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My Goddaughter(also my niece) is getting married this summer and the problem is, she lives a very secular life including living with her fiancee & having a secular wedding. I am going to attend- because not to attend would place a huge divide in the family. However, I would like gently remind her of her Catholic faith. I don’t think that it will change anything right now- but I’m hoping that it will accomplish two things: Let her know where I stand (be her catholic conscience) and plant the seeds for her returning to her faith later. Can anyone advise me on a way to do this without alienating her or causing her to roll her eyes and dismiss what I say as the rantings of an over-religious aunt.
Thanks for any help!
 
Don’t say anything. Buy them a family Bible or a marriage cross as a wedding gift.
 
Don’t say anything. Buy them a family Bible or a marriage cross as a wedding gift.
I’m in a similar situation and I’m thinking of giving them a marriage book from a Catholic perspective (the family Bible is a nice idea, but what’s the chances they actually decide to read it?) If memory serves, I think Fulton Sheen as a good book on marriage.
 
I’m reading more posts lately about attending weddings, mostly with Catholic people marrying outside the church. I always went to those type of weddings, not knowing any better, but in the last couple of years heard that we should think twice and perhaps not attend.

Recent posts on the Catholic Answers Forums have a lot of people saying to attend and very few advocating for non-attendance. I thought non-attendance was a way of saying that we love the person(s) too much to be seen as advocating for a sinful choice.

Understandably, its hard to not attend, especially with family members involved. Who wants to create ill will? I do recognize that attendance is supposed to encourage a person back to the Church by “our loving presence”, but gosh darn it, when do we ever make the choice to not attend? Has anyone had that experience lately? :confused:
 
I’m reading more posts lately about attending weddings, mostly with Catholic people marrying outside the church. I always went to those type of weddings, not knowing any better, but in the last couple of years heard that we should think twice and perhaps not attend.

Recent posts on the Catholic Answers Forums have a lot of people saying to attend and very few advocating for non-attendance. I thought non-attendance was a way of saying that we love the person(s) too much to be seen as advocating for a sinful choice.

Understandably, its hard to not attend, especially with family members involved. Who wants to create ill will? I do recognize that attendance is supposed to encourage a person back to the Church by “our loving presence”, but gosh darn it, when do we ever make the choice to not attend? Has anyone had that experience lately? :confused:
I’ve never seen this decision have the desired effect. You may be saying, “I love you too much to participate in your sinful choice,” but what the person hears is “You are a sinner and unworthy of my love. You have honored me by inviting me to share in one of the most important events of your life, but I choose to refuse to be part of your celebration because I know better than you the way you should be living your life.”

The only result I’ve ever seen is a deep and long-lasting rift in the family that drives the family member further away from the Church.
 
I’ve never seen this decision have the desired effect. You may be saying, “I love you too much to participate in your sinful choice,” but what the person hears is “You are a sinner and unworthy of my love. You have honored me by inviting me to share in one of the most important events of your life, but I choose to refuse to be part of your celebration because I know better than you the way you should be living your life.”

The only result I’ve ever seen is a deep and long-lasting rift in the family that drives the family member further away from the Church.
Sensational way of putting it. You can excuse yourself out of attendance to be sure, especially in cases of same-sex “weddings,” but don’t ever, ever try to “make a point.” The point you’re trying to make will not be heard.

If you can’t bring yourself to attend a presumably invalid wedding, or if you think your presence gives tacit approval, do not go but wish the couple well, send gifts and prayers. Don’t try to make a point and object.
 
My Goddaughter(also my niece) is getting married this summer and the problem is, she lives a very secular life including living with her fiancee & having a secular wedding. I am going to attend- because not to attend would place a huge divide in the family. However, I would like gently remind her of her Catholic faith. I don’t think that it will change anything right now- but I’m hoping that it will accomplish two things: Let her know where I stand (be her catholic conscience) and plant the seeds for her returning to her faith later. Can anyone advise me on a way to do this without alienating her or causing her to roll her eyes and dismiss what I say as the rantings of an over-religious aunt.
Thanks for any help!
I don’t know that there is any way you can accomplish this in the moment without them believing you are a busybody, sadly.
Privately, have a few Masses said for their conversion…and the hope that any children from the marriage will be Baptized. Many young persons who don’t think they need God, suddenly have a change of heart when they have babies.
At any rate, prayer is the most compassionate thing you can do for her. Masses said while people are living are the most efficacious.
God bless you. Pray for the girl and her fiancé.
Peace.
 
Gve a gift to the groom. There was a great book at
last weekends engaged encounter in Oregon called
“How to Survive Marrying a Catholic.” which the
niece is after all.
$8.95 on Amazon eligible for free shipping.
 
I’ve never seen this decision have the desired effect. You may be saying, “I love you too much to participate in your sinful choice,” but what the person hears is “You are a sinner and unworthy of my love. You have honored me by inviting me to share in one of the most important events of your life, but I choose to refuse to be part of your celebration because I know better than you the way you should be living your life.”

