Catholic history is disturbing

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**Hi Pete,
Not to pick nits pete. :rolleyes: but, the KJV has been translated into over 1,200 languages. I read two different ones of them. I find it helps me in language retention! There are around 10o different Protestant versions of the bibles around in English. The SDA just rewrote two to make them their own! They are so precious! You have to love them more than most cultists! :love:

God Bless**
I really see no problem with translating the Bible into multiple languages. While it would be better to translate from the original languages, I would think it was easier to find someone who could read English and another language than someone who could read both Koine Greek and Hebrew as well as the language into which the translation was being made. The King James Version would have been the one used since until the last 50 years or so it was the dominant English version.
 
Hi guan 👋

GK, such statements are prejudicial, counterproductive, and contrary to Catholic Teaching.

**Isn’t it nice to have a personal opinion? 🙂 I disagree! Such statements do state facts, they do not pre judge. If you are attempting to open people’s eyes that might be productive not counter productive, and it certantly is NOT contrary to Catholic teaching! Protestant theologians have disturbed ecclesial life and the faith of simple persons through their false teaching for 500 years. They distort the teachings of Jesus Christ, and the truths of the RCC.
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In fact, the Catechism states that the HS uses these ecclesial communities to bring people to Himself.

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Yes it does state that! the HS will always try to make Good from Evil, that is His job. It also state that through baptism,they are members of the Catholic church, I do agree with both statements! However would the Protestants? **

There is a great deal of Catholic Teaching that does make it’s way into Protestant ecclesial communities and it is improper to throw out the baby with the bathwater.

**Well dear, they plagiarize it from us! I do not want to throw away the “baby” (The fine people who love Jesus) I do want to throw away the dirty poluted “water” (Protestant Denoninations) Their doing it “almost” right that might not be good enough for their salvation ~ Remember John 6. **

Furthermore, assigning a malicious motive to most of these pastors and teachers is inappropriate, as they do NOT have an intention to deceive.

** :bigyikes: I would never do that, guan. I would not assign malicious motivation to hardly any of the pastors or teachers. Most do not intent to deceive. Don’t say that I do! :tsktsk: The devil only has that motivation, not the good people that have been deceived by him. They are only spreading his deceit. Whether they “Intent” to deceive and spread false lies in mote. Will God hold they blameless for spreading them? Maybe, however they are still spreading corrupt, distorted, lies and false teachings. **

They, like Apollos, believe passsionately that they are communicating the truth.

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To believe is not to acrually be. **
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Realcatholicgk:
The greatest method of deception is to counterfeit. And the master of counterfeit and deception is Satan.
While I agree with this statement, it is just as wrong to accuse all Protestant communities of deception as it is for them to level this accusation at Catholics.

** But they are! Even if they don’t realize it. Remember, since the religions don’t agree, only one of us can be right. Lets see :hmmm: the 2,000 year old authentic** church, or any one of the 61,000 counterfeit denominations that have developed like a cancerous growth over the past 500 years? Hmmm ,:hmmm:
Yea, it sure is hard to figure out who could be correct! :whistle:Even if we, in an ecumenical gesture, picked one of the counterfeit denominations, the other 60,999 will say they weren’t, so I guess I will just continue to say:

We are right, they are wrong. it is as easy as that!

It serves no beneficial purpose.

**Well, I must again disagree. It actually does. It complies with scripture: “No one, when he has lit a lamp, covers it with a container, or puts it under a bed; but puts it on a stand, that those who enter in may see the light. For nothing is hidden, that will not be revealed; nor anything secret, that will not be known and come to light.” Luke 8:16-17

And it helps explain to them why Jesus Himself called Protestants denominations “evildoers”! "Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’ Mt 7:22 **

**You do good things, I love to read your posts. Keep in touch! 👍

God Bless **
 
Cool. What about the NT? The 70 had nothing to do with that? Or do they just read it in Greek?
No. The 70 were Jewish scholars several centuries before Christ. The Septuagint was adopted by the Church because that was the version used by Jesus and the Apostles.
 
This thread made me laugh… The answer is: Not as disturbing as anyone elses history. The difference between the church’s history and a country/persons history is honesty, humility, and factuality. Yes it is true, that if one reads the church’s history along with having a worldly view, it can seem quite dismal. In the light of the Holy Spirit the church’s struggles are seen as times of refinement and understanding, of the issues that exist within it and the world.
 
The Eucharist for one but I have not intention of debating that here because I and others have already debated that to the ground on another thread started by Marina.
I think I saw someone raise a very good point about Jesus speaking figuratively. I didn’t see anyone do a good job of attacking them. What is the right answer to that?
 
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Hi ron:wave:

Thanks ron. I use several, I never saw that one before.

This Thread should close real soon. God Bless all. See you on other threads!**
I have used that site before. One of the things you notice just by using it is that there really isn’t any differences worth mentioning between the Catholic Bible and some of the other good ones. I don’t understand what all the talk is about that.
 
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