Catholic guy dating a JW girl.. Please help..

[TRUTHBETOLDTOAL]

I suggest you go here at vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/_INDEX.HTM Most don’t take it upon themselves to read it, whether by laziness or sheer intimidation of how much reading it is but rest assured it’s a mere summary, there’s thousands more of pages to go in greater detail

Read some of it but I’m more interested of yalls personal feelings for what you believe. Like what I describe in my comment. Something that is felt towards God and what he is teaching you as a person. Hope this is taken seriously because I am searching for why I feel so different than others about His word.

 

[domandcarols]

Good day, my friends in Christ! Thank you so much for your replies that really make me reconsider my stand.

I will not be leaving the Church,at all cost. I rather lose her than lose my soul forever. The weirdest doctrine they have is that Christ is not God. The have the NWT bible that is full of inconsistencies and errors. I will agree to have a bible study but I will step back once they use “biased” sources. Bible alone, Bible. I will be using the NIV version in the study, not the NWT.

Another, this breakup means that we will have limited communication and won’t be seeing each other too much. Like what I’ve said, she’s just 17 and I’m just 20. We’re too young. This 3 years will give us three years to set our priorities in life first. Also, this 3 years could really test our relationship if it’s founded in “True Love”.

I will be setting forth my stand that I will remain a Catholic for the rest of my life and in our future children, if we can work it out. I will also raise my children as Catholics. I love the suggestions of Kc906 to use bible verses to tell her that I,the father, must be the HEAD of the family and my wife and children. They must submit themselves to me. If she can’t accept that fact, then I have to move on.

However, I will allow her to practice her faith if we get married. She may share JW insights but we will try our best not to offend each other’s beliefs. We will try our best to respect and love each other. If she really loves me, she will accept and love me the way I am. She will not try to change me at all.

I will also try my best to make her read some eye-opening errors of JW beliefs. She already told me that she’s openminded. Who knows, Jesus may touch her heart…

I really appreciate your comments and thank you so much for helping me to strengthen my faith. Without your comments, maybe I’m still so lost and indecisive. I will go to mass regularly and ready my Bible. Please pray for me and pray with me. Godbless

You are doing the right thing, I admire you. I will be praying very hard for you. I suggest you go to daily mass any time you feel your faith wavering, always stay afterward to pray the rosary and go to Adoration whenever you can. God bless you, brother! I will be praying for her as well.

 

[Eric_Hilbert]

Stay on the topic please

 

[Shannon9791]

Good day, my friends in Christ! Thank you so much for your replies that really make me reconsider my stand.

I will not be leaving the Church,at all cost. I rather lose her than lose my soul forever. The weirdest doctrine they have is that Christ is not God. The have the NWT bible that is full of inconsistencies and errors. I will agree to have a bible study but I will step back once they use “biased” sources. Bible alone, Bible. I will be using the NIV version in the study, not the NWT.

Another, this breakup means that we will have limited communication and won’t be seeing each other too much. Like what I’ve said, she’s just 17 and I’m just 20. We’re too young. This 3 years will give us three years to set our priorities in life first. Also, this 3 years could really test our relationship if it’s founded in “True Love”.

I will be setting forth my stand that I will remain a Catholic for the rest of my life and in our future children, if we can work it out. I will also raise my children as Catholics. I love the suggestions of Kc906 to use bible verses to tell her that I,the father, must be the HEAD of the family and my wife and children. They must submit themselves to me. If she can’t accept that fact, then I have to move on.

However, I will allow her to practice her faith if we get married. She may share JW insights but we will try our best not to offend each other’s beliefs. We will try our best to respect and love each other. If she really loves me, she will accept and love me the way I am. She will not try to change me at all.

