Catholic Homeschooling

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Cathoholic said:
Son of Niall.

Concerning Catholic home schooling families, you said:

I’ve met atheists that feel that way too.

(Have you ever considered that they might WANT to spend the time with their own kids and educate them?)

You went on (emphasis mine) . . . .

I’ve never encountered this. Not once. Not even close.

You went on further saying . . . .

I think this was a “poor decision” from you to post this non-sense.

I think you are 0 for 3, or at best 1 for 3.

Couldn’t disagree more here.

God bless.

Cathoholic
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Methinks you protest too much.
Since you are into multi-posting, you get an ‘D’ for skipping over this quote I made, TWICE:
I am NOT saying all homeschooling families are like that
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People who insulate themselves tend to think their reality is the ONLY reality and have no compunctions in calling people liars.
Which is what you are calling me.
Deny reality and attack the opposition.
You just HAVE to be a Trump voter. :rolleyes:
 
Son_of_Niall said:
Lets be honest. There are ‘homeschooling’ families who do not want their kids in public school OR Catholic school because they might (horrors!) encounter a diversity of kids from different backgrounds, religions, or color.
I’m not saying they are all like that, but I have encountered more than a few on both sides of the Tiber. Their kids end up with poor socialization skills and tend to make poor decisions when they do reach adulthood due to their isolation.
Again, I am NOT saying all homeschooling families are like that. But different parents tend to have different motives.
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Wow.
 
Pointing fingers at that which you do not know, says a lot about you, very little about that which you do not know.
 
Son_of_Niall said:
Well I have seen the opposite.
They do not want ‘state schools’ teaching them things they disagree with. They do not want them around ‘certain kinds of kids’. They tend to be right-wing and conspiratorial.
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Quite a broad brush accusation. It is uncalled for. Unless there is checkable data to back up this claim, a parent/parents have a right to teach their children as they see best. State schools are showing verifiable signs of indoctrination. Sex education has been a failure. See the CDC web site.

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Son_of_Niall said:
Lets be honest. There are ‘homeschooling’ families who do not want their kids in public school OR Catholic school because they might (horrors!) encounter a diversity of kids from different backgrounds, religions, or color.
I’m not saying they are all like that, but I have encountered more than a few on both sides of the Tiber. Their kids end up with poor socialization skills and tend to make poor decisions when they do reach adulthood due to their isolation.
Again, I am NOT saying all homeschooling families are like that. But different parents tend to have different motives.
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You know this how? Any verifiable data data to back this up?

Poor socialization skills? Wow.

Ed
 
edwest2 said:
Quite a broad brush accusation. It is uncalled for. Unless there is checkable data to back up this claim, a parent/parents have a right to teach their children as they see best. State schools are showing verifiable signs of indoctrination. Sex education has been a failure. See the CDC web site.

Ed
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I don’t know if there has been any studies of homeschooling or the effects negative or positive.
My wife and I did homeschool our child on and off. In high school she did online, which worked very well. It is however not for everybody.
It is true different parents have different motives for homeschooling, I HAVE seen what SON describes, how widespread it is, I don’t know. But I don’t think it should be easily dismissed. Identification of these negative aspects, especially by homeschoolers themselves, can only help not hinder IMO.
 
JustaServant said:
I don’t know if there has been any studies of homeschooling or the effects negative or positive.
My wife and I did homeschool our child on and off. In high school she did online, which worked very well. It is however not for everybody.
It is true different parents have different motives for homeschooling, I HAVE seen what SON describes, how widespread it is, I don’t know. But I don’t think it should be easily dismissed. Identification of these negative aspects, especially by homeschoolers themselves, can only help not hinder IMO.
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I think some people are jumping to conclusions. Growing up in a highly ethnic community, with a Catholic school that had religion class, did not guarantee me possible failure in “the real world” later. The information is anecdotal. No, I’m not saying to discount it but the reasons for homeschooling vary. A detailed, unbiased analysis seems to make sense, but what’s the big deal? These right wing, conspiratorial remarks are like saying little Billy is going to grow up to be unable to cope or have the “wrong ideas” in his head.

As an adult, I notice more and more adults who isolate from each other. Is it because they are right wing, conspiratorial types? I don’t know but social interaction is virtually unnecessary. People have family and/or friends but outside of that small circle - nothing. There is good evidence that communities are rare but localized tribalism has replaced it with a “do your own thing” mindset. 99.9 out of 100 times, “their thing” doesn’t suit me at all.

