Catholic college hosting Tarot Card and Palm readings

[sidbrown]

Colleges run on hierarchies of command.

“I have voiced my concerns and explained why things such as tarot cards and palm readings are sins according to the Catholic Church.”

Go one step farther up the chain of command and hand them a copy of the Catechism of the Catholic Church:

Divination and magic

2115 God can reveal the future to his prophets or to other saints. Still, a sound Christian attitude consists in putting oneself confidently into the hands of Providence for whatever concerns the future, and giving up all unhealthy curiosity about it. Improvidence, however, can constitute a lack of responsibility.

2116 All forms of divination are to be rejected: recourse to Satan or demons, conjuring up the dead or other practices falsely supposed to “unveil” the future.48 Consulting horoscopes, astrology, palm reading, interpretation of omens and lots, the phenomena of clairvoyance, and recourse to mediums all conceal a desire for power over time, history, and, in the last analysis, other human beings, as well as a wish to conciliate hidden powers. They contradict the honor, respect, and loving fear that we owe to God alone.

2117 All practices of magic or sorcery, by which one attempts to tame occult powers, so as to place them at one’s service and have a supernatural power over others - even if this were for the sake of restoring their health - are gravely contrary to the virtue of religion. These practices are even more to be condemned when accompanied by the intention of harming someone, or when they have recourse to the intervention of demons. Wearing charms is also reprehensible. Spiritism often implies divination or magical practices; the Church for her part warns the faithful against it. Recourse to so-called traditional cures does not justify either the invocation of evil powers or the exploitation of another’s credulity

Why are Catholic colleges getting into this?

 

[viveret]

lol, this is ridiculous. This is all in good fun.

And I am sure this is going to be the exact response you are going to get from whoever you talk to.

No.
Someone in religious authority must put a hard brake down here.
Divination and magical practices have no business in a Church institution.
These things open doors that can be extremely hard to close.
I pray for the petitioner’s success.

 

[John_of_Woking]

Hamburgler is assured of my prayers…you are storing up treasures in Heaven…even if you are unsuccesful the Lord will reward your faithfulness.

To anyone who says this is Harmless fun…the occult?

Try telling that to those potentially (i still pray for universal salvation ) frying in hell as a result of new age/occultist praxis.

 

[alongexpected]

Oh, so you’ve seen or talked to these people that are"frying in Hell" and know they’re there?

 

[Rence]

As part of a “Fall Fest” day long program at my Catholic college taking place in late October, there will be “Tarot Card Readings and Palmistry.” I have voiced my concerns and explained why things such as tarot cards and palm readings are sins according to the Catholic Church. The response I was given was that it was “harmless fun” and that the people doing the tarot card readings and palm readings will be “acting and it is just for show.”

I still don’t like the idea of a Catholic College encouraging its students to take part in the occult. Should I continue to object to this and pursue it further, or am I overreacting and simply should let it be?

I think there is a very big difference between playing with ouiji boards and bringing in bogus tarot card and palm readers as part of Fall Fest, which includes Halloween. I just wouldn’t participate if it bothers you that much.

But for what it’s worth, if it bothers you that much, of course you can complain, as high up as you want. But IMOHO (since you asked), I think you’re blowing it way out of proportion and giving way too much attention to it. Those things are “just for show”. They’re not real. You’re giving them way too much credence…

 

[Rence]

They are not playing a card game with Tarot cards. They are doing Tarot Card Readings, as advertised in the schedule. This is occult tarot, not a pack of 78 cards used to play French Tarot.

I request the prays of everyone here as I have my meeting tomorrow. I have social anxiety issues, and so this was very hard for me to do, and will be even harder for me to meet with the Provost in person and present my concerns.

I will pray for you, because I think it’s very brave for you to try to tackle your social anxiety issues. What better way than to fight for something you believe in. Just bring a copy of the CCC, say a prayer to the Holy Spirit before you go to speak to him, and be polite and non-confrontational. You can do it because it means that much to you. If you get no where, contact your Bishop, and then after that, give it to God.

Even though I think this is harmless, I wish you luck Hamburglar, and I’ll pray for you

 

[Bookcat]

As part of a “Fall Fest” day long program at my Catholic college taking place in late October, there will be “Tarot Card Readings and Palmistry.” I have voiced my concerns and explained why things such as tarot cards and palm readings are sins according to the Catholic Church. The response I was given was that it was “harmless fun” and that the people doing the tarot card readings and palm readings will be “acting and it is just for show.”

I still don’t like the idea of a Catholic College encouraging its students to take part in the occult. Should I continue to object to this and pursue it further, or am I overreacting and simply should let it be?

Such should not be done…and even “just for fun” it is not good and can open the door even to demonic influences etc…(Exorcists will tell you…)

Such should not happen. Period.

