So basically you ARE saying that you just accepted that media report without bothering to find out what the Church said about it. . .
No Tantrum, I don’t read Latin. I did not summarize them. The dates are there, along with the title of the bull and the name of the Pope. Feel free to look them up and tell us if you disagree with the summaries.
Nice try as misdirection there… so you don’t deny the report.
DIsingenuous. They are 'where?" From which web site did you take this list, Rock?
Here is a catholic apologetics page which mentions many of those bulls. Hard to believe that this is the first time you are hearing of the history of Catholic antisemitism.
(from the Special Number - 1939. of the International Review of Secret Societies. Paris, France)
The ‘report’ has nothing to do with the changing of Church teaching.
Nice try. I asked you a direct question. The news report I heard was on the BBC which has a high degree of accuracy. You failed to answer my question. Was the report true or was it false? Answer please, and not with a question, with an answer which has more authority than the BBC which does verify its stories.
I asked YOU to open a separate thread.
so your own tactics are not bullying, but when they are turned around on you they are. Very interesting. We can drop this, as we are at a stopping point. Your position would be that the moral actions of a person or institution have no bearing on their moral authority as a teacher of morality, as long as the magesterium is in agreement. I would disagree, and claim that in order to have moral authority, a moral leader and a moral institution should act morally. I would posit (to use an extreme example) the Hitler is not a moral teacher because of his immoral acts. You would say, that he could very well be infallible while the ovens were running, as long as he had certain authority behind him. Am I misstating your position? I find this very incongruous, if I understand you.
Theology: From the Greek, = The Study of God
+Scandals = behavior.
I was sniffing around to get a sense of what papal authority is, and I was surprised by these. Previously, I was under the mistaken impression that ghettos for Jews, deprivation of a means to live, and marking them with a badge had been new to the 20th century. It turns out that the Church may have invented those ideas.
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Is this too uncomfortable an issue for you? I guess Rock Happy can start at thread on this if you would like. I would like too, but He has alot more knowledge about this it seems.
The reason you and others are hoping for this to happen, is because way deeeep down inside, you know I and others are correct in our views. That is what you fear. That somehow you may actually on some level, be forced to agree. Even if you do not do so publicly. Think it does not happen? I have already had it happen here, where people who shall remain nameless, agree with me, Yet debate against me publicly. They fear their own. And do not wish to be nailed on CAF. Cant say that I blame them. Its not easy putting your neck out there. And its not easy taking an unpopular view. I never have sought popularity anyhow, so its What ever.
Not taunting or insulting you. Just making an observation. Taunts and insults would be cussing someone out, calling them a tool of the devil, or playing the devil, all of which has happened to me. I dont really take it personally. Fundamentalist Muslims do the same thing when they feel threatened. Its in a fundamentalist nature to resort to personal attacks when they are being beaten in the arena of idea. Yall use the same tactics of the ultra left. Im surprised your two sides dont get along more.
No, I question. Why are you so afraid of people who Question? What is your fear? Are you afraid to examine yourself, and your beliefs? Heres another thing. If A Bishop by himself is failable, then a group of Bishops is a failable group. There is no way they are Infailable. sorry.My apologies, I thought your post said “baptist” and not “former baptist.”
Actually, you’re not a “Catholic who questions,” you are a “Catholic who protests against the Church’s teaching authority” – a.k.a., a Protestant.
I am, however, a former Protestant (ELCA) who believes 100% in the teaching authority of the Church as established by Jesus Christ.
Ya know Rock. I dont think they even realize what they are doing. Or if they do, then that is truly messed up.
