Catholic guy dating a JW girl.. Please help..

[DJK100]

This is my advise, question your faith. Look to the bible for answers. It’s obvious that she has answers from the bible that keep her from mixing with other faiths. I will give you some scriptures to go over and you can reason if your faith is acceptable to God. PSALMS 115: 2-9 1JOHN 5:21 ACTS 17:29 these might help you understand why she doesn’t want to get involved with a Catholic guy. 2CORINTHIANS 6:14,16 be reasonable and don’t take all this personal but I’m sure she knows all these Scriptures and these are the words in Gods word that keeps her focused on pleasing God. (2Corinthians 17,18)

It’s funny how you try to use the above verses to condem catholics as Idolators. Why don’t learn what Catholics believe rather than what you think they believe and do before you post things like this. That is if you dare… You just might find your self become Catholic — booga booga!

I’ll help you get started… catholic.com/tracts/do-catholics-worship-statues

 

[JustaServant]

This is my advise, question your faith. Look to the bible for answers. It’s obvious that she has answers from the bible that keep her from mixing with other faiths. I will give you some scriptures to go over and you can reason if your faith is acceptable to God. PSALMS 115: 2-9 1JOHN 5:21 ACTS 17:29 these might help you understand why she doesn’t want to get involved with a Catholic guy. 2CORINTHIANS 6:14,16 be reasonable and don’t take all this personal but I’m sure she knows all these Scriptures and these are the words in Gods word that keeps her focused on pleasing God. (2Corinthians 17,18)

:newidea:
Wow! What an idea! Us poor dumb Catholics don’t know anything about the Bible.
Thanks for the suggestion.

 

[DJK100]

Hi JNoel,

Here are some tracts for you to read and maybe even pass onto your girlfriend.

catholic.com/tracts/stumpers-for-the-jehovahs-witnesses
catholic.com/tracts/more-stumpers-for-the-jehovahs-witnesses

 

[JustaServant]

When I attended a fundamentalist church years ago I remember a couple of single girls in the church had, what some jokingly called a “dating ministry”. They would date “unsaved” guys and entice them to become Christians. This feeds into the lowest form of human nature IMHO. That might not be the case with this girl, but I would like to be the fly on the wall when she talks to her friends;

 

[faerie114]

Let me add one of my own: “Gimme a break”.

:tiphat:

 

[Shannon9791]

This is my advise, question your faith. Look to the bible for answers. It’s obvious that she has answers from the bible that keep her from mixing with other faiths. I will give you some scriptures to go over and you can reason if your faith is acceptable to God. PSALMS 115: 2-9 1JOHN 5:21 ACTS 17:29 these might help you understand why she doesn’t want to get involved with a Catholic guy. 2CORINTHIANS 6:14,16 be reasonable and don’t take all this personal but I’m sure she knows all these Scriptures and these are the words in Gods word that keeps her focused on pleasing God. (2Corinthians 17,18)

So much for subtlety, right?

It’s wonderful that you would come to a Catholic forum and tell a Catholic to question his faith and all, but why hide behind your computer screen? If you feel you have the answers to stump us, start a new thread and by all means, feel free to stump us. I’d be willing to bet that if you can prove your positions biblically, we’d all run to the closest Kingdom Hall and sign right up. So, to you, the gauntlet has be thrown. Start a new thread, blow our mortal minds, and win hundreds of converts for your religion.

 

[JustaServant]

So much for subtlety, right?

It’s wonderful that you would come to a Catholic forum and tell a Catholic to question his faith and all, but why hide behind your computer screen? If you feel you have the answers to stump us, start a new thread and by all means, feel free to stump us. I’d be willing to bet that if you can prove your positions biblically, we’d all run to the closest Kingdom Hall and sign right up. So, to you, the gauntlet has be thrown. Start a new thread, blow our mortal minds, and win hundreds of converts for your religion.

Send a PM to Eric asking if we can ‘play with our food’ be he devours him.

 

[Shannon9791]

Send a PM to Eric asking if we can ‘play with our food’ be he devours him.