I will also try my best to make her read some eye-opening errors of JW beliefs. She already told me that she’s openminded. Who knows, Jesus may touch her heart…

I really appreciate your comments and thank you so much for helping me to strengthen my faith. Without your comments, maybe I’m still so lost and indecisive. I will go to mass regularly and ready my Bible. Please pray for me and pray with me. Godbless

I said it before, and I’ll say it again: Dude, you’re gettin played! You’re willing to waste 3 years of your life studying JW nonsense for a maybe? That’s 3 years you will never ever get back! I understand you’re young, (not that I’m old or anything) but each day that passes means you’re one day older. I’m not saying you should be out partying or running around with lots of other girls, but think about all the really good CATHOLIC girls you’re going to miss out on in that time, and every man who has responded to you in this thread will tell you, Catholic girls are the best looking girls on the planet, hands down! Look, you seem like a great dude, someone who is full of love and willing to share it with others. I promise you there is a Catholic girl out there who is more than willing to accept someone like you in their life without the pretense of having to change who you are. Unless this girl is willing to cook your favorite meal every night, do all the yard work and fix your car when it breaks down all while letting you watch your favorite sports team do what they do, it’s really time to move on brother.

It’s ok to defensive, but there is no need. I’m not a JW, just an open minded man thanks to Jehovah. Yes I do accept Jehovah as Gods name just like the new King James bible has just recently. I do know some JW’s and I do enjoy listening to there beliefs. I have taken it upon my self to study the bible and get understanding from Jehovah. Not to debate or to start mess. Gods word is important to me and through His word He talks to me. When I first read Matthew chapter 6 it opened my mind to millions of questions. I asked God for answers, no one else He is helping Me. If you would like for me to start a new thread then I will, but as long as it is for understanding Gods word and no ones else’s. I’m not Catholic but I would like to understand what you believe if you don’t mind.

I’m not defensive at all. You came into our world and spouted off some silliness that was completely contrary to what we were saying. I simply challenged you to stand by what you were saying. Ok, so you’re not a JW, that’s fine, start a new thread with topics you’d like discussed regarding Catholicism and we’ll be more than happy to answer them.

 

[Khalid]

If the Watchtower is the “mouthpiece for Jehovah” as they claim, we’re all in trouble because he is clearly schizophrenic, and he makes promises he doesn’t keep. This generation will not pass away… Millions now living will not die… ring any bells?

I’m surprised Richard Dawkins & Company aren’t Jehovah’s Witnesses - I’ve heard him at least once categorically state that YHWH God is a schizophrenic madman. Wouldn’t they find a religion that has a schizophrenic god to their liking?

I’ve read through the laundry-lists of false prophecies the WTS and Presidents have made, the slight (and not so slight) alterations in the printing of new editions (I have an original 1886-1904 6-volume set of Millennial Dawn to check against). But, in all honesty, the Mormons change core doctrinal positions more often.

See, you are in almost the same situation as our friend is,but there is a major difference. You know what you are up against and have started dealing with it accordingly by letting her know who’s boss(you are the husband), telling her point blank that you will be true to your faith( therefore the children will be reared as catholics) abd trying to make her see reason with your faith! Our man is not doing that at all. He is on the receiving end(it’s like the girl is doing what you are doing and he’s doing what your lady is doing!) It’s in reverse.

Please, man, talk to him. Let him take a cue from you.

The notes in the ESV study Bible brought up an interesting point relating to this: when Adam failed to exercise his divinely-ordained authority as Husband and Head of Household, and followed the whims of his wife…

…the Fall of Man was the result.

I suggest you go here at vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/_INDEX.HTM Most don’t take it upon themselves to read it, whether by laziness or sheer intimidation of how much reading it is but rest assured it’s a mere summary, there’s thousands more of pages to go in greater detail

That actually means I’m the odd man out for reading the entire thing (the white hardcover book with gilt on the corners) in about a week (my English wasn’t nearly as good then, as I was only a beginning-to-intermediate reader of English,* so I read it in English to help improve my own: thus it took me much longer at that time than reading in Latin would have) when I first looked in to Catholicism? (I later read the Roman Catechism and the Baltimore Catechism as well.) I thought all Catholics were required to learn (and memorize) the Catechism. I memorized that 700-page monstrosity for nothing? I thought it was a prerequisite to my admittance in to the Latin rite (which I’m still trying to get…).

*Contrary to the impression given in my posts, I am still an intermediate speaker of English. I can read far more languages than I can write, and I can read and write a few more languages than I can speak (Attic and Koine Greek come to mind: I have no idea how to speak them, but I am proficient in reading them - but my ability to compose proper Attic Greek is very limited).

