Catholic convert Senator regularly attending Protestant services

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Brownback came to Franciscan University to speak 1-2 years ago, and it was amazing. By far one of the best talks I’ve ever heard. I love love love Senator Brownback.👍
 
Yes, lets tell everyone our churches are impersonal and cold!! that’s a great way to get people interested in the Catholic faith!! ----maybe we should be the start to making our churches less this way if its a problem --!!! – as for me, my church and the other church I go to sometimes are just fine!!

Look, I have family gatherings to go to. Other people can hang around all day after Church, we’re going to go have a meal with extended family, and we have a long way to drive to get there.

Does it make me “cold” because I’m going to see the family?

Of course not.

This is one more weird, not-actually-Christian criticism the Prots bring up against us, and I say we respond appropriately:

“Why aren’t you at home with your family? We’ve worshipped together as God instructed, Bible study isn’t until Wednesday night, why don’t you go home?!? Why exactly am I supposed to hang around on the front steps talking to you all day when there’s barbeque, beer, and family waiting for me?”

This whole “Church as support group” thing that they do is NOT normal in the first place.
 
One of the two great commandments is to love your neighbor. Now, if you are reticent to give them the sign of peace in church or talk to them, how are you going to love a fellow congregant or a neighbor?

It’s not only Protestants that bring this subject up but Catholic lay and clergy do too.

Enough said on this topic.

John
 
Cordelil said:
One of the two great commandments is to love your neighbor. Now, if you are reticent to give them the sign of peace in church or talk to them, how are you going to love a fellow congregant or a neighbor?

It’s not only Protestants that bring this subject up but Catholic lay and clergy do too.

Enough said on this topic.

John
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The Church does more in terms of feeding the hungry, housing the homeless and other charitable work than all the other aid organisations on the planet put together. THAT is real love of neighbour and that is what Jesus commanded us to do and told us HE would judge us on. Didn’t He say something about not ONLY being good to those who are good to us because even the heathens do the same and they have had their reward?

Did He say ‘when I was hungry you fed me … naked you clothed me … bored and lonely you gave me a social life…’? No. Because that’s not real love, that’s just the illusion of warm fuzzies that we confuse too often for the real thing, and too often do because it makes us feel good on the lowest emotional level as well, and for no worthier reason.

If I want a social life I’ll get a hobby and join a sports club or whatever, that’s not what Church is about. Or at least not what MASS is about.
 
I agree there are many reasons (some good) to return to his original church but somehow I keep thinking of Henry of Navarre who said “Paris is worth a Mass.”
 
Okay, now that I’m all caught up here – i knew we were talking about A senator but i had no idea we were talking about Senator Brownback until a few posts ago! haha - I need to read more:D . So here is my reply to that - Yea!! Go Brownback! Go Kansas!!🙂 🙂 I didn’t know he was Catholic, but I already liked him a lot anyway – too bad he didnt get enough support to make it to the White House - this term. As a proud Kansan myself, I’m sure he is doing this with the best intentions. There are many other people you should worry about…unfortunately:(
 
Gee, I always feel like responding to these posts but because they are so old I am never quite sure any of the posters are still around.
Some old jokes about Catholics.
1> If you are a felon or the like and want to go into hiding, then go to a Catholic Church. You will be ok because no one will look at you.
2< Don’t walk around the parking lot of a Catholic Church later than a half hour after the start of mass without VERY GOOd insurance.
 
newbetx said:
I don’t know about that statistic. In my case and others that I know that converted, they stayed because they knew that was what most Catholics were like but chose the Church, anyway.

Now I have heard that many young adults leave because of this. They never felt ‘loved’ at their parish and the other religions are so much more “friendly” and loving than those at their old church.

Take this forum for instance. Many come, many leave because there is so much focus on “who is sinning.” So heap guilt on top of a ‘ritual’ (Mass) that they don’t truely understand and off they go to a place that is more open and friendly and “reasonable.”
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Hi, new here in the forum, and I am from Singapore.

We attend mass because that is where we receive Jesus. We are in the Catholic church, because that’s what Jesus came to establish and that is where the truth is.

It’s so sad when people leave the church because they don’t like the people or they want a friendlier place. Well, why depend on others to make it a friendlier place? Why not take the initiative to love other more in the church?
 
missymichelle said:
Gee, I always feel like responding to these posts but because they are so old I am never quite sure any of the posters are still around.
Some old jokes about Catholics.
1> If you are a felon or the like and want to go into hiding, then go to a Catholic Church. You will be ok because no one will look at you.
2< Don’t walk around the parking lot of a Catholic Church later than a half hour after the start of mass without VERY GOOd insurance.
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What do these “jokes” have anything to do with the topic being discussed? And why would you post them anyway, I don’t think anyone considers them funny, and they are stereotypical jokes that make the Church look bad. please watch what you’re posting!!
 
Hello! I liked the first joke. “If the shoe fits wear it.”

John
 
Cordelil said:
Hello! I liked the first joke. “If the shoe fits wear it.”

John
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problem is…i dont think the shoe fits and i find the “jokes” offensive:( i came here to learn about my faith and if I have enough problems trying to defend it anyway without these jokes – im not trying to be rude I just dont believe the jokes are appropriate here!!
 
PoliSciProf said:
I agree there are many reasons (some good) to return to his original church but somehow I keep thinking of Henry of Navarre who said “Paris is worth a Mass.”
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HaHa, forgot that quote of Henry’s. Maybe some here won’t think that’s charitable but it’s true. I wonder what the true motive is in going there. It’s mentioned his wife and kids are methodists.Now i could see him going to an early mass and then to the methodist Church to worship with the wife and kiddies,that’s okay.But they don’t belong to his old church.So unless he is trying to convert those people to the Catholic faith, I just can’t see why he feels he has to go there.My parents didn’t go to mass much if at all, but they wanted us raised in the faith.They never set foot in a protestant church unless it was a wedding or funeral of someone they knew.No they weren’t converts, both born and raised catholics.
Just hope it’s not for votes, or that he’s going to revert to his old church.
 
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