Catholic colleges discuss making school a good place for gays

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Catholic colleges discuss making school a good place for gays

More than 40 Catholic colleges were represented on Saturday at a conference that was billed as the nation’s first on how gays and lesbians fit in at universities guided by a faith that says their sexual orientation is wrong.

But rather than lamenting the Catholic Church’s stand on homosexuality, the two-day “Out There” conference at Santa Clara University showed that plenty of gay-related scholarship and student affairs planning is going on in Catholic higher education, said co-organizer Linda Garber.

“It’s important and interesting to know there are Catholic universities that have offices and staff people specifically geared toward LGBT concerns,” said Garber, director of the women’s and gender studies program at Santa Clara. “There are a lot of people out there who are teaching (LGBT) studies without a national professional organization, a newsletter or anything.”

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It would be useful to find a more detailed article on the conference.:hmmm:
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Those schools are a a joke.

Way to stand up for the “Catholic Church.”

These kind of schools honestly make me sick. They don’t have to be rude or mean about things, just faithful to Church teachings. They are shameful.
 
Pope Benedict XVI should internationally copyright the word “Catholic.” And any so-called “Catholic” university that does not adhere to Church teaching should be sued for copyright infringement.

This will only stop when Catholic colleges and universities care as much for the Catholic faith, they are supposed to hand down, as they do for their sports teams!
 
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AJC:
Pope Benedict XVI should internationally copyright the word “Catholic.”
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Unfortunatly, I don’t think you can copyright something that has been in public domain for two thousand years.
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It would be useful to find a more detailed article on the conference.:hmmm:
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Kathie,

scu.edu/ethics/publications/ethicalperspectives/glbt-issues.html

“These comments were part of an Ethics at Noon presentation at Santa Clara University October 26, 2005. Panelists were SCU Professor of Philosophy Michael J. Meyer and SCU Assistant Professor of History/Literature/Performance Studies Michael Zampelli, S.J.”

The above link takes to comments about the conference mentioned in this discussion.

Randy
 
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Kathie,

scu.edu/ethics/publications/ethicalperspectives/glbt-issues.html

“These comments were part of an Ethics at Noon presentation at Santa Clara University October 26, 2005. Panelists were SCU Professor of Philosophy Michael J. Meyer and SCU Assistant Professor of History/Literature/Performance Studies Michael Zampelli, S.J.”

The above link takes to comments about the conference mentioned in this discussion.

Randy
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I read the article at the link you provided, and it’s disturbing to read the definition of “tolerance” by a *Jesuit. * I then went on a Google search of my own of Catholic Universities and GLBT, and it was quite illuminating, not to mention disturbing. On one link there’s a list of Catholic universities and colleges with GLBT tolerance groups, and on another I looked at there is a timeline for the history of the ACLU’s fight for GLBT issues. It goes back much further than I had realized-- to 1940 to be exact. I had always thought that the ACLU first began going astray decades after that date. So how long has this assault been in the planning, and just how deep does the web go into society’s underpinnings? You have got to be careful who you trust.

nd.edu/~psa/byron/links/

aclu.org/getequal/timeline.htm?ID=18578&c=23
 
OUT THERE

The First National Conference of Scholars and Student Affairs Personnel Involved in LGBTQ Issues on Catholic Campuses

How do faculty and student life personnel who address LGBTQ issues pursue their work on Catholic campuses? Is the institutional mix like oil and water, or do we have more in common with other universities than the general public might guess?

“Out There” will bring together faculty and student affairs personnel to discuss the challenges and opportunities for doing our jobs in Catholic institutional contexts. Panels, workshops, discussion groups, and keynote speakers will address issues of curriculum, pedagogy, campus climate, and support for LGBTQ students, faculty, and staff. Sessions cover such topics as creating LGBTQ studies courses, developing lessons for integration into broader courses, improving campus climate for students, making/ disclosing identities, support services for students in crisis, handling the extra workload of service on LGBTQ issues, and addressing student attitudes toward LGBTQ programming and course material.
itrs.scu.edu/outthere/AboutOutThere.html

Full Conference program is listed here
 
It makes me sad that this form of thought is considered the “norm” in catholic (note the small c) religious schools. IMHO it makes those persons involved “feel” they are normal and have no need to change or be chaste. IMHO it makes our young people question Catholic (note the capital C) moral teaching and values.