I would, but I don’t think s/he’s brave enough to start a new thread, but we do welcome the challenge. I stand by what I said too, if s/he can show me biblically where they’re right and we’re wrong, I’ll run to the nearest Kingdom Hall and convert TODAY.

 

[yellowbird]

I would, but I don’t think s/he’s brave enough to start a new thread, but we do welcome the challenge. I stand by what I said too, if s/he can show me biblically where they’re right and we’re wrong, I’ll run to the nearest Kingdom Hall and convert TODAY.

Me too! I’ll denounce my Catholic ways and head right back to the Kingdom Hall I attended for years. Be careful though… I’ve already drank the kool-aid… I know every single thing you’re going to say before you say it. Only now I am armed with the correct answers… not the ones I spoon fed and brainwashed into believing. Thanks to the internet, I have access to the actual Watchtower documents showing how they’ve changed their mind so many times. If the Watchtower is the “mouthpiece for Jehovah” as they claim, we’re all in trouble because he is clearly schizophrenic, and he makes promises he doesn’t keep. This generation will not pass away… Millions now living will not die… ring any bells?

Thankfully that is NOT the case. The Watchtower is just another false prophet in a long line of false prophets.

If you want to talk about it though… bring it on. I’ll talk to you all day long, and I’m not even reporting my time.

 

[Kc906]

Thanks for the advice my friend. Don’t worry,for now,I’m not considering that much to go to Bible Study. I’m quite busy these days because I’m a teacher. Also, I’ll remember to study again and again the Catholic faith and how to defend it. I’m not rushing things… O will also pray for God’s guidance. Thanks alot my friend…

Peace to you friend; I like you am in the exact same situation at this very moment. I began dating an unbaptized JW almost 2 years ago, and everything was and is perfect in our relationship aside from the religion difference. Don’t get me wrong, there is a HUGE difference in beliefs, and there are many things that should be discussed before you could even marry this woman.

I agreed to have a 1 on 1 bible study (no magazines or books) with my girlfiend after we had been dating for 8 months, I brought up the religion difference after about 6 months and then the discussion got started. By this point I had already heavily invested countless hours into learning about the JW religion, and the false teachings that they preach. I compared their arguments against Catholics (and all previous Christian groups really) to what The Church teaches and defends, and I am happy to say that I have been home in the Church that Jesus Christ founded for my entire life. As a man, I have declared my love for God and my wish to have him in my life for the remainder of my days. With this being the case, I will be the Head of any family that I am apart of since I accept this role that our God has bestowed upon us as men. There are plenty of verses in the New Testament that discuss the man’s role as the Head of the family, and the JW’s strongly affirm this as truth as well.

I have declared this to my girlfriend, and my intentions are to raise our family (if we get married) as Catholics, without question. I personally don’t believe it is right to teach children two different sets of beliefs, especially when one set of beliefs are false, and will involve them disparraging Dad and his Church much of the time. So I have stated that they will not be taught anything that is a unique belief of the JW’s at all, but she is free to talk about God with them of course.

I personally don’t believe this is something that she can commit to, because they are indoctrinated with teaching the “truth” to all people, so I don’t see how she could hold back from teaching her own children. She is not even allowed to be baptized because of her relationship with me, which just shows you the extent to which they “Control” their congregations. Granted, they do not have a valid baptism in God’s eyes, but the point is the power the “Elders” have over the lost sheep they preach to. I know that I am planting seeds in her head, as there have been plenty of times when I have brought up things that she doesn’t believe and I can see the look on her face like “did he just explain this how I think he did?”

In the end I truly feel that I am letting God work through me, and I know that my soul will be at peace no matter what the outcome is. I felt my story could be another thing that can help you along your journey as God leads you to your destination; God Bless!

 

[Busy_bee]

So much for subtlety, right?

It’s wonderful that you would come to a Catholic forum and tell a Catholic to question his faith and all, but why hide behind your computer screen? If you feel you have the answers to stump us, start a new thread and by all means, feel free to stump us. I’d be willing to bet that if you can prove your positions biblically, we’d all run to the closest Kingdom Hall and sign right up. So, to you, the gauntlet has be thrown. Start a new thread, blow our mortal minds, and win hundreds of converts for your religion.

