Catholic explanations in the bible

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After readign the old Testament I really think every bible MUST have a complete explanation whitin it no jstu the scriptures alone.
My catholic bible in spanish have more explanation tahn the very own scripture lol,
and I havent studied theology but I feel I can answer many question that many people dunno about the faith.
its almsot imposible to udnerstand the bible without any expalnation at all.
many atheists read the bible so much but they consider it fairy tales because they dotn udnerstand the language that it has neither they ahve explanantions that could make sense to them.

Do you think all the catholic bibles should have alot of explanation within them and not only the scriptures alone?

I personally think we should promote peopel to read the bibles with explanations especially peopel that dunno mcuh about their faith. because for many reading the bible on their own d’ be like playing russian rullet.

I beg you pardon my spanish 😉
 
jimmy85 said:
After readign the old Testament I really think every bible MUST have a complete explanation whitin it no jstu the scriptures alone.
My catholic bible in spanish have more explanation tahn the very own scripture lol,
and I havent studied theology but I feel I can answer many question that many people dunno about the faith.
its almsot imposible to udnerstand the bible without any expalnation at all.
many atheists read the bible so much but they consider it fairy tales because they dotn udnerstand the language that it has neither they ahve explanantions that could make sense to them.

Do you think all the catholic bibles should have alot of explanation within them and not only the scriptures alone?

I personally think we should promote peopel to read the bibles with explanations especially peopel that dunno mcuh about their faith. because for many reading the bible on their own d’ be like playing russian rullet.

I beg you pardon my spanish 😉
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You should get the Douay-Rheims Bible with the Haydock commentary.
 
But I think the comments abotu the bible should be in the very same bible in order that every kind of person could understand the language and the ambiguity of it.
As a matter of fact most of atheist read the bible alot but if they read the king james bible they wont understand a word aobut it , its like free for open intepretation and that is bad though.

Perhaps if the very same bible could have the comentarys within many people that dont have religion and that dotn knwo their faith ,could understand the bible in a perfect way.
 
jimmy85 said:
After readign the old Testament I really think every bible MUST have a complete explanation whitin it no jstu the scriptures alone.
My catholic bible in spanish have more explanation tahn the very own scripture lol,
and I havent studied theology but I feel I can answer many question that many people dunno about the faith.
its almsot imposible to udnerstand the bible without any expalnation at all.
many atheists read the bible so much but they consider it fairy tales because they dotn udnerstand the language that it has neither they ahve explanantions that could make sense to them.

Do you think all the catholic bibles should have alot of explanation within them and not only the scriptures alone?

I personally think we should promote peopel to read the bibles with explanations especially peopel that dunno mcuh about their faith. because for many reading the bible on their own d’ be like playing russian rullet.

I beg you pardon my spanish 😉
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What Spanish Bible are you using? The only Spanish Bible I’ve seen easily available here in the US is the Reina Valera protestant version.

Here is a site that might interest you. And here is the Haydock Commentary.

By the way, there’s nothing wrong with your “spanish” though your typing might improve a little 😉
 
didymus said:
What Spanish Bible are you using? The only Spanish Bible I’ve seen easily available here in the US is the Reina Valera protestant version.

Here is a site that might interest you. And here is the Haydock Commentary.

By the way, there’s nothing wrong with your “spanish” though your typing might improve a little 😉
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My bible’s name is Biblia latinoamericana , The latinamerican bible. I personally like it more than the one of Jerusalen, its a catholic bible.

The Reina Valera is awfull ,they change so many words of the original words.

by teh way , thanks for the haydock commentarys its cool.

I think after the II vatican counsil it was allowed that the catholic bibles could have comentarys within them.
but I belive all bibles should have them not everyone is a scholar to udnerstand properly.
I had struggle with so many verses. for examaple Matthew 23,8-12. , John 14 and other.
and if I havent had some comentarys and explanatiosn near me I could be away of the church, so perhaps every bible should have comentarys within it in order that people dotn get misleaded.

