Catholic Doctrine not true?

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My mother-in-law tells me that The King James Bible is more accurately translated then any other Bible, Esp. (she says) the Catholic Bible. She says The Catholic Church is for “Lazy People” who don’t want to think for themselves (regarding the meaning of scripture) and says that it’s a religion bent on brainwash.

Does anyone have anything to say to this? I’m very confused…
 
I think this will help. This is a link worth reading. Bible Translations Guide

After reading it myself, I find it interesting the the manuscripts used for the KJV of the bible were compiled by a Catholic. 😃
 
I don’t get what she means it’s for “Lazy people.” What makes us lazy for being Catholic?
 
The catholic church created the university system. It promotes thinking a great deal and did so before anyone else.

Your mother-in-law is defending personal interpretation of the bible. Catholics promote reading the bible but recognize that two different people can arrive at different interpretations. If the bible represents truth, there must be one interpretation that is most correct. Determining the correct interpretation is exactly what the Catholic Church has set out to do.

What we have today is a lot of development of this revealed truth in the form of dogma, doctrine, the catechism, etc. It may seem overwhelming and like “brainwashing” to some but to your faithful catholic, it is like a gold mine.

We have almost 2000 years of serious analysis, and debate of God’s revelation. Halleluia!
 
The King James Bible orignally cross-referenced the Deuterocanon (7 books not considered inspired by most but not all Jews and Protestants). I believe it also contained lists of Saints’ feasts including Mother Mary.

The King James was based on a Greek text by Catholic scholar Erasmus - he dedicated the first edition to Pope Leo X. He used about six late manuscripts for his version and as he was missing part of Revelation had to translate the missing bits from the Latin into Greek.

The 1582 Douay Rheims Catholic Bible influenced the King James too.
 
mclr_1397 said:
My mother-in-law tells me that The King James Bible is more accurately translated then any other Bible, Esp. (she says) the Catholic Bible. She says The Catholic Church is for “Lazy People” who don’t want to think for themselves (regarding the meaning of scripture) and says that it’s a religion bent on brainwash.

Does anyone have anything to say to this? I’m very confused…
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Maybe you should tell her to get some new material.
 
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The catholic church created the university system. It promotes thinking a great deal and did so before anyone else–

Your mother-in-law is defending personal interpretation of the bible. Catholics promote reading the bible but recognize that two different people can arrive at different interpretations. If the bible represents truth, there must be one interpretation thrat is most correct. Determining the correct interpretation is exactly what the Catholic Church has set out to do.

What we have today is a lot of development of this revealed truth in the form of dogma, doctrine, the catechism, etc. It may seem overwhelming and like “brainwashing” to some but to your faithful catholic, it is like a gold mine.

We have almost 2000 years of serious analysis, and debate of God’s revelation. Halleluia!
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Thank you RS Kempf, I recently read a great book, How the Catholic Church Built Western Civilization…as you mentioned above, the university system, hospital system,
international law, the sciences, and on and on and no one out there seems to want to acknowledge it. Then there is the title of this thread, it is hard to figure.🤷 Carlan
 
I learned by my parish priest, learn the origins of a belief and its founder(s). King James Bible originates from a King James Born 6-19-1566 Died 3-27-1625. King James I ( England,Ireland) also known as King James VI (Scotland) was a descendant of the popular known King Henry VIII. King Henry was married to Catherine of Aragon. King Henry wanted an annulment by Pope Clement VII to declare the marriage null but was denied. King Henry disobeyed the Catholic Church and decided to reform to his own Church of England ( Anglican Church). Within the past century, much teaching on Christianity outside of the Catholic Church came from many people one of them was a man name Lorraine Boettner, the author of “Roman Catholicism” which has spawned much more division and hatred toward anti-Catholicism. Another man in the 70’s and 80’s named Jack Chick in which many tracts in small books and pamphlets in certain evangelical churches had accelerated the hatred of Catholics to now has accelerated divisions and downfalls of many protestant denominations. I traced a pastor of a Baptist church in the FL area to a founder from Ohio who went to a bible college in Pensacola,FL.
The founder of Pensacola Bible College was a student of Bob Jones University. Bob Jones University did not allow African-Americans to the campus until around the late 1970’s. This university even gave honors to a leader of the Irish Republican Army.
 
mclr_1397 said:
My mother-in-law tells me that The King James Bible is more accurately translated then any other Bible, Esp. (she says) the Catholic Bible. She says The Catholic Church is for “Lazy People” who don’t want to think for themselves (regarding the meaning of scripture) and says that it’s a religion bent on brainwash.
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If there is one organ in your entire body that needs washing, it would be your brain.

EVERY book tries to convey a message with accuracy. Having studied the entire issue of God down to its very deep roots, I can tell you that any mild attempt to read the really intended meaning in any Bible is a major undertaking.

Reading the Catholic version will certainly lead to different presumptions (sins) than any other Bible. The issue is to try to remove presumptions as much as possible.