Oh yeah!:extrahappy:
BOLD. I like:thumbsup:

 

[Busy_bee]

Thanks. I’ll be careful… It just dawned to me that her sister JW, is married to a Catholic guy. And she’s not shunned,atleast completely. Her JW family and friends still love her.

Is that so? See, you have a real life situation on your hands. Whose church are the children attending (if they have any)? Does the sister still attend the Kingdom Hall meetings? Does she go to the guy’s church?
After answering these questions, ask yourself if you can settle for this kind of life? Can you live like this?
You know all this while I thought you really cared about the Truth and wanted others to come to see it too. If you are sure that 1+1=2, why do you sound so willing to settle for 11/2? I don’t get you brother. Are you actually going to do this with eyes wide open? Come on!

 

[Busy_bee]

Peace to you friend; I like you am in the exact same situation at this very moment. I began dating an unbaptized JW almost 2 years ago, and everything was and is perfect in our relationship aside from the religion difference. Don’t get me wrong, there is a HUGE difference in beliefs, and there are many things that should be discussed before you could even marry this woman.

I agreed to have a 1 on 1 bible study (no magazines or books) with my girlfiend after we had been dating for 8 months, I brought up the religion difference after about 6 months and then the discussion got started. By this point I had already heavily invested countless hours into learning about the JW religion, and the false teachings that they preach. I compared their arguments against Catholics (and all previous Christian groups really) to what The Church teaches and defends, and I am happy to say that I have been home in the Church that Jesus Christ founded for my entire life. As a man, I have declared my love for God and my wish to have him in my life for the remainder of my days. With this being the case, I will be the Head of any family that I am apart of since I accept this role that our God has bestowed upon us as men. There are plenty of verses in the New Testament that discuss the man’s role as the Head of the family, and the JW’s strongly affirm this as truth as well.

I have declared this to my girlfriend, and my intentions are to raise our family (if we get married) as Catholics, without question. I personally don’t believe it is right to teach children two different sets of beliefs, especially when one set of beliefs are false, and will involve them disparraging Dad and his Church much of the time. So I have stated that they will not be taught anything that is a unique belief of the JW’s at all, but she is free to talk about God with them of course.

I personally don’t believe this is something that she can commit to, because they are indoctrinated with teaching the “truth” to all people, so I don’t see how she could hold back from teaching her own children. She is not even allowed to be baptized because of her relationship with me, which just shows you the extent to which they “Control” their congregations. Granted, they do not have a valid baptism in God’s eyes, but the point is the power the “Elders” have over the lost sheep they preach to. I know that I am planting seeds in her head, as there have been plenty of times when I have brought up things that she doesn’t believe and I can see the look on her face like “did he just explain this how I think he did?”

In the end I truly feel that I am letting God work through me, and I know that my soul will be at peace no matter what the outcome is. I felt my story could be another thing that can help you along your journey as God leads you to your destination; God Bless!

See, you are in almost the same situation as our friend is,but there is a major difference. You know what you are up against and have started dealing with it accordingly by letting her know who’s boss(you are the husband), telling her point blank that you will be true to your faith( therefore the children will be reared as catholics) abd trying to make her see reason with your faith! Our man is not doing that at all. He is on the receiving end(it’s like the girl is doing what you are doing and he’s doing what your lady is doing!) It’s in reverse.

Please, man, talk to him. Let him take a cue from you.

 

[Incomplete]

Here’s a couple of my concerns for you:

1. Earlier you said something about her coming to Mass and…did you say Bible Study or RCIA?.. sometimes if you get married. But long before that, she should go to RCIA, just to learn about Catholic beliefs. As others have said, it seems fairly one-sided.She says she is open to you, but she wants you to go to a Bible Study (where others will be there to bombard you with their beliefs) and, if she is going to learn, she learns only from you if she doesn’t go to RCIA. Note the difference in pressure.
2. This bothers me a lot: in an earlier post, you said you told her you could not promise to convert. But that’s obviously a statement that gives her hope that you can. In fact, you have told us you will not convert. Why not be that honest with her and tell you you will never convert?