Sorry about my english , im posting here in order to practice it lol

😉 Pax
 
I was listening to Catholic Radio via internet this morning and in an interview with Ignatius Publishers the question on Bible commentaries came into the discussion.

Be aware of the Bible Commentaries you use.
Check the Editors and the Contributors
Are they
Traditional Catholics
Liberal Catholics
Protestants

e.g. Harper Bible commentary is suggested to be “heretical”- written by very liberal Christian Theologians.

Some recommendations

The Comple Nararre Bible includes very good Bible Commentary from CCC, Church Fathers etc.

The Ignatius RSV-ce Study Bible (in Books) - NT series
have the RSV as well as the Footnotes endorsed with the Bishop’s Imprimatur and Nihil Obstat… which is in line with Catholic teachings.
 
richardeekw said:
I was listening to Catholic Radio via internet this morning and in an interview with Ignatius Publishers the question on Bible commentaries came into the discussion.

Be aware of the Bible Commentaries you use.
Check the Editors and the Contributors
Are they
Traditional Catholics
Liberal Catholics
Protestants

e.g. Harper Bible commentary is suggested to be “heretical”- written by very liberal Christian Theologians.

Some recommendations

The Comple Nararre Bible includes very good Bible Commentary from CCC, Church Fathers etc.

The Ignatius RSV-ce Study Bible (in Books) - NT series
have the RSV as well as the Footnotes endorsed with the Bishop’s Imprimatur and Nihil Obstat… which is in line with Catholic teachings.
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the commentarys of the bible should be authorized by the very same Hole see, and not from bible publishers.
In order to avoid any liberal actitude toward the comentarys of the bible.
 
There is a difference between “Pastoral” Scripture Studies and “Scripture Studies for Degree Programmes” .

In University degree studies, it is important to know and to be able to explain
  • What Traditional Church teaches (from the Holy See)
  • What the Portestants teach and
  • What the “current” Theologians interprete the verse(s) in Scripture, - The What and the Why.
For this reason the different Commentaries does help to enhance one’s academic knowledge.

Of course for Roman Cathlics it is important to know what the Holy See teaches and Why before learning what and why the other Theologians are saying.
 
richardeekw said:
There is a difference between “Pastoral” Scripture Studies and “Scripture Studies for Degree Programmes” .

In University degree studies, it is important to know and to be able to explain
  • What Traditional Church teaches (from the Holy See)
  • What the Portestants teach and
  • What the “current” Theologians interprete the verse(s) in Scripture, - The What and the Why.
For this reason the different Commentaries does help to enhance one’s academic knowledge.

Of course for Roman Cathlics it is important to know what the Holy See teaches and Why before learning what and why the other Theologians are saying.[/Q
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Im just refering to catholic bibles. therefore just catholic interpretation authorized by the holy see.

We can’t make an ecumenism to agree in interpretation but at least the catholic bibles could have their own intepretation in order that anyone could udnerstand the catholic doctrine , and the bible in a perfect way.
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[We can’t make an ecumenism to agree in interpretation but at least the catholic bibles could have their own intepretation in order that anyone could udnerstand the catholic doctrine , and the bible in a perfect way.

**What you say is TRUE. and I do AGREE.
For Romwn Catholics it is adviseable to use Catholic endorsed Bibles indicated with the Bishop’s Imprimatur and the Nihil Obstat.

However even in the respective translated versions in the different languages it may not be easy to understand a verse in its context without understanding the Culture and time of writing the different books in the Bible. It is often the presumptions of the Biblical culture to fit into the 21st centure that causes so much misunderstanding.
  • Jesus spoke (What does He mean - in the context of the culture and of to the audience His time?)
  • Oral & Written Traditions. The evangelists and editors compiled for the different Christian Communities
    (What is their purpose.?)
  • The Word of God : What is it Saying to the World and to us personally today!
    Thus the CCC speaks of the Senses of Scripture.
Therefore we today need the help of Biblical Scholars and written commentaries to help us better understand the Scriptures.