Ed
 
PaulfromIowa said:
LOL. Great videos.

The homeschool kids that I know do better, as a group, than the regular schooled kids. This idea of homeschool families as freaks and kooks is outrageous.
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I don’t think it’s that farfetched, even though I’m mostly positive about homeschooling. I’ll explain why very briefly, and hopefully this will make sense.

Most people in the mainstream will have very little exposure to homeschooling or homeschool students, until they’re all in the workforce and that kind of thing never comes up or comes up in a very limited way. I knew two or three partially homeschooled kids as a child, and yes, they were all weird. It was painfully obvious they did not fit in to the everyday school structure and they did not seem to know how to do so. As a kid, all I knew about these other children were “they were homeschooled” or “they quit coming to school to be homeschooled.” It’s pretty easy for a stereotype to emerge in your head from such limited exposure. I have no idea what happened to them, or if they are well-adjusted adults today.

Interestingly, I also developed the same stereotype about kids who went to private school. I was public schooled K-12 and not religious. Going to “regular school” was just what everyone around me did, and so to not do that seemed suspicious. Like, “what’s so wrong about the way we do things, that you have to do it differently?”

I’m not saying it’s right, but I can see how those thoughts develop. I know more homeschooling families now, and in my social group I’m actually the weird one because my oldest goes to public school. There’s a suspicion some of them have, because of their primary exposure to other homeschool or Catholic schooled kids, that my son will only interact with gang members or come home spouting profanity and wanting to do drugs, even though his school environment is absolutely nothing like that and I have no reason to think it ever will be.

I think Allegra’s earlier post was very good too - sometimes we lump things in with “homeschooling” when “homeschooling” is just the front/excuse for what’s really going on.
 
Yeah. Considering home-school here myself. I had negative stereotypes about it at first, but then I met actual homeschoolers, both peers and now homeschooled children. Sure, there’s shyness. That’s a fault in our culture, to be sure. But they were hard-working, bright, respectful, and yes, different. Sometimes different is good.

As far as being weird, there are plenty of weird kids in school too. I’ve always been a little weird. Frankly though, not being into the latest pop star is no loss. Sometimes that’s all it takes to be qualified as weird anymore.

We live in row homes, and there are lots of young kids whose interaction I watch while I’m watching my kiddo. I think I might be able to introduce our children to more variety and good culture than if I sent them to public school.

Drugs are getting more common too, and at least one of the young teens on the block I know of is having problems with it. One of my childhood friends got hooked in middle-school. I think I would rather deal with accusations of sheltering my children than unwittingly sacrifice them to addiction. I’m certainly not saying that that’s what someone is doing if they send their kids to public school. I’m just using my experience. I was solicited too, but I like to think that one reason I refused was because of the Catholic schooling. I was getting positive reinforcement.

There’s a Catholic school I would dearly love to send them to, but I’m not sure it’s feasible right now. A three hour daily commute, at the very least, isn’t family friendly. So in the meantime I’m researching curriculum (might do a combination of Memoria Press and Kolbe, supplemented with arts and Homeschool Connections as they get older) and starting to network. As of now, I might be partnering with a former Chemistry teacher (and environmental engineer) in doing a part-time Montessori inspired pre-school with our two sons. Starting in Fall. I’ve already got a logo for the school put together on a CAD program.

Never thought I’d consider homeschool. It was a definite no. However, this is my main motivation. I’ve been through conventional Catholic school. In my entire schooling, K-12, we read maybe one excerpt from Lewis, maybe one quote from Chesterton, nothing from the Summa… One gets the picture. This is wrong. I think it’s a kind of theft. We’re doing nothing to capture the hearts of kids to the heart of the Christian story. If I can do something about that, I will. I thank God I had one high school teacher who had the foresight to give us some basic apologetics. He quoted Lewis, and Chesterton. He read from The Great Divorce. And thank God that both the Lord of the Rings and first Narnia movie came out when I was in high school. That was at least some cultural augment to a spiritually imaginative awakening. I’m actually not angry at the system, because some of it stuck, but I am upset that such beautiful gems of Catholic culture were deemed unimportant or insignificant in the larger task of evangelization. It’s a serious mistake. Thank God I had a family who traveled, and who lived in Italy. At least some of that appreciation sunk in somewhere.

Of course our situation might change, and we might be able to put them in that Catholic school.
 
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