It seems that she is dominating this. You need to put God first.

You have also mentioned a break up. Does that mean you don’t see her anymore? If not, it’s time to spend these three years both learning more about your Church (to defend it) and to date others.

 

[jnoelbalana14]

Good day, my friends in Christ! Thank you so much for your replies that really make me reconsider my stand.

I will not be leaving the Church,at all cost. I rather lose her than lose my soul forever. The weirdest doctrine they have is that Christ is not God. The have the NWT bible that is full of inconsistencies and errors. I will agree to have a bible study but I will step back once they use “biased” sources. Bible alone, Bible. I will be using the NIV version in the study, not the NWT.

Another, this breakup means that we will have limited communication and won’t be seeing each other too much. Like what I’ve said, she’s just 17 and I’m just 20. We’re too young. This 3 years will give us three years to set our priorities in life first. Also, this 3 years could really test our relationship if it’s founded in “True Love”.

I will be setting forth my stand that I will remain a Catholic for the rest of my life and in our future children, if we can work it out. I will also raise my children as Catholics. I love the suggestions of Kc906 to use bible verses to tell her that I,the father, must be the HEAD of the family and my wife and children. They must submit themselves to me. If she can’t accept that fact, then I have to move on.

However, I will allow her to practice her faith if we get married. She may share JW insights but we will try our best not to offend each other’s beliefs. We will try our best to respect and love each other. If she really loves me, she will accept and love me the way I am. She will not try to change me at all.

I will also try my best to make her read some eye-opening errors of JW beliefs. She already told me that she’s openminded. Who knows, Jesus may touch her heart…

I really appreciate your comments and thank you so much for helping me to strengthen my faith. Without your comments, maybe I’m still so lost and indecisive. I will go to mass regularly and ready my Bible. Please pray for me and pray with me. Godbless

 

[Incomplete]

Good day, my friends in Christ! Thank you so much for your replies that really make me reconsider my stand.

I will not be leaving the Church,at all cost. I rather lose her than lose my soul forever. The weirdest doctrine they have is that Christ is not God. The have the NWT bible that is full of inconsistencies and errors. I will agree to have a bible study but I will step back once they use “biased” sources. Bible alone, Bible. I will be using the NIV version in the study, not the NWT.

Another, this breakup means that we will have limited communication and won’t be seeing each other too much. Like what I’ve said, she’s just 17 and I’m just 20. We’re too young. This 3 years will give us three years to set our priorities in life first. Also, this 3 years could really test our relationship if it’s founded in “True Love”.

I will be setting forth my stand that I will remain a Catholic for the rest of my life and in our future children, if we can work it out. I will also raise my children as Catholics. I love the suggestions of Kc906 to use bible verses to tell her that I,the father, must be the HEAD of the family and my wife and children. They must submit themselves to me. If she can’t accept that fact, then I have to move on.

However, I will allow her to practice her faith if we get married. She may share JW insights but we will try our best not to offend each other’s beliefs. We will try our best to respect and love each other. If she really loves me, she will accept and love me the way I am. She will not try to change me at all.

I will also try my best to make her read some eye-opening errors of JW beliefs. She already told me that she’s openminded. Who knows, Jesus may touch her heart…

I really appreciate your comments and thank you so much for helping me to strengthen my faith. Without your comments, maybe I’m still so lost and indecisive. I will go to mass regularly and ready my Bible. Please pray for me and pray with me. Godbless

Praying for both of you. You have a good game plan here, especially going to Mass regularly. I hope this means as close to daily as you can, because daily Mass can change your life.

 

[FabiusMaximus]

She has been a JW since birth and almost all her family lineage is JWs… I don’t think she is considering converting to RC…

You know I once heard a crazy story about God becoming man and dying on a cross to save his creation. And you know what’s crazier? APPARENTLY HE ROSE FROM THE DEAD!
Absurdity, right?

Family lineage doesn’t matter. The Christian influences in her life do.

