Don’t play bate and switch. You said the OP was “a lot nicer” than you would have been.How do you equate not being silent with chewing out?
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Oooh I would have had to laugh, and then say, "Well, you’ll need to get rid of all these Bibles then! You do realize that in the Bible when ever it refers to the Church. It is refering to the Catholic Church which Jesus Christ instituted? The Catholic Church lived the New Testament, then taught it, and wrote it down. the Catholic Church then compiled the Bible, and gave it to the world. THE BIBLE IS CATHOLIC TEACHING. Catholics have been following Jesus Christ for over 2000 years. That’s where the term Christian comes from. Christian=follower of Christ=Catholics.So now that I’ve calmed a wee bit, I will explain my experience yesterday at a local “CHRISTIAN” book store.
I was looking for some index tabs for my new bible, given to me by the Church. I’m in RCIA. I was also looking for a card for a couple whom recently had a new baby. I entered the store, and picked out the card.
I found lots of index cards, but noticed there were none that had ALL the books of the bible included, but I had previously found some online, so I know they are out there.
I concluded they didn’t have any, so I proceeded to the checkout. When the sales clerk asked if I had found everything ok, I then asked about the index tabs for the Catholic Bible. He looked it up, and said he could order them for me, but they were not allowed to have any CATHOLIC material in the store, as it is supported by the Baptist Association.
I was floored, but as usual, I am totally speechless in confrontational situations.
My response was, “OK”, but instead of paying for the card, I said “thank you”, and just left. I could not quite bring myself to spend any money there, let along ordering the index tabs.
Of course, on the way out of the store, I looked up at sign again, that said “??? CHRISTIAN book store”. I have also noticed that these bookstores are all across the USA.
The fact that they didn’t sell Catholic Bible tabs, didn’t bother me. What bothered me most was the fact that they are not allowed to sell anything Catholic in this store and told me about this fact. Christian = Catholic. I so wish I’d have told him that Catholics ARE Christians.
Ok I feel better now. thanks for letting me vent.
How is walking out rude? And your other comments to TexanKnight was pretty uncharitable.The OP was pretty rude, walking out without any explanation.
Not bait and switch. You made a claim, seemingly without reason. You claim it was rude to leave. She was an invitee. A duty is owed TO her, not BY her. She could leave as she chose.Don’t play bate and switch. You said the OP was “a lot nicer” than you would have been.
The OP was pretty rude, walking out without any explanation, so I can only infer your response would have been “a lot” more rude.
thank youHow is walking out rude? And your other comments to TexanKnight was pretty uncharitable.
You’re welcome.thank you
Good point. Within about 70 miles of my home are Catholic, Orthodox, Mormon, and Protestant-oriented bookstores. All of these stores are rather selective about what they carry, even some of the Protestant stores are narrower than others, such as one not stocking anything that is not oriented toward Calvinism. There’s nothing wrong with any of that; you get to know the stores in your area and go to the ones that carry what you need. In the case of the OP’s incident, there’s also nothing wrong with a person’s expressing surprise at an unexpected policy and letting the clerk know that he will not be wanting to support them with his purchasing dollars.I know this example probably won’t help but try and think of it in this way: what if a Protestant came into a Catholic bookstore looking for Bible Tabs or looking for a new NIV Bible or something, the Protestant would have gotten the same response that they do not sell anything Protestant in the store but they would order them for him.
Now I know my example probably didn’t help, or it may have made your venting even worsebut I can understand both points of view.
I was mistaken about the situation. I read the OP’s post as saying, "couldn’t bring myself to say ‘thank-you’ ", instead of not being able to make the purchase, which would have been rude. The OP did however say thank-you, appropriately acknowledging the teller’s explanation, rather than just storming out.Not bait and switch. You made a claim, seemingly without reason. You claim it was rude to leave. She was an invitee. A duty is owed TO her, not BY her. She could leave as she chose.
Based on your narrow idea rudeness, I suppose I would have been horrible in your eyes.
But then, based on that, I am guess you believe Jesus was unbelievably rude chasing the vendors from the temple.
No problem at all. The written word is hard to judge…without the facial expressions, etc, intent and feelings are hard to measure.I was mistaken about the situation. I read the OP’s post as saying, "couldn’t bring myself to say ‘thank-you’ ", instead of not being able to make the purchase, which would have been rude. The OP did however say thank-you, appropriately acknowledging the teller’s explanation, rather than just storming out.
I apologize for jumping on you.
Just wanted to say that the Family Christian store in my city has a small Catholic section, as does the Berean Christian store. We don’t have LifeWay so I can’t comment on it.The LifeWay Christian Bookstore is run by the Southern Baptist Convention and used to be called The Baptist Bookstore. They are strongly against carrying anything Catholic.
The Family Christian Bookstore is run by Zondervan.
I was hesitant to say this here, but I agree with this. I sympathize with the OP if his feelings were hurt. But, I would have simply taken the “XYZ Christian Bookstore” to indicate that it was not, say, a New Age bookstore, an Islamic bookstore, a general bookstore, etc.I guess I just gotta take my lone position against the crowd here. I don’t think I would’ve been as upset in this situation, and I certainly wouldn’t consider this an act of persecution. The clerk informed the patron that members of a specific denomination own the establishment and do not allow particularly Catholic material to be on display, yet would be happy to go through the trouble of ordering it on your behalf. Refusing to display paraphernalia of a particular denomination doesn’t necessarily equate to excluding said denomination from being included under the “Christian” umbrella, anymore than the Rite of Christian Initiation for Adults not providing for, say, Anglican Confirmation implies that the Catholic Church does not consider Protestants in general (or Anglicans specifically) as Christians. Furthermore, I have been in “Christian” bookstores which upon entry were obviously gift-shops operated by the local Catholic parish. Surprise, surprise! No Protestant books anywhere to be found. Personally, I think the OP is being just a wee bit too touchy.
Frankly, this seems like an attitude of entitlement to me.I would let it be known what kind of “Christian” book store they are. I would stand out front with a sign saying “X- store is anti-catholic” or “Non-christian book store” with my Catholic friends. Hurt them where it counts, their bottom line.
Am I the only one here who thinks this Protestant bookstore is right? If the shoe were on the other foot, I’d be pretty put out if I found a KJV in a Catholic bookstore.I then asked about the index tabs for the Catholic Bible. He looked it up, and said he could order them for me, but they were not allowed to have any CATHOLIC material in the store, as it is supported by the Baptist Association.
Are we not Christians also? This bookstore is misleading people into thinking they are an All Christian store when in fact they are not and are in it for the profits, plain and simple. Am I entitled to anything, no. Im just speaking my mind.Frankly, this seems like an attitude of entitlement to me.