Catholic Churches in Communion with Rome

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According to Wikipedia, there are 23 “Eastern Christian particular churches sui iuris in full communion” with Rome.

Even the Italo-Albanian Catholic Church, which is headquartered in Italy, is Eastern.

Are there non-Roman particular churches sui juris in full communion with Rome that aren’t Eastern?
 
The Ambrosian rite,perhaps? They’re utterly tiny, and I’m not even sure that they’re sui iuris
 
Maximilian75 said:
The Ambrosian rite,perhaps? They’re utterly tiny, and I’m not even sure that they’re sui iuris
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Not even close. They are entirely a part of the Latin Church. It’s just that that particular diocese has long used a different rite for the Mass, and has been permitted to do so, even after Trent abolished almost all of the other rites of the Latin Church.
 
Thank you! This is the sort of documentation I’ve been searching for for a long time.
 
The three Ordinariates established for former Anglicans are part of the Latin Church but do have their own Liturgy, patrimony, and disciplines (such as the ordination of married men to the priesthood). The archdioceses of Milan and Toledo are very much part of the Latin Church but have their own local liturgical rites (which are used along side the OF Roman Rite).
 
on_the_hill said:
According to Wikipedia, there are 23 “Eastern Christian particular churches sui iuris in full communion” with Rome.

Even the Italo-Albanian Catholic Church, which is headquartered in Italy, is Eastern.

Are there non-Roman particular churches sui juris in full communion with Rome that aren’t Eastern?
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No . The non Roman Rites of the Latin Church are still part of the Latin Church and fall under the Patriarch of the West (Bishop of Rome).

Now, there were/are other western patriarchs in the Latin Church, so I don’t know if there ever was the potential for some of them to become their own sui juris Churches, but it never happened.

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There still are Western Patriarchs, but it’s an honorary title that confers no privilege beyond that of any other metropolitan. Venice and Jerusalem are two examples of existing Latin patriarchates.

That being said, local national churches and provinces enjoyed far more autonomy in times past under the guidance of the local synods.
 
twf said:
There still are Western Patriarchs
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You learn something new every day. I’ve checked, and there are indeed currently four: Venice, Jerusalem, Lisbon and the East Indies. Although, as you have said, these titles are honorary.
 
on_the_hill said:
Are there non-Roman particular churches sui juris in full communion with Rome that aren’t Eastern?
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I don’t know of any but there is a the SSPX which is in an irregular situation.
People in the SSPX are not excommunicated from the Roman Catholic Church, so in a way they are in communion with Rome, they are not eastern, and they have their own rules and regulations. For example, they have their own method of deciding marriage annulments and who may or may not use NFP. But they are not exactly a particular church sui juris and their union with Rome is not a full union as they have issues with Vatican II and the OF Mass. Perhaps they are semi-schismatic ?
I don’t know much about the Polish National Catholic Church but that is another separate western Church which is close to the Roman Church, but not in full communion with Rome although it does seek full communion with the Roman Catholic Church. It has about 25,000 members.
 
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Are there non-Roman particular churches sui juris in full communion with Rome that aren’t Eastern?
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I don’t know of any but there is a the SSPX which is in an irregular situation.
People in the SSPX are not excommunicated from the Roman Catholic Church, so in a way they are in communion with Rome, they are not eastern, and they have their own rules and regulations. For example, they have their own method of deciding marriage annulments and who may or may not use NFP. But they are not exactly a particular church sui juris and their union with Rome is not a full union as they have issues with Vatican II and the OF Mass. Perhaps they are semi-schismatic ?
I don’t know much about the Polish National Catholic Church but that is another separate western Church which is close to the Roman Church, but not in full communion with Rome although it does seek full communion with the Roman Catholic Church. It has about 25,000 members.
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That is a completely different situation.

No laypersons are members of the SSPX–only clerics.

It’s one of the word-games they use to manipulate the law. Because they deny having lay members they avoid the legal definition of schism.

Also, only individual persons can be excommunicated (although that can certainly happen in the plural.) Groups or societies as such cannot be excommunicated.
 
AndrewAxland said:
The term “Patriarch of the West” was abandoned by Pope Benedict XVI, and is no longer used.
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Yes, I know.
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There were? Please fill me in.
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Patriarch of Aquileia created as a Patriarch in 560, suppressed in 1751

Patriarch of Grado created as a Patriarch in 570, suppressed in 1451 to create the Patriarch of Venezia

Patriarch of Venezia (Venice) created in 1451 after the suppression of Grado. Still exists today.

Patriarch of Lisboa (Lisbon) promoted to Patriarchal See in 1716. Still exists today.

Patriarch of Jerusalem promoted to Patriarchal See in 451, Restored as Patriarchal See in 1099, Demoted to Titular Patriarchal See in 1295, Restored as Patriarchal See in 1847

Plus, there are two Titular Patriarchal Sees which were created to have a role (similar to Lisbon), but were not tied to a diocese.

First was the one created for the Spanish Empire in the New World due to the discovery of the New World called Patriarch of Indias Occidentales (West Indies) in 1524. But this one was not tied to a specific dioceses. Many different Bishops and Archbishops held that position, including the Archbishop of Mexico City. While this one still exists, it’s been vacant since 1963.

And finally, there is Patriarch of East Indies which is tied to the Archbishop of Goa and Daman, but not tied to the Archidiocese. This was done primary for created for historical & political reasons.

***NOTE: I’m not including the 3 suppressed Titular Roman Patriarchs of Alexandria, Antioch & Constantinople.
 
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twf said:
There still are Western Patriarchs, but it’s an honorary title that confers no privilege beyond that of any other metropolitan.
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Yes, this is true today. But those positions were originally created for a purpose (except for the East Indies which was mainly political).

Lisbon and the West Indies were created to be the primates over the entire Portuguese Empire and the Spanish colonies.
 
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Thanks a big bunch! I was suspecting Aquileia. Didn’t know about the others. You’ve given me great leads to explore!
 
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The PNCC is a totally separate denomination. Now they usually identify as National Catholic Church, except when they advertise in the Polish weekly paper.
 
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