The only result I’ve ever seen is a deep and long-lasting rift in the family that drives the family member further away from the Church.
Have you ever seen the effect of going and thereby bringing the person back to practicing the Faith?

There is a clear difference between loving a person and being honored by witnessing a very bad decision on that person’s part.
 
OK, what are the Facts here?

A non-Catholic God-daughter is getting married.
Since she is Secular (and has been for years now), she couldn’t get married in the Catholic Church … even if she wanted to.

So, because this Heathen is NOT a practicing Catholic, she should be punished (in some way).

Jesus taught us to Love one another.
And, if an Enemy slaps me across the cheek, I am to turn aside, so he can hit me again.
If God-mother loves her God-daughter, then she should do nothing to slap her in the face.
This includes, at least, NOT refusing to go … NOT rubbing her nose in it, by giving her a Cat-gift … NOT bad-mouthing her in the Family.

I would see this situation differently if the God-daughter was a practicing Catholic, and her Hubby-to-be just flatly refused to step inside of a Catholic Church for the Wedding.
But, even then, why should a Catholic act like a Jerk … even when it’s OK to do so?

To me, timing is everything.
If I wanted to say something to my Niece, I would wait until after her Wedding.
By the time she was married a year, I would say whatever I wanted to (or give her a Catholic gift).
Piling up any Guilt is just NOT fair to a person who is trying to make it through her Wedding.
 
I’m in a similar situation and I’m thinking of giving them a marriage book from a Catholic perspective (the family Bible is a nice idea, but what’s the chances they actually decide to read it?) If memory serves, I think Fulton Sheen as a good book on marriage.
Yes, he does. I believe it’s called “Three to Get Married”.
 
I’m reading more posts lately about attending weddings, mostly with Catholic people marrying outside the church. I always went to those type of weddings, not knowing any better, but in the last couple of years heard that we should think twice and perhaps not attend.

Understandably, its hard to not attend, especially with family members involved. Who wants to create ill will? I do recognize that attendance is supposed to encourage a person back to the Church by “our loving presence”, but gosh darn it, when do we ever make the choice to not attend? Has anyone had that experience lately? :confused:
Retire early…I think everyone has to reach their own decision on this, and there’s no absolute answer. I even had two different priests tell me two completely opposite things when I asked the question of them. I try to think “am I going to have more impact by going, even though everyone knows my beliefs and how I feel about it” and acting loving, or will I accomplish the goal of bringing people to Christ by staying away. Sometimes the answer is different, depending on the people and circumstances. Pray about it and do what seems best to you.
 
I’m reading more posts lately about attending weddings, mostly with Catholic people marrying outside the church. I always went to those type of weddings, not knowing any better, but in the last couple of years heard that we should think twice and perhaps not attend.

Recent posts on the Catholic Answers Forums have a lot of people saying to attend and very few advocating for non-attendance. I thought non-attendance was a way of saying that we love the person(s) too much to be seen as advocating for a sinful choice.

Understandably, its hard to not attend, especially with family members involved. Who wants to create ill will? I do recognize that attendance is supposed to encourage a person back to the Church by “our loving presence”, but gosh darn it, when do we ever make the choice to not attend? Has anyone had that experience lately? :confused:
Dh and I have made that very decision twice. I think people like me don’t always speak up and advocate staying away because we are hesitant to appear overly harsh or judgmental when often even the person’s priest will tell them it is ok to go. It is my opinion that staying away from such weddings is most often the better choice, but as I said, when someone says their priest says they can go, who am I to argue? In my experience, whenever I have chosen to advocate for the more “cautious/conservative” option, I have ended up arguing about it, and I don’t always have the stomach for the fight.

As for the poster who asked if not going has ever produced the desired outcome, my answer is that the desired outcome was produced both times that dh and I chose not to attend the wedding. Of course, the desired outcome was that we were true to our beliefs, and that we didn’t give scandal by appearing to approve of something that we didn’t approve of. We didn’t change the couples’ minds, but whether or decision had a long term impact on them remains to be seen. And whether our decision had an impact on someone else is unknown. I can’t measure if there was someone at one of those weddings who would have seen us there and thought - “well if TKC’s family is ok with it, then it MUST be fine,” because that’s not the sort of thing you can measure. I will say this - our relationship with both of those couples is no different today than it was prior to their weddings. Some other family members got pretty upset, but they were truly being unreasonable and disrespectful of our beliefs, and they got over it. Today, we have the same relationship that we always had with all family members, and our hope is that by family being aware that we don’t go along with things we believe to be wrong, one of them may someday look to us for moral guidance. The fact is, sometimes you impact people without ever knowing it. And while I can hope that my example might help someone get closer to Christ, I can really only worry about my own soul (and those of my dh and kids), so ultimately my decisions to not attend invalid weddings are made with the main goal of doing what we believe to be right for the sake of our own souls.