My parents were Roman Catholics at birth, as far as I know, my family has been majority Roman Catholic ever since the faith reached Italy.

Yet my parents converted to Pentecostalism in the 1970s.
If one truly believes, family won’t be enough to hold them back.

 

[Pepband_Mom]

Thank you for your reply. She don’t force me to bible study. She stresses I have the freedom to bible study or not. She tells me that it’ll be a big help to understand her faith more and if I “improve”,then we can be married right away. She tells me that she’ll be waiting for me and she’ll not entertain any suitors while I’m studying…

This girl is putting a CONDITION on your relationship, you have the “freedom” to study or not but if you “IMPROVE” then you can be married right away??? WOW, there is a problem here - If this girl loves you for WHO YOU ARE RIGHT NOW, she would show honesty & maturity by not making strong DEMANDS on you. “improve” sounds like a code word for “BECOME A JW.”

Consider being unequally yoked; as you mentioned as the MAN of the home, would she respect your God-given position in the home as a Catholic Husband and Father?
Consider the trapdoor JW’s pull when a spouse won’t convert, they divorce & take the children & her whole family shuns you.
Consider a potential lifetime of pain and REGRET, perhaps losing your family, worst of all losing the faith that you know to be the truth.
Consider the theological disaster you would have to battle with constantly; you would have to be very strong to be in peace.

Marry a WOMAN - A woman that LOVES YOU FOR WHO YOU ARE, THE MAN YOU ARE RIGHT NOW; that RESPECTS your CATHOLICISM, whether she is or not!

PRAY for the LORD to give you direction, get out your ROSARY! Ask GOD: What is your will for me??? HE will tell you :heaven: and yes go to daily Mass.

Also, get Jason Evert’s book on Jehovah’s Witnesses - you can get on this website - go to catholic.com → book store; it is the best comparing JW’s to Roman Catholicism and study, study, study up on it!!!

My brother years ago broke up with a wonderful Mormon girlfriend - she dumped him because he wouldn’t convert and it was painful but in the long run, was a good thing!!!

God Bless You!

 

[TRUTHBETOLDTOAL]

So much for subtlety, right?

It’s wonderful that you would come to a Catholic forum and tell a Catholic to question his faith and all, but why hide behind your computer screen? If you feel you have the answers to stump us, start a new thread and by all means, feel free to stump us. I’d be willing to bet that if you can prove your positions biblically, we’d all run to the closest Kingdom Hall and sign right up. So, to you, the gauntlet has be thrown. Start a new thread, blow our mortal minds, and win hundreds of converts for your religion.

It’s ok to defensive, but there is no need. I’m not a JW, just an open minded man thanks to Jehovah. Yes I do accept Jehovah as Gods name just like the new King James bible has just recently. I do know some JW’s and I do enjoy listening to there beliefs. I have taken it upon my self to study the bible and get understanding from Jehovah. Not to debate or to start mess. Gods word is important to me and through His word He talks to me. When I first read Matthew chapter 6 it opened my mind to millions of questions. I asked God for answers, no one else He is helping Me. If you would like for me to start a new thread then I will, but as long as it is for understanding Gods word and no ones else’s. I’m not Catholic but I would like to understand what you believe if you don’t mind.

 

[Trevor_Stamm]

It’s ok to defensive, but there is no need. I’m not a JW, just an open minded man thanks to Jehovah. Yes I do accept Jehovah as Gods name just like the new King James bible has just recently. I do know some JW’s and I do enjoy listening to there beliefs. I have taken it upon my self to study the bible and get understanding from Jehovah. Not to debate or to start mess. Gods word is important to me and through His word He talks to me. When I first read Matthew chapter 6 it opened my mind to millions of questions. I asked God for answers, no one else He is helping Me. If you would like for me to start a new thread then I will, but as long as it is for understanding Gods word and no ones else’s. I’m not Catholic but I would like to understand what you believe if you don’t mind.

I suggest you go here at vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/_INDEX.HTM Most don’t take it upon themselves to read it, whether by laziness or sheer intimidation of how much reading it is but rest assured it’s a mere summary, there’s thousands more of pages to go in greater detail