**The Catechism of the Catholic Church **is the best and the first source.
Also Bible footnotes that are endorsed with the Imprimatur & Nihil Obstat is an invaluable tool.( I’m not sure; but heard that not all the footnotes are “endorsed” although the Biblical texts in the Catholic Bibles are endorsed)

( In particular the Intruduction, commntary and notes of the Ignatius Study Bible RSV-ce, carries a written endorsement)

One needs to know WHY we believe in WHAT we believe… but … To distinguish this from ACADEMIC studies of the Scriptures one should go further to know, in addition
  • Why Protestants believe in WHAT they believe (i.e. Protestant Commentaries can help here) and
  • Why Liberal Biblical Scholars (Catholics, Christians and Non-Christians) are saying today.
ITheologians offer different perspectives to the Church, who ALONE is the Interpreter and the Safe-keeper of the Doctrine of the Faith. i.e. the Magisterium.
 
jimmy85 said:
Do you think all the catholic bibles should have alot of explanation within them and not only the scriptures alone?
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***Hi, Jimmy!

I understand what you mean… my favorite Bible is “La Biblia de Jerusalén.” It is full of foot notes explaining many complex matters… but it also uses a very distinctive language and it keeps some of the original Arameic within the text (i.e.: Amen, Abba, Maran atha…). It also has a built-in concordance which covers many of the most important pasages.

I also agree with your concern because too many times Catholics fall prey to non-Cotholics since we lack knowledge of both Church Teachings and the Holy Scriptures–if our Bibles would have authentic Catholic notations and explanations even our less learned brothers could face the assault on the Church.

God Bless!

Angel***
 
I have both the Biblia Latinoamericana and the Nueva Biblia de Jerusalem.
Personally I like the Jerusalem one. In EWTN in spanish the priest recomend you own both.
The Lationamericana for liturgial use and the Jerusalem for study.
 
I agree both bibles have good notes and explanations.
I think it is a real matter because with the concept of sola scripture every atheists/agnostic that reads the bible without any preparation think he can understand the fullness of a message, and they fall into liretracy many times. that is the main reason for all the skepticism, because the biblical doctrine is been extremly misinterpretated.
on the other hand im sure that If people would consider reading the footnotes and the explanations of the bible and not the bible alone, that would help every kind of person to realize that the biblical doctrine is very logical and that is dosetn lack understanding.
 
You are not the only one to link the rise of modern atheism to Sola Scriptura. The atheists and agnostic sceptic often read the Bible in the same way that fundamentalist and reach oposite results.
 
jimmy85 said:
the concept of sola scripture every atheists/agnostic that reads the bible without any preparation think he can understand the fullness of a message, and they fall into liretracy many times. that is the main reason for all the skepticism, because the biblical doctrine is been extremly misinterpretated.
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***Hi, Jimmy!

I’ve spoken with various non-Catholics who reject anything and everything Catholic… sola scriptura, though one of Luther’s original peeve, has turned into the major basis for rejecting the Church. They actually think that by simply reciting this credo they have nullified the only Church founded by Christ!

They are as Jesus’ blind leading the blind since they cannot understand that by creating their own version of “church” they are rejecting Jesus Command that we, His followers, must be one in Him as He is One in the Father.

Even when the Holy Scriptures themselves tell us that there are two distinct sources which provide us with the Word of God (Sacred Scriptures and Sacred Tradition), they reject God’s own Word in preference of their own corrupt interpretation.

But that is only half the battle… Catholics are slow and lazy… tell them about a Bible study and they have a myriad of obligations and family engagements… tell them that they can study on their own–not enough time or quiet or “right envrironment…” tell them to go online… they will… soon… :mad:

God Bless!

Angel***
 
jcrichton said:
***But that is only half the battle… Catholics are slow and lazy… tell them about a Bible study and they have a myriad of obligations and family engagements… tell them that they can study on their own–not enough time or quiet or “right envrironment…” tell them to go online… they will… soon… :mad:

God Bless!