Praying for priests that will stand up for moral values.:gopray: :gopray:
 
I’m expecting to be attacked by very conservative Catholics, so don’t hold back if you’re tempted. 🙂

As I’ve said in other threads, homosexuals are not EVIL, but only by acting on their orientations do they actually sin. There is nothing wrong in saying that you are gay. In fact, I think people can admire that kind of honesty. But let’s remember not to exclude homosexuals from the Catholic Church. By condemning gay and lesbian organizations on Catholic campuses, you are attempting to destroy a support group that many homosexuals need to protect themselves from the onslaught of verbal abuse. They basically feel safer when they around people that understand them.

Is being gay okay? Yes, as long as he or she acts within the teachings of the Catholic Church. Will homosexuals go to heaven? Yes.

I think we should try and figure out the intentions of these Catholic LGTB organizations and decide whether or not they are promoting a single, Catholic lifestyle, rather than condemn them.
 
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I’m expecting to be attacked by very conservative Catholics, so don’t hold back if you’re tempted. 🙂

As I’ve said in other threads, homosexuals are not EVIL, but only by acting on their orientations do they actually sin. There is nothing wrong in saying that you are gay. In fact, I think people can admire that kind of honesty. But let’s remember not to exclude homosexuals from the Catholic Church. By condemning gay and lesbian organizations on Catholic campuses, you are attempting to destroy a support group that many homosexuals need to protect themselves from the onslaught of verbal abuse. They basically feel safer when they around people that understand them.

Is being gay okay? Yes, as long as he or she acts within the teachings of the Catholic Church. Will homosexuals go to heaven? Yes.

I think we should try and figure out the intentions of these Catholic LGTB organizations and decide whether or not they are promoting a single, Catholic lifestyle, rather than condemn them.
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A chaste homosexual has no need to declare themself. If they do it’s to promte the gay agenda.
 
I think a proclaimed chaste, gay, Catholic homosexual would be an excellent example for all homosexuals.
 
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Zahmir:
I think a proclaimed chaste, gay, Catholic homosexual would be an excellent example for all homosexuals.
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The term gay cannot be used in the sentence given what it means today,
 
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Zahmir:
I think a proclaimed chaste, gay, Catholic homosexual would be an excellent example for all homosexuals.
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You’re right, that person would be an excellent example for others. Unfortunately the people who actually live like that aren’t out there telling everyone about it–they’re just trying to lead their lives. The people who feel the need to discuss their sex lives in public are the problem.

Is there any way to get a list of the schools involved?
 
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Zahmir:
I’m expecting to be attacked by very conservative Catholics, so don’t hold back if you’re tempted. 🙂

As I’ve said in other threads, homosexuals are not EVIL, but only by acting on their orientations do they actually sin. There is nothing wrong in saying that you are gay. In fact, I think people can admire that kind of honesty. But let’s remember not to exclude homosexuals from the Catholic Church. By condemning gay and lesbian organizations on Catholic campuses, you are attempting to destroy a support group that many homosexuals need to protect themselves from the onslaught of verbal abuse. They basically feel safer when they around people that understand them.

Is being gay okay? Yes, as long as he or she acts within the teachings of the Catholic Church. Will homosexuals go to heaven? Yes.

I think we should try and figure out the intentions of these Catholic LGTB organizations and decide whether or not they are promoting a single, Catholic lifestyle, rather than condemn them.
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Don’t forget that homosexuality is an unnnatural attraction, and homosexual temptation is temptation to sin, and needs to be resisted, and if acted upon, repented of and confessed.
 

Some of the presentations/seminars sound like they would be interesting:​

Can I Be Gay and Catholic? Encouraging Theological Engagement and Reflection on LGBTQ Issues

Issues of Sexuality from a Catholic Perspective

What’s love got to do with it?’: Sexuality, Love of God and an Ethic of Justice

Providing Optimal Health Care for LGBTQ Students

God and Monsters: “Catholic Guilt,” Queer Shame, and College Student Mental Health
 
First off, let’s make a distinction, if we can, between “gay” and “homosexual” even though they’re used interchangeably by many. Let’s say “gay” are those homosexuals who promote that lifestyle as “normal” and have an agenda. Let’s say “homosexuals” are those who supposedly are tempted by such things. It’s okay to be a chase homosexual. It is NOT okay to be gay and Catholic, since you would be promoting evil behavior as something “good” and “acceptable.”

Now, with regard to the “Catholic” universities meeting about “making Catholic universities a good place for gays” I think this is an opportunity to find out which universities are really Catholic and which are not. We have most of 'em here in one group. List the ones that promote the “gay” agenda and send that list to Pope Benedict XVI. When he gets it, he can give 'em an edict. Become Catholic or have your Catholic charter removed and become a secular university (like you evidently are anyway).

This would clear up much of the confusion caused currently by those universities that claim to be Catholic but are not.
 
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