible that includes what’s known as the “Haydock Commentary”, written by a priest in the mid-1800s. It’s still one of the best Catholic study Bibles around, as it includes copious references as to what the Early Church Fathers had to say about particular passages. Just search for “Haydock Douay-Rhiems”. It’s also available online.
 
While you’re at it, there is a version of the Douay-Rheims Bible that includes what’s known as the “Haydock Commentary”, written by a priest in the mid-1800s. It’s still one of the best Catholic study Bibles around, as it includes copious references as to what the Early Church Fathers had to say about particular passages. Just search for “Haydock Douay-Rhiems”. It’s also available online.
here is that site

haydock1859.tripod.com/
 
I don’t think I’ve ever heard King James I referred to as “Saint” James before. 😉
 
There is nothing to be embarrassed about, I wish I had a dollar for every time I made similar mistakes.
Thank you for the information, I certainly will do some research there as well. I need all of the help and suggestions I can get… Thank you:thumbsup: 🙂
 
Thank you for the information, I certainly will do some research there as well. I need all of the help and suggestions I can get… Thank you:thumbsup: 🙂
If you need any help or have any questions please feel free to ask, I will help you any way I can. You can contact me through my website or here, I am available for any assistance.
 
I converted to Catholicism 30 years ago this year at age 17. Growing up as a Methodist I used the KJV, but switched to the New American as a Catholic. Having said that I must admit that at every Christmas I must read the nativity story in Luke from the King James. Nothing else sounds quite right…
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And it came to pass in those days, that there went out a decree from Caesar Augustus, that all the world should be taxed. And this taxing was first made when Cyrenius was governor of Syria.
And all went to be taxed, every one into his own city.
And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judaea, unto the city of David, which is called Bethlehem; (because he was of the house and lineage of David)
To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being great with child.
And so it was, that, while they were there, the days were accomplished that she should be delivered.
And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the inn.
And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night. And, lo, the angel of the Lord came upon them, and the glory of the Lord shone round about them: and they were sore afraid.
And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people. For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord. And this shall be a sign unto you; Ye shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger. And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying, Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men.* 🙂
 
I converted to Catholicism 30 years ago this year at age 17. Growing up as a Methodist I used the KJV, but switched to the New American as a Catholic. Having said that I must admit that at every Christmas I must read the nativity story in Luke from the King James. Nothing else sounds quite right…
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And it came to pass in those days, that there went out a decree from Caesar Augustus, that all the world should be taxed. And this taxing was first made when Cyrenius was governor of Syria.
And all went to be taxed, every one into his own city.
And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judaea, unto the city of David, which is called Bethlehem; (because he was of the house and lineage of David)
To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being great with child.
And so it was, that, while they were there, the days were accomplished that she should be delivered.
And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the inn.
And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night. And, lo, the angel of the Lord came upon them, and the glory of the Lord shone round about them: and they were sore afraid.
And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people. For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord. And this shall be a sign unto you; Ye shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger. And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying, Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men.* 🙂
I would invest in a Douay-Rheims if you are that passionate about the Nativity in the KJV and seem to think the others lack. The Douay-Rheims reads pretty much the same. As stated in a post in this thead above, the KJV borrowed heavily from the Rheims NT. By all means continue to read the New American as well.
 
I would invest in a Douay-Rheims if you are that passionate about the Nativity in the KJV and seem to think the others lack. The Douay-Rheims reads pretty much the same. As stated in a post in this thead above, the KJV borrowed heavily from the Rheims NT. By all means continue to read the New American as well.
Please forgive me. I was waxing nostalgic. I did not mean to imply that other versions were lacking. The King James Bible is an English language classic what ever ones theology, and I appreciate it’s elegant prose. Sorry. So much for “Good will toward men”, heh?😉
 
If you want a bible with language closer to the King James than the Douay Rheims is your best bet. Similar old style but more accurate in my op.

drbo.org/ 1899 version

For something with the Thys etc but not as archaic you might try the Confraternity bible from the 1950s. I just ordered a second hand copy, many people on this forum love it so hope its good, sure it will be.

For a more basic, yet not a dull translation, you could try the Jerusalem Bible (not the New JB though similar).

catholic.org/bible/ New JB trans

While Luke 1:28 irks me with the JB, all three are solid Catholic translations.

With the Douay you may hear/read that it was based on the Latin, but it was compared to the Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic and corrected where necessary and anyway the King James was based on the Bishop’s Bible from years earlier.
 
Please forgive me. I was waxing nostalgic. I did not mean to imply that other versions were lacking. The King James Bible is an English language classic what ever ones theology, and I appreciate it’s elegant prose. Sorry. So much for “Good will toward men”, heh?😉
“on earth, peace, good will toward men” is an incorrect translation anyway. The proper translation is “on earth, peace to men of good will.”

But then, that is probably not as bad as “peace to his people on earth”, which we suffer through every Sunday.
 
The King James Bible is a gelded version of the real Bible. Go with the Catholic Bible a.k.a. New American or Douay-Rheims Bible.
 
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