Catholic Church Sex Abuse Scandal Is Demonic, Likely to Get Worse: Leading U.S. Exorcist

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You are of course, totally correct about people being held accountable. It is time for some mass excommunications. And I think a certain ethnic Italian should abdicate a certain throne.
 
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This seems rather convenient. It’s literally “the devil made me do it.”
 
1 Peter 5:8 Be sober and vigilant. Your opponent the devil is prowling around like a roaring lion looking for [someone] to devour.

Sometimes the translation says, “Your accuser, the devil…” The accuser who reveals the evil that humans do in order to destroy faith, cause doubt and make victims suffer more. Doesn’t mean at all that the priests involved are not culpable, they are. As are Bishops who covered it up and shifted the perpetrators to another parish. But the whole matter smacks of demonic attack.
 
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If you read the article, it doesn’t seem this is Fr. Thomas’ argument.

He claims drug dealers are demonic. He claims ISIS is demonic. He claims most murder is demonic. He puts cover-up bishops in the company of terrorists, drug dealers, and murderers.

He also says this:
"[There] has to be a complete reshaping of the paradigm of the way our Church governs; we need a complete cleaning up. We need a lay commission to set up an independent study. The bishops can’t do it; they don’t know how to do it.”

It seems like this dude is reform-minded. I think Francis’ statement sounds like he is trying to mitigate culpability. Fr. Thomas (though I have my own opinions on him) doesn’t sound like he is trying to mitigate the culpability of guilty parties.
 
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Whether we like it or not, the behaviour of every Catholic is used by non-Catholics to judge the Catholic Church. I heard a business owner say once that one bad customer doesn’t more damage to a business’ reputation than ten good customers can repair.
 
There also seems to be a reluctance to point the finger at homosexuals. I have a friend who has documented every known case of sexual abuse in the Church and claims that 93% of the cases were of a homosexual nature. That is very telling. It also means allowing priests to marry will make maybe only 7% of a difference to the problem.
 
The number of people in the world who are demonically possessed may be very small relative to the number of people who are demonically influenced. If you ask me, there is an abnormally large degree of demonic influence in the world today.
 
I wouldn’t blame you.
It is off topic anyway , this thread is about the exorcist priest. Forget it.
 
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2towers said:
So you don’t believe in demons, or that they have any influence is that right?
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@2towers, this is a cheap shot.

Your question is inanswerable, because it contains two contradictory clauses. I can either not believe in demons OR not believe they have any influence, but cannot rationally hold both positions.

I believe that the church can vanquish Satan from earth with mere prayer. If the sexual molestation is demonic, then the church could have prevented it with a few key prayers of exorcism.

Either the gates of Hell prevailed against the church by not performing a mere exorcism, or she is dealing with human failure and human evil. I believe that latter, and blaming the former is ducking responsibility.
 
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If the sexual molestation is demonic, then the church could have prevented it with a few key prayers of exorcism.
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Perhaps it was the few key prayers that were dispensed with in the 1960’s, such as the St. Michael prayer at Mass, that opened the door to the demonic.
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Either the gates of Hell prevailed against the church by not performing a mere exorcism, or she is dealing with human failure and human evil.
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It was promised that the gates of hell would not prevail against the Church but it was not promised that the gates of hell would not attack the Church. The Church is not gone yet. Evil has not won, so the gates of hell have not prevailed even though evil attacks.

I also agree that there is human failure or human evil at play here, in that these human’s sinned. They listened to evil. Temptations come from within us and outside of us.
 
The Church sex abuse scandal is demonic, in that the people who are in the Church and are doing the evil things they are doing, are listening to the demonic and succombing to temptation.

 
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@MagdalenaRita

Perhaps multitudes of prayers were missing? Not just quick St Michael’s prayers at the end of Mass, but prayers for or priests and bishops, who are in more dangerous positions spiritually than we are.

I am not excluding myself from this. I certainly could have prayed more for my priests. It is easy to take our priests for granted, to assume they will always be there.
 
I think that very few in the world know how to handle the demonic aspects of what has been done. To say there is a demonic component in no way relieves the perpetrators from guilt; it is more like saying that some people went over to the enemy, like Frenchwomen hanging out with the Nazis to get silk stockings, but on a much larger scale.

Were these quislings culpable for their fall into temptation? Of course! And did the fact they were tempted reduce their guilt? Of course not!

This is evidence of God’s enemy. We should take note and beware of what he might be doing to us.
 
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setarcos said:
Why shouldn’t the one who sees another being raped but walks on be judged as morally depraved as the one doing the rape?
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This quote made me think of that case in the news this week of Elizabeth Smart’s captors (the woman is being let out of prison early due to some time served…) sorry to get off topic… but it made me think that yes one who sees another and (encourages) just walks on is just as guilty…
 
runningdude said:
this is a cheap shot.
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I am sorry you feel that way, I think, having read your text it is a legitimate question. I certainly did not mean it as a cheap shot.
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I believe that the church can vanquish Satan from earth with mere prayer.
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It is pretty clear to me, even though we are both Catholic, our idea of spiritual warfare is vastly different. I have read the writings of many different Saints and I never found in clear cut prayer from the “church” that could vanquish Satan, just like that, and I have read a lot. I mean it. In fact the disconnect of what I have found, and your statement I have quoted are so large, I would not know where to begin in a single post, or several posts for that matter.
 
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Took him this long to recognize such activity in the Church? I could’ve told 'em that long ago. Gotta root out that evil for a pure healed Church once again.
 
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