 

[Khalid]

See, you are in almost the same situation as our friend is,but there is a major difference. You know what you are up against and have started dealing with it accordingly by letting her know who’s boss(you are the husband), telling her point blank that you will be true to your faith( therefore the children will be reared as catholics) abd trying to make her see reason with your faith! Our man is not doing that at all. He is on the receiving end(it’s like the girl is doing what you are doing and he’s doing what your lady is doing!) It’s in reverse.

Please, man, talk to him. Let him take a cue from you.

The notes in the ESV study Bible brought up an interesting point relating to this: when Adam failed to exercise his divinely-ordained authority as Husband and Head of Household, and followed the whims of his wife…

…the Fall of Man was the result.

 

[Khalid]

I suggest you go here at vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/_INDEX.HTM Most don’t take it upon themselves to read it, whether by laziness or sheer intimidation of how much reading it is but rest assured it’s a mere summary, there’s thousands more of pages to go in greater detail

That actually means I’m the odd man out for reading the entire thing (the white hardcover book with gilt on the corners) in about a week (my English wasn’t nearly as good then, as I was only a beginning-to-intermediate reader of English,* so I read it in English to help improve my own: thus it took me much longer at that time than reading in Latin would have) when I first looked in to Catholicism? (I later read the Roman Catechism and the Baltimore Catechism as well.) I thought all Catholics had to learn the Catechism.

*Contrary to the impression given in my posts, I am still an intermediate speaker of English. I can read far more languages than I can write, and I can read and write a few more languages than I can speak.

 

[jnoelbalana14]

Good day, my brothers in Christ!

To be honest, I don’t know what will happen after 3 years or during three years. There could be other girl who will capture my heart or my heart will still wait for my JW girlfriend. I just don’t know at this moment.

What I’m certain in this moment is that I will not leave the Catholic Faith. And attending the Bible Study is not my priority. I will go to mass regular and pray to God to lead me all my days. Right now, I’m on my shaky knees and broken heart because I love the girl so much and I know she is also too me. We’re just too young that’s why her parents don’t want us to continue our relationship for the meantime.

I really appreciate your comments guys. Please pray for me and pray with me. My heart is really wounded and powdered at this moment but I know I will be okay…

 

[Incomplete]

Good day, my brothers in Christ!

To be honest, I don’t know what will happen after 3 years or during three years. There could be other girl who will capture my heart or my heart will still wait for my JW girlfriend. I just don’t know at this moment.

What I’m certain in this moment is that I will not leave the Catholic Faith. And attending the Bible Study is not my priority. I will go to mass regular and pray to God to lead me all my days. Right now, I’m on my shaky knees and broken heart because I love the girl so much and I know she is also too me. We’re just too young that’s why her parents don’t want us to continue our relationship for the meantime.

I really appreciate your comments guys. Please pray for me and pray with me. My heart is really wounded and powdered at this moment but I know I will be okay…

I am praying for you.

 

[Pepband_Mom]

Jnoel:

Confusion is not from God be assured. You are young to consider marriage. Your heart is broken but it will mend in good time. Be prepared: this may even happen again or even several times before you find your soulmate. Trust God on this, he will send the right person to you at the right time.

Marry a person of the Faith, Sacraments will be HUGE for the two of you, helping you to weather many different storms, sometimes very rough that come across your path. Sacramental Graces are like “GLUE”, holds you together, helps your dedication, helps you to be more determined to succeed in marriage & notice love grow much, much deeper. I know this to be the case, without weekly mass without fail for nearly 19 years, I don’t know how we would have made it. My husband became a Eucharistic Minister several years ago and lately he mentioned his prayer life has jumped up to a new level. Also, confession helps make you humble, it melts “my way or the highway” attitude, help you settle down & learn from your mistakes; helps us grow, grow up.

I dated a bunch of various types: divorced couldn’t get re-married in the Church Catholics, atheists, non-believers, Protestants. I said to myself “NO WAY”, it’s a Catholic or no one. I saw some differences with a Catholic Mom and a non-practicing semi-Methodist Dad (but had good values) but dedicated myself to: “I want the BEST SPIRITUAL SITUATION I can for myself, my future husband and children”.

