Catholic headcovering?

  • Thread starter Thread starter Chantelle1989g
  • Start date Start date
Status
Not open for further replies.
I went to a Mass the other day and didn’t see anyone wearing a veil (except me, but that’s different 😂). Oh my goodness, I would have felt so much more comfortable there if there had been some veiled Christian ladies to sit with.
 
Why the eagerness to preserve those remnants of a paternalistic repression culture?
Modern women are confident and have no need to hide beneath a peace of cloth.
They are well aware that they play an important role within the church, no need to “humble” themselves.
St. Paul ought to be read in the context of his times - we do not have to adopt a 2000 years old clothing style. This holds for both men and women.
 
Last edited:
A. Headcoverings are NOT 'remnants of a paternalistic repression culture.
B. Headcoveringss are worn by confident women because that ‘piece of cloth’ doesn’t hide, it enhances.
C. Humility is still a virtue. Pride is still a vice even when it’s ‘modern.’
D. St. Paul is not the reason women wear headcoverings; women wore them ‘before’ and after. Jesus is the reason some women CHOOSE to do this. Are we not, confident modern women that we are, allowed to exercise our free choice?
 
This is a actually an interesting tangent. You wrote that those women who respect tradition (which would include headcovering, I guess) “set themselves apart in a very positive way”.
Now, could this not also point to pride? Like
“Hey look how devout I am! I even wear headcovering when it is no longer required or usual to show how deep my relationship with Christ is. I might be marriage material for a serious Catholic man like you.” Of course, this is a bit exaggerated, but you get the point.
I am not claiming that this is the reason for all of them, but to be honest, this might be a contributing factor.
For the man, later on, it might also be kind of reassuring: “Look at how devout my wife is. We are the perfect Catholic family. Moreover, I am the head of the family as it should be. We do not buy into this modernist nonsense.”
What do you think?
 
Read my profile picture. It is the words posted on St. Padre Pio’s church door not more than 60 years ago.

These words do not come from him alone. They come from God, who does not change, and who he was in close contact with for all his life, as well as seeing Our Lady often and his own guardian angel. Now why would he put up such a sign? Because it is for the good of souls. Why settle for less and not veil, when we can please God even more by veiling?
 
Last edited:
Last time I looked posts on St. Padre Pio´s church were not part of the scriptures let alone binding for the church.
 
You do realize head covering has not been outlawed, correct? Just because some stopped doing it, that doesn’t mean God accepts it.

Scripture has also spoken of this in the affirmative.
 
I am not claiming head covering is not allowed. Just questioning the motives and reasoning behind all this. It´s chic in certain more trad circles, yes. But I have to inform you that for the majority of women in the church, it is no longer relevant at all…
 
I veil whenever I enter in the Church, a chapel or during confession. If I go to a mass besides the official “student mass” during the semester it’s just me. But if I go during the student mass it’s me and two-three other girls 🙂
 
Anyone who thinks wearing a headcovering shows a lack of confidence or a desire to hide has never worn a hijab to a rural Walmart in the US.

But seriously, it’s not about those things and it’s not paternalistic. What’s paternalistic is criticizing what women of faith wear in the course of their own practice. Covering is about creating a sacred internal space. I don’t know about the Christian perspective (although I’m really interested to learn), but for me my hijab is a reminder that God sees me for who I am in my heart and my mind, not for what my physical body looks like. There’s a place for physical beauty and it doesn’t have to be everywhere and all the time. It helps me concentrate on what matters most to me.
 
Women covering their heads is a Judeo-Christian tradition, it has not been until relatively recently that the uninformed have associated it strictly with Islam.
 
Argue as you want, wearing a veil (or other head covering) is a sign of submission.
Now, the 20th century saw the emancipation of women. They fought for and, step by step,
won more and more rights. They were allowed to take part in elections, work without the
consent of their husband, deny sex to their husbands.
All of this took time and in some cases, still we are not quite there.
Why this desire to return to old times?
Why not accept things as they are?
The times for head coverings for women due to religious reasons are gone.
Now, I am only talking about Christianity, or let´s say Catholicism outside small trad circles - I am not concerned with Islam.
 
Last edited:
Argue as you want, wearing a veil (or other head covering) is a sign of submission.

Now, the 20th century saw the emancipation of women. They fought for and, step by step,

won more and more rights. The were allowed to take part in elections, work without the

consent of their husband, deny sex to their husbands.
All great things. But nothing to do with veiling. Veiling is ultimately the decision of the woman. It is not inquired by men, but God. God desires me to cover my head, so I do so in submission to Him.

To accept things as they are would mean I would also have to accept many non dogmatic and non doctrinal situations going on in the Church possibly not by the command of God, including those who are pushing for women priests and women deacons. Sometimes to better understand the future, we must look to the past. The Church is so rich in its history and tradition, it is even more vital to look to the past in these situations.
 
Very few and I don’t do it myself. I was happy when they did away with this as a “requirement”.
 
I presented arguments but you don’t seem to have take them into account. About relativism, oppresive views, multiculturalism, religious tradition, etc.

There’s no need to be so upset about such trifle mattters, my friend. You keep presenting a very angry picture of a non-problem (for many people out there, anyway).

Nobody is denying your right to agree or disagree, or your right to follow a certain custom or not. It’s just that other people are going to have different views and as long as it doesn’t harm you or anyone innocent in a manner that goes against the law you’re just going to have to respect those differing views.

You keep employing a particular terminology to demean other people’s beliefs. I’ve already demonstrated why that can be a serious problem.

I have even been very candid about my personal views. What more could one give? People are not going to abandon their beliefs just to conform to the ideas other people have. We wouldn’t be Catholic anymore, “trad” or “mod” (?), and this forum might as well be called anything.com.

You received what I think were compassionate replies by women here, even a muslim person provided a very interesting comment.

No need to be offensive.
 
Last edited:
Here’s the bottom line: if one wishes to wear a veil, wear it.

If one doesn’t want to, then don’t.

I don’t wear one, and only maybe 2 people at my parish do. That’s their choice and really not any of my business.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top