"Catholic" Group: Obama Should Do More to Promote Abortion

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They must be a very interesting “Catholic” group. Abortion is murder.
 
Definently. You can’t be Catholic and be Pro-Choice.

(Also, sorry about calling you a heretic earlier. I actually didn’t mean YOU were a heretic. I wasn’t meaning to “Protestant slam” anyone. The Church just says you’re being taught heresy. Very sorry.)
 
They’re Catholic. Bad Catholics, but unfortunately still Catholic. Of course, the Church ought to stress that the only way these people are affiliated with the Church is by baptism and confirmation, and that the Church does not endorse their positions on… well, just about anything.
 
ajpirc said:
Definently. You can’t be Catholic and be Pro-Choice.

(Also, sorry about calling you a heretic earlier. I actually didn’t mean YOU were a heretic. I wasn’t meaning to “Protestant slam” anyone. The Church just says you’re being taught heresy. Very sorry.)
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No worries…you aren’t the first an probably won’t be the last. There are a few in my husband’s parrish that have not taken the “kids are being raised Lutheran thing well”
 
Cojuanco said:
They’re Catholic. Bad Catholics, but unfortunately still Catholic. Of course, the Church ought to stress that the only way these people are affiliated with the Church is by baptism and confirmation, and that the Church does not endorse their positions on… well, just about anything.
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These “pro-choice Catholic politicians” (Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi) even receive the Blessed Sacrament in the state of mortal sin (funding to kill innocent people) just to show their voters that they’re religious.:mad:
 
Obama for the most part doesn’t stand for anything.He wants to be president more than anything else.He will change policies on any issue if it means staying in office.Like he said"elections make a difference".He had to soften his policies when reps. took the house and he will continue to change if he has to.He’s liberal that’s right.ANd that’s what got him elected along with some other things he had to go back on once he was elected.No president is even going to keep to his promises.In the first place you can’t please everyone and that’s what the candidates promise.
 
This group give me the creeps and I don’t approve of their use of the word “Catholic” to describe themselves.

However, they do highlight an important factor that the “pro-life” politicians often seem to forget - mothers.

Perhaps if the politicians who call themselves “Pro-Life” did a better job at creating public policies that support mothers, rather than focusing so much effort on making abortion illegal, groups like this wouldn’t have a reason to exist.
 
bellasbane said:
This group give me the creeps and I don’t approve of their use of the word “Catholic” to describe themselves.

However, they do highlight an important factor that the “pro-life” politicians often seem to forget - mothers.

Perhaps if the politicians who call themselves “Pro-Life” did a better job at creating public policies that support mothers, rather than focusing so much effort on making abortion illegal, groups like this wouldn’t have a reason to exist.
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nice Signature! 👍
 
Let’s just put it this way:

I can put a trashcan in an alley, fill it full of garbage, and put a label that says “Catholic” on it. I don’t think it makes the trashcan anymore of a catholic than these people claim to be. Anyone can SAY they are catholic…lots of people do and only show up to church on Christmas (some not at all).
 
bellasbane said:
This group give me the creeps and I don’t approve of their use of the word “Catholic” to describe themselves.

However, they do highlight an important factor that the “pro-life” politicians often seem to forget - mothers.

Perhaps if the politicians who call themselves “Pro-Life” did a better job at creating public policies that support mothers, rather than focusing so much effort on making abortion illegal, groups like this wouldn’t have a reason to exist.
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Pro-life politicians do support public policies that support mothers. There is a valid political differences as to what the best way to accomplish this is but the idea that disagreeing with somebody’s political policies in any way justifies abortion is specious.
 
