Catholic health insurance providers?

[Gabriel_Syme]

I have been in discussion with a catholic friend of mine who also happens to be a constitutional law professor. and we have had discussions regarding the HHS mandate. he and I both agree that the original proposal by the HHS does not stand constitutionally. we agree on this on the grounds that having a church pay for this mandate violates the establishment clause.

Regrettably, he and I disagree on the “compromise” offered by the administration. he argues that since all insurance companies provide contraceptive coverage according to his estimation there is no first amendment issue at stake. I have raised the issue that the church is still passed the cost and it restricts the existence of insurance companies that follow catholic teachings from existing and that in of itself can be an establishment clause issue. He asked me if I could name any companies that do such. I argued that names do not matter if the principle still stands, he does not accept that, and will only accept existing companies that are at risk constitutionally as proof for my point. I’ve decided to humor him because I know such companies exist but I need help finding them.

So far I have found fideliscare in NY but because NY is a state which guarantees contraceptive coverage under medicare and a loophole exists to such an effect. I feel using this example alone will be a weaker argument than I intend to use.

can anyone help me by providing a listing of insurance providers in the united states which conform to the church’s teachings on contraceptives/abortions?

I thank you in advance.

 

[JReducation]

I have been in discussion with a catholic friend of mine who also happens to be a constitutional law professor. and we have had discussions regarding the HHS mandate. he and I both agree that the original proposal by the HHS does not stand constitutionally. we agree on this on the grounds that having a church pay for this mandate violates the establishment clause.

Regrettably, he and I disagree on the “compromise” offered by the administration. he argues that since all insurance companies provide contraceptive coverage according to his estimation there is no first amendment issue at stake. I have raised the issue that the church is still passed the cost and it restricts the existence of insurance companies that follow catholic teachings from existing and that in of itself can be an establishment clause issue. He asked me if I could name any companies that do such. I argued that names do not matter if the principle still stands, he does not accept that, and will only accept existing companies that are at risk constitutionally as proof for my point. I’ve decided to humor him because I know such companies exist but I need help finding them.

So far I have found fideliscare in NY but because NY is a state which guarantees contraceptive coverage under medicare and a loophole exists to such an effect. I feel using this example alone will be a weaker argument than I intend to use.

can anyone help me by providing a listing of insurance providers in the united states which conform to the church’s teachings on contraceptives/abortions?

I thank you in advance.

Go to the Knights of Columbus homepage. They have several insurance plans.

In addition, you can tell your friend that every Catholic religious order in the USA is self-insured. Why would we want to include birth control in the insurance policy of a religious order? According to this mess, we would have to include something for which we have no use and which we believe is immoral. We would be the ones who pay for it, because we’re self insured.

Second question, if you have lay employees who work for the religious order that is self-insured, did they not know that the guys in robes and hods are monks or friars?

Catholic universities run by religious orders are usually self-insured.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF

 

[Sherry_G]

As of today, NO insurer guarantees FREE contraceptive to anyone. So, your friends argument is a red herring anyway. No matter about pointing out a list of insurance carriers, etc. Making a mandate that everyone MUST offer this and cover the cost is a direct attempt to undermine the teachings of the Catholic Church. The fact remains that the entire mandate is unconstitutional. since your friend agrees, there really is no need to go on proving a point that is just a distraction from the truth of what the Obama administration is attempting to do here. The workaround doesn’t make any sense as we all know that any costs to the insurer as passed through to the consumer.

 

[JMJ_BVM]

Hello , i am new here and i wanted to ask about if anyone knows if there are any Catholic Ins Companies ( life/health) .I KNOW the KofC is ONLY for those families who have a husband,father,etc in the KofC though. Thank You.