 

[John_of_Woking]

Oh, so you’ve seen or talked to these people that are"frying in Hell" and know they’re there?

If you read my post I used the word ‘potentially’ and also stated that I pray for universal salvation.

I do not retract my point though. New age practices are an invitation to malevolent spirits (a.k.a demons from hell) who will stop at nothing to lead a soul to perdition

 

[Adeodatus]

They are not playing a card game with Tarot cards. They are doing Tarot Card Readings, as advertised in the schedule. This is occult tarot, not a pack of 78 cards used to play French Tarot.

I request the prays of everyone here as I have my meeting tomorrow. I have social anxiety issues, and so this was very hard for me to do, and will be even harder for me to meet with the Provost in person and present my concerns.

Alright, compa. How did it go?

 

[Aboveallbereal]

Horsing around with the demonic is not an innocent pastime. Search the forum on ouija boards for some info on what can happen with this “innocent” messing around. I suppose they are too sophisticated to believe that demons do really exist and can use such things to serve their purposes. They would not have an innocent kissing booth because of the remote possibility that it might spread an STD. Why do this? Continue to press the issue.

Indeed. Being a “catholic college” it can safely be assumed few if any of the staff are burdened with Christianity and will regard the occult as stuff from the movies.

In the situation I would formally register my complaint, advise friends not to engage with it and then carry on.

 

[hamburglar]

Sorry for the long wait. Basically I was told that it was already approved by the president of the college and the Chairman of the Board of Trustees, who happens to be the Vicar General of the Diocese. The reasoning was that although they would have never have come up with the idea, they wanted to respect the students’ “rights” to develop their own events.

I guess through my complaints, there will now be a disclaimer on the table saying what the Church teaches on the matter, so I guess that’s a good thing. But it still bugs me that the president of the college and the Vicar General had no problem with this event.

 

[Rence]

Sorry for the long wait. Basically I was told that it was already approved by the president of the college and the Chairman of the Board of Trustees, who happens to be the Vicar General of the Diocese. The reasoning was that although they would have never have come up with the idea, they wanted to respect the students’ “rights” to develop their own events.

I guess through my complaints, there will now be a disclaimer on the table saying what the Church teaches on the matter, so I guess that’s a good thing. But it still bugs me that the president of the college and the Vicar General had no problem with this event.

Well good for you for trying to reign in your aniety and for confronting your fears by meeting with them Also, it is a good thing that there will be a disclaimer regarding Catholic teaching on the table because those who don’t know that they can’t participate will now know and be able to make an informed decision (which will hopefully be the decision to not participate). IMOHO, that is better than not having a disclaimer.

 

[John_of_Woking]

Sorry for the long wait. Basically I was told that it was already approved by the president of the college and the Chairman of the Board of Trustees, who happens to be the Vicar General of the Diocese. The reasoning was that although they would have never have come up with the idea, they wanted to respect the students’ “rights” to develop their own events.

I guess through my complaints, there will now be a disclaimer on the table saying what the Church teaches on the matter, so I guess that’s a good thing. But it still bugs me that the president of the college and the Vicar General had no problem with this event.

Well done. You have stood up for The Truth. Blessed be God. The disclaimer should get people thinking… The vicar general’s comment was a cop out. Nevermind …pray for him.

 

[havana1]

Sorry for the long wait. Basically I was told that it was already approved by the president of the college and the Chairman of the Board of Trustees, who happens to be the Vicar General of the Diocese. The reasoning was that although they would have never have come up with the idea, they wanted to respect the students’ “rights” to develop their own events.

I guess through my complaints, there will now be a disclaimer on the table saying what the Church teaches on the matter, so I guess that’s a good thing. But it still bugs me that the president of the college and the Vicar General had no problem with this event.

Wait a sec. Most states require card readers to prominently post “FOR ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY.” I don’t know how this would elude both college president and the Chairman, but the absence of such a disclaimer exposes the college to civil, and possible legal, liability. To clarify, not a disclaimer that it’s not Catholic orthodoxy, but a disclaimer that it’s for entertainment only: check the city where the college is located, and call the city clerk’s office if you need to - if it’s a public event, what you’re describing is legally dubious. I’m completely serious. One of the students gives legal or medical advice at a “reading,” and the college could get sued: that’s why a majority of municipalities require that disclaimer.

 

[GoldenLight]

IF then this ‘event’ goes ahead, couldn’t you ‘request’ … given that it is a Catholic college that you would like to see a prayer offered up BEFORE EACH READING …

Such as … We ask for Archangel Michael’s presence during this reading … I’m sure someone else can pick up where I left off and make a short prayer…
Basically have a prayer for protection I don’t think that would be an unreasonable request if it was short…