estesbob said:
Pro-life politicians do support public policies that support mothers.
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Surely you jest. Everything put on the table is a long series of catch-22’s & double jeopardy.
estesbob said:
There is a valid political differences as to what the best way to accomplish this
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If you mean to fail, all you’ve got to do is insert poison pills in the legislation and guarantee your half hearted efforts will fail. If abortion were ever outlawed, how many of you are prepared to catch a million baby moses floating down the river?
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…but the idea that disagreeing with somebody’s political policies in any way justifies abortion is specious.
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Ban abortion it will only go underground and not be counted honestly anymore the same way it was never counted before in the 60’s. If the numbers bother you so much you prefer not to know, don’t look at them. If the numbers bother you so much you mean to turn that tide, you’ll have to roll up your sleeves and get serious about the subject comprehensively.
You can’t ever solve something you refuse to look at in depth. The left is gung ho for prevention and you could make far more progress from that direction. Drop the ‘only’ out of abstinence only training, young people most at risk will get the comprehensive education most needful. Not the ‘indoctrination’ of bc made out to be in debates. Specify the full upside and downside of bc- the false sense of security & consequence of STD’s. The emphasis on the full value & wisdom of abstinence, and forewarning in teen years what is the harsh ugliest choice reality of abortion. The full consequences laid out with no embellishments is an education that isn’t preying on anyone under duress conditions. This is but one of many reasonable means to go about things.

Abiding a papal encyclical is religion. That mandate cannot be imposed on public schools or on free society through writ. You either uphold that higher calling of your own free will or you do not.

Creating arguments where there should be none betrays pro life as disingenuous at best. There are far too many extraneous agendas shoved into it ensuring the perpetuation & profit of strife. Whose ‘side’ are you on again?
 
juliee said:
“Catholic” Group: Obama Should Do More to Promote Abortion

Washington, DC – President Barack Obama has become the “abortion president,” according to the pro-life leader in Congress but one “pro-choice, Catholic” group says he hasn’t done enough to promote abortion while in office.

lifenews.com/2011/05/09/catholic-group-obama-should-do-more-to-promote-abortion/
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In 1996, Bishop Bruskewitz of Nebraska formally excommunicated Catholics for Free Choice (now called Catholics for Choice). The USCCB has described CFC as a “non-Catholic organization”. So should we. CFC and its members are not Catholic. They can call themselves whatever they want, but the bishops have spoken on this issue and it has not been repealed. If you are a member of CFC, you incur a latia sententia excommunication and are not Catholic.
 
Scott_Lafrance said:
In 1996, Bishop Bruskewitz of Nebraska formally excommunicated Catholics for Free Choice (now called Catholics for Choice). The USCCB has described CFC as a “non-Catholic organization”. So should we. CFC and its members are not Catholic. They can call themselves whatever they want, but the bishops have spoken on this issue and it has not been repealed. If you are a member of CFC, you incur a latia sententia excommunication and are not Catholic.
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:clapping::clapping::clapping:

Hooray! One of our Bishops did the right thing! God bless him. 👍
 
Kelly Green,
I can’t quote your post, but I wanted to reply…

WRT numbers of abortions, you see to be unaware of the article of “Confession of an Abortionist” by Dr Bernard Nathanson, co-founder of NARAL turned pro-life advocate and Catholic. He describes how NARAL just made up and exaggerated numbers of women obtaining and dying from abortion for the purpose of gaining more sympathy for their cause.

In addition we can see a rapid rise after abortion laws were tossed out. The idea that abortions were occurring in the millions or hundred-thousands before legalization and legalization allowed these abortions to take place under more healthy circumstances is purely wrong, untrue, and a lie perptrated by advocates of abortion.

In additiin, despite the fact that at the same time support for poor women and education in use of birth control was increasing, abortion numners rose. Your ideas that providing education and help for pregnant women and single mothers is contradicted by the reality: long before abortion was legalized, when information about contraception was passed along and there was very little help for “unwed mothers,” who were sent away and their babies put up for adoption, and when there not much of a safety net, well, back then there were very few abortion or illegitimate births. Why? Because back then women who did not feel ready to have a baby *did not have sex. *
 
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