It is an interesting question - again one that can’t be easily measured - how many times does attending for the sake of preserving family relationships result in a conversion that wouldn’t happen if the wedding had not been attended?
 
My Goddaughter(also my niece) is getting married this summer and the problem is, she lives a very secular life including living with her fiancee & having a secular wedding. I am going to attend- because not to attend would place a huge divide in the family. However, I would like gently remind her of her Catholic faith. I don’t think that it will change anything right now- but I’m hoping that it will accomplish two things: Let her know where I stand (be her catholic conscience) and plant the seeds for her returning to her faith later. Can anyone advise me on a way to do this without alienating her or causing her to roll her eyes and dismiss what I say as the rantings of an over-religious aunt.
Thanks for any help!
Hubby and I did not attend the weddings of two of our male children. Yep it caused a divide in the family. I would never attend the wedding of a Catholic outside the Church I would rather have that divide between me and my family member than the one between my Savior and me. As the bible teaches, if we love anyone more than our Lord we are not worthy of Him we must all take up our crosses and follow Him. It does indeed hurt. I think the cross Jesus carried hurt as well.
 
Have you ever seen the effect of going and thereby bringing the person back to practicing the Faith?

There is a clear difference between loving a person and being honored by witnessing a very bad decision on that person’s part.
Friends had to make this decision regarding their DD, and, on the advice of our pastor, did not refuse to be a part of the wedding, although they did not in any way let her think at they approved of her choices. Eight years later the marriage was torn apart by adultery and divorce. The DD reluctantly admitted that her parents had been right and she wrong. She’s returned to the sacraments, is raising her son in the church, and is a cantor and teaches CCD.

I cannot say with any certainty that attending the wedding was in itself a deciding factor, but the fact that she was confident of her family’s love and support certainly made it easier to admit her mistakes. I don’t know if she would have done that if she had felt judged and condemned.

Love is such a powerful tool.

Edited because my posts don’t make any sense after 10:00 p.m.
 
I cannot say with any certainty that attending the wedding was in itself a deciding factor, but the fact that she was confident of her family’s love and support certainly made it easier to admit her mistakes. I don’t know if she would have done that if she had felt judged and condemned.

Love is such a powerful tool.
I would like to suggest though, that one can choose to not attend a wedding, and ALSO not show judgment and condemnation. And while this won’t be true of every situation, it is also possible for the person receiving the “we can’t come because…” message, to hear it in love, and to either not feel judged and condemned right away, or to come to understand that they are loved, in time.

In the case of the weddings that we didn’t attend, we still communicated our love. The first one was a cousin with whom we weren’t and never would have been close. In this case, it wasn’t the cousin, but a different family member (dh’s mother, the aunt of the bride) who became irrationally angry, probably out of fear of conflict or fear of us making a scene. When the dust settled, and we never made a scene, and our absense didn’t seem scandalous, she got over it. A year or two later, we were thrust into the same situation again, but this time with dh’s sister - a closer relative with a local wedding, that you would actually expect us to be more excited about (than an out of town cousin who we weren’t close with anyway). Throughout our conversation with the couple about why we wouldn’t be attending, there was a sense of mutual respect and love. We were able to explain our position, and they explained theirs - all without getting angry or doubting that respect/love. Interestingly, dh’s mother, who should have been MORE upset this time, since we were avoiding the wedding of her own child, didn’t fret at all. My belief is that she, and the other family (who was aware of both decisions) learned after the first situation that it really wasn’t the end of the world for us to not go to a wedding, and for us to have different beliefs. Our lack of attendance was pretty much a non-issue to them, and our relationships went on as usual.

My point is that not attending a wedding is not the same thing as judging and condemning, and not every situation where you don’t attend leads to the loss of love. And sometimes, even when there ARE hurt feelings or anger at first, they don’t last. Sometimes it takes some uncomfortable moments before understanding and even curiosity about what makes you think the way you do sets in. In our case, I am content with our choices. We have had a couple of indications since then, that people in the family consider our moral standards to be of note. That’s not a bad thing, and who knows what that could spark in the family who sees us that way. Of course that isn’t the reason why we chose not to attend those weddings, but rather just to avoid celebrating something we believed to be wrong, and to avoid scandalizing our children and other family members.
 
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It is an interesting question - again one that can’t be easily measured - how many times does attending for the sake of preserving family relationships result in a conversion that wouldn’t happen if the wedding had not been attended?
Really good point. 👍 Thanks for sharing your experience. I also like your emphasis on considering your relationship with God and the state of your soul when you need to make important decisions. Reminds me of the phrase “leap of faith”.
 
Yes, Daddy’s Girl…I wrote my question earlier in this thread because I am hearing such a wide variation regarding what to do. Puzzling to me, too. Seems like a big spectrum and as one poster said, “you need to pray about it”. Well…yeah…we all will pray about it and then everyone seems to end up doing “their own thang” regarding whether to attend or not and why.
 
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