Vital for spouse to have same Values, Morals, etc as you do, one who is convicted, confirmed, commited in her faith; who is devoted to Christ and goes to Mass at least weekly. Marriage is hard enough and under assault from the evil one; the temptations, inclinations towards selfishness, the unforeseen events with jobs, money, health, even tragedy, loss - we’ve gone through a great deal. To be unequally yoked from the get-go is putting a huge stressful burden right away before it even gets off the ground.

Somehow after you go through painful times together, it’s strange, later you don’t remember how bad or even awful it was at the time. When the pain is over, it fades away! Joy, however, is much different, Joy keeps coming back & grows. That is the mystery of marriage to me! You so remember loving, funny, joyful, crazy times way more & laugh about those things!

As to what Archbishop Fulton Sheen said in a book I have of his, it takes “3 to Get Married”: You, Your Bride and God (the Trinity - that is sooooo true )

 

[Hello_All]

just recalled ,our priest told us that a JW girl converted to RC,after she attended Marriage Encounter seminar with her Catholic bf then,now her husband.Her family disowned her and truly broke her heart! Terrible.

 

[OraLabora]

I know what they believe.I researched so many time about their religion and I’ve also so JW friends… .But perhaps they want me to undergo study for me to understand more their faith…

No, they want you to undergo study to convert you. Once it becomes clear you won’t convert, you will be shunned and the relationship will likely be over.

I don’t know how old you are so it’s hard to give good advice, but my suggestion would be to break off the relationship. You will be literally caught between a rock and a hard place and you will have to choose between your eternal soul and your girlfriend. With JWs it’s all or nothing. And worse if you do become JW for her sake you’ll be expected to shun your own Catholic family; if ever you do convert and decide to leave the JWs later you will likely lose your wife and perhaps children and be shunned by the JWs, and you will have alienated your Catholic family.

I hate to sound so harsh; but the sad reality is that this is one of those inter-faith situations that has very little chance of success, because JWs are simply unwilling to show any respect to the Catholic faith.

If you’re young as I suspect you are, I know this is hard but the deeper you get yourself into this the harder it will be when the inevitable happens. Time heals though and you will eventually get over it and meet a much more suitable person in the future.

You have to ask yourself a lot of hard questions, I’m afraid. I would suggest however that you visit your priest (or better if you have one, spiritual director), because you will need a lot of support and prayer. I will keep you in my prayers, good luck.

PS: don’t get the idea that I’m against interfaith marriages; I’m married to a Protestant woman (Anglican). We have a great marriage, because the core fundamentals of our faith…baptism, Christ, the Trinity, Charity and Love, surrender to God, give us a foundation to build on. There is very little common ground possible with JWs.

 

[Busy_bee]

Great! although, we are only required to learn and understand it - but memorizing it is wonderful. You must be fully charged and ready to go.

 

[CopticChristian]

Hi! I’m a devout Catholic. I’ve recently dated a girl who is a Jehovah’s Witness. We love each other very much but religion is really a barrier. Just yesterday,she decided to broke up until I can fully understand her faith more - an allusion the she wishes me to study and eventually convert to her faith. We love each other so much but she’s afraid that we can’t make it in married life if we are from different religion. I don’t want to lose her and it seems the only hope is that I know is to attend their bible studies but I don’t think I’ll convert to them. Please help… I need your advices. Thanks alot…

You cannot attend any Bible study without learning their theology. The JW will not allow you to incorporate anything you say into their lessons as they do not have Bible study, they have theologic inculcation.

What is love? Love is willing good to another. To love the other you must will good. What is good? God alone is good. If God alone is good then your actions would reflect that love to bring that person to God. If the path is through Jesus and Jesus is the way, the truth and the light then you must bring the truth at whatever cost.