Angel***
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:amen:

This has been my frustrating experience for over 20 years. Catholics complain --and even leave the Church – saying there are no Bible studies in the Catholic Church, but when it’s offered to them they give all the above excuses and more. Sometimes they attend one or two sessions, then never go back. You can use every concievable model, schedule and format (even ones based on successful Protestant models) but the result is the same. Interestingly, the people who show most commitments and long term enthusiasm about it, are converts from Protestant churches!

I agree that MOST Catholics are lazy in this area. Many are content to just go to Mass on Sunday and “mail it in” the rest of the week. If you don’t have a Bible study in your local parish, this is probably why. Some poor soul (or several poor souls) at one time (or several times) went through a lot of trouble to set one up, and then sat there by themself for an hour waiting for someone to show up. 😦
 
Fidelis said:
:amen:

You can use every concievable model, schedule and format (even ones based on successful Protestant models) but the result is the same.
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***Hi, Fidelis!

The very very worst? …when these “border-line” Catholics leave the Church they are submerged, head first, into whatever the denominational church has currently subscribed to as their credo and dogmas.

One huge difference that I’ve come to know is that these Catholics who could not attend a weekly Bible study, on a volunteer basis, readily engage in mandatory x$ tithing, special contributions for local church, visiting/guest preachers, and other financial obligations (all mandatory); they also become members of every or nearly every mandatory activity such as Bible study, proselytizing, fund-raising, spiritual retreats, etc… (not to mention speaking in tongues, discerning spirits, prophetising, and the ole Cath Church bashing–though this latter one is not practiced in all denominations…). Boy, what deliverance!:eek:

God Bless!

Angel***
 
If you want to check out some interesting Spanish bibles, try this link for Scio de San Miguel’s Spanish translation of the New Testament, with the Vulgate in a parallel column and a massive amount of notes.

The old testament is only available in separate volumes from a different edition.

Volume 1: Genesis
Volume 2: Exodus, Leviticus and Numbers
Volume 3: Deuteronomy, Joshua, Judges and Ruth
Volume 4: 1-4 Kings
Volume 5: 1-2 Paralipomenon, 1-2 Esdras, Tobit, Judith
Volume 6: Esther, Job, a paraphrase of Job, 1st Part of Psalms
Volume 7: Second part of Psalms, “Jerome’s Psalms” from the Hebrew (in Latin only), a paraphrase of the Psalms
Volume 8: Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, Canticle of Canticles, Wisdom, Ecclesiasticus
Volume 9: Isaias, Jeremias
Volume 10: Lamentations, a paraphrase of Lamentations, Baruch, Ezekiel, Daniel
Volume 11: 12 Minor Prophets, 1-2 Maccabees

For the Petisco Torres Amat (also with the Vulgate parallel), only the Old Testament can be found on Google books:
Volume 1: Pentateuch, Joshua, Judges, Ruth
Volume 2: 1-4 Kings, 1-2 Paralipomenon, 1-2 Esdras, Tobit, Judith, Esther, Job
Volume 3: Psalms, Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, Canticle of Canticles, Wisdom, Ecclesiasticus, Isaias
Volume 4: Jeremias, Lamentations, Baruch, Ezekiel, Daniel, 12 Minor Prophets, 1-2 Maccabees

You could say that the amount of notes in San Miguel’s bible is roughly equivalent to Haydock, while the amount in the Torres Amat is proportional to Challoner.
 
It d be good also to include in the bible studies, the bible fullfilled prophecies and the similarities of the characters in the OT with Jesus in the NT.
Those fact can give a rich insight in bible study for anyone and they are so obvious that im sure people that learn them will convert and will avoid any sort of skepticism.
here there are some nice webpage with a lot of good info, hope you guys enjoy it:
Prophecies and types of each Book of the Old Testament fulfilled in Jesus Christ and His Church, a total of 1,093

Virgin Mary in the Bible The humble servant of the Lord
 
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