The question is whether you have the required talent to actually see the real intent of passages better than what is proposed in the Catholic version. Can you compare your understanding ability to those of such priests on that subject?

If you only read the KJV and presume from there, you stand alone in your individual set of presumptions. If you accept the Catholic version with whatever presumptions you mistakenly gain from it, at least you have friends to try to help.

Or if you are really, really good, you don’t even have to read any Bible and presume from what you think you see.

The issue is “who’s advice (faith) are you willing to follow?” If you choose to read and study it all only on your own, you get what you asked for… alone.
 
It’s not worth replying to your MIL since she’s made no intelligent argument to refute. Why don’t you ask her to provide a specific example of her claims and the evidence for it? Or is she too lazy to do that?
 
James_S_Saint said:
Reading the Catholic version will certainly lead to different presumptions (sins) than any other Bible.
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The best thing I’ve found from the hundreds of posts you’ve generated in the short time you’ve been here (over 800 posts since August), giving your unwarranted and unsolicited opinions on every topic … is that, they almost never make any sense at all.

So, when you say something that is clearly false and an attack on the Catholic Faith, as above, nobody knows it because they can’t understand what you’re saying.

For whatever reason, after several people have stated frankly that they don’t know what you’re talking about, this fact never registers with you. So, you continue to post nonsensical replies – in a very large quantity.

Personally, while there is the good part (that nobody can understand your false beliefs) I find that your posts tend to clutter up threads with opinions that nobody is interested in.

You might consider joining a discussion board for people of your own religious views – if any can be found.
 
James_S_Saint said:
If there is one organ in your entire body that needs washing, it would be your brain.

EVERY book tries to convey a message with accuracy. Having studied the entire issue of God down to its very deep roots, I can tell you that any mild attempt to read the really intended meaning in any Bible is a major undertaking.

Reading the Catholic version will certainly lead to different presumptions (sins) than any other Bible. The issue is to try to remove presumptions as much as possible.

The question is whether you have the required talent to actually see the real intent of passages better than what is proposed in the Catholic version. Can you compare your understanding ability to those of such priests on that subject?

If you only read the KJV and presume from there, you stand alone in your individual set of presumptions. If you accept the Catholic version with whatever presumptions you mistakenly gain from it, at least you have friends to try to help.

Or if you are really, really good, you don’t even have to read any Bible and presume from what you think you see.

The issue is “who’s advice (faith) are you willing to follow?” If you choose to read and study it all only on your own, you get what you asked for… alone.
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Well,James I don’t know what the rest of the Christians in this group think about themselves, but I, for one, do not have the bragging right of being the brightest light in the room. Simply put I don’t get you,:ehh::hmmm: Carlan
 
since she obviously considers herself a bible-believing Christian she will no doubt be about to point out to you the verse in scripture where God has given her the authority to judge bible interpration and translation and make such a pronouncement.
 
puzzleannie said:
since she obviously considers herself a bible-believing Christian she will no doubt be about to point out to you the verse in scripture where God has given her the authority to judge bible interpration and translation and make such a pronouncement.
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Annie, you seriously rock!!
👍👍
 
I would recommend this link for some information about KJV Only. I would recommend you download the PowerPoint presentation and show it to your mother-in-law (and keep it handy for anyone else who insists the KJV is THE Bible).

In regard to the “lazy” comment, I would guess she has the opinion that you just accept whatever the Church tells you without testing it (basically, “if the Church says it’s true, I believe it!”). This is certainly an attitude I’ve encountered, but it is not exclusive to Catholics.

Pax!
 
What is the catholic doctrine? Do you follow everything in the bible?
 
I’m not sure how anyone can comment on the accuracy of translations of the Bible unless they’ve read the original texts in their original languages. Certain things will inevitably be lost in translation, no matter how good the translator. It’s the nature of language. OP, I would suggest telling your mother in law to read the original texts in Hebrew, Greek, etc. and then compare them to the different English translations. Unless she would rather simply read what the “experts” think about the various translations and arbitrarily choose which one is “right,” in which case she is the lazy one.
 
Not the little translation errors but the context of the bible. Do you follow everything in the bible? like the old law? If you do not follow the law why not? Jesus says follow the laws of my father.
 
cantheist said:
What is the catholic doctrine? Do you follow everything in the bible?
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Hello Cantheist,

The Church founded by Christ must go back in history to the time of Christ ; it’s doctrines must be the same as those of the Apostolic Church; and it’s leaders must be able to trace their authority back to the Apostles. Thus, history, Apostolic authority,and Apostolic doctrines are the sure guidelines to determining which Church Jesus founded.
Only the Catholic Church meets these requirements.
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 Any objective history book will show that only the Catholic Church has existed since the time of Christ. No Protestant denomination found today existed before 1517
The early Church Fathers are our indispensable link to what the first Christians believed. A careful study of the early Church Fathers shows they all taught distinctively Cathollic doctrines.:cool:👍 God Bless Carlan
 
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