 

[veilofveronica]

Hi there,
I would recommend that, if the two of you intend to stay together, you enter into a serious discernment process regarding marriage.
Marriage has enough challenges between two individuals of the same faith. It has even more when two individuals are of totally different faiths that have little in common, such as in your case, and each person is devout within their own faith and has no intention of converting to the other religion.
You have to think of the serious questions, such as; what will your worship life be like? How do the two of you look at God? prayer? How will you raise your children? Is this lady willing to be married in a Catholic Church and/or willing to have her marriage sanctioned by a Catholic Church and willing to have her children raised Catholic? As a devout Catholic, you know that you have to have your marriage recognized by the Catholic Church and promise to raise any children you may have Catholic to remain admitted to the Sacraments. The Sacrament of Marriage is also taken gravely seriously, and these issues are some serious ones that you should both take a look at in your discernment process.
I recommend that the two of you meet with a priest and discuss these things. Take a marriage preparation course, when you are ready, but it sounds like there may be some things that need to be ironed out first. Enter into some serious prayer and thought. Let God’s will be done, and get what help you can to Discern what God’s will for you and this lady are.

God bless you on your journey.

 

[Busy_bee]

You know Jnoelbalana, this is pretty much all the good advice and promises of prayer you can expect. I doubt any new angle will be introduced in this discussion that will be of help to you. From all that has been said, make you own bouquet of what advice you need, and get to work on them. God Love you.
All the best,
Busy Bee

 

[jnoelbalana14]

Good day,my brothers in Christ!

I really appreciate your comments. At this moment, I’m on discernment process of what will be my decisions. I’m not rushing things…

To be honest, I’m hurting at this moment but I know God is there for me. I’ll be praying constantly for guidance and light in this dark road I’m facing.

I know in my heart that I love here dearly and she’s also to me. The “temporary” cool off in our relationship is never easy. We’re both crying at those moments. Like I said, whether I’m a JW or not, I bet she’s still not allowed to have a boyfriend because she’s too young(17). Her mother ideally accept any suitors when she reached 20(3 years).

I don’t know if I’ll be waiting for her or I will let others catch my heart. She assured me that she’ll not have any boyfriend nor entertain suitors as long as I don’t have a new girlfriend.

I really appreciate your comments. Please pray for me, for us. I really need it at this moment… Thanks alot…

 

[Khalid]

She assured me that she’ll not have any boyfriend nor entertain suitors as long as I don’t have a new girlfriend.

More manipulation, trying to keep you locked in until you change, holding your heart hostage so that you feel like you can’t explore other options. The relationship isn’t just unhealthy: whether on religious grounds or not, it’s psychologically abusive (that seems confirmed with yet another, “I’ll love you if you do or don’t do X” ultimatum).

I’ll let others elaborate if they care.

 

[faerie114]

She assured me that she’ll not have any boyfriend nor entertain suitors as long as I don’t have a new girlfriend.

She ‘assured’ you? It’s better for both of you to date others. Tell her she can have a boyfriend within JW, and you have a Catholic girlfriend. Then you will truly know if you want to ‘adjust’ to her beliefs or just be with someone who already shares your faith. I think it’s time for you to break up with her.

 

[1voice]

I’m willing to study but I will never convert…

Well then dont live a lie for the rest of your life.
… So you are going to sit and listen to religious garbage and let her think that it is going to be the core values that you teach your kids!??

She doesnt just want you. She wants you… and your entire belief system. She will be relentless … she has already proved it. She wants nothing to do with the truth of Catholicism … She simply wants you to give up your core values and join a cult … to make her happy … as well as the people that taught her how to win ‘converts’ and make cute little JW babies . … and I am thinking that she is using all of her feminine wiles to do it.

Being blunt … Satan sets traps… very enticing ones. This is a trap. If you go into a marriage, lying to her and to yourself … it will backfire. And it will be extremely frustrating and painful … and you will wonder how you could have been so stupid.

When will you decide to be honest? When she is taking the kids to the JW Church … and you know that they are being lied to and sent to eternity in hell because you couldnt stand up to the lie?
Hey. Seriously … Look in the mirror and yell at yourself!!! You are dealing with reality here… Fantasyland will evaporate… and you will be left with tremendous frustration and guilt for making a very bad decision.

Plus…
Eternity is a long time. The JW’s are a cult. If it was just you I would say you are about to create a huge problem for yourself … but … You will bring children into a situation that is rife with the strong possibility that they will be indoctrinated into a cult that will send them to hell. And your wife will be relentless in her demand that the kids be raised JW … no matter what she says now. Do you want that on your conscience?

You are being scammed … RUN!!!