You need to do your best to finish inside your wife. If ejaculation occurs by accident it is not a sin . It would be wrong to intentionally finish outside your wife.My wife and I are 60yrs+.I now have an erection problem and have as a result not always ejaculated in the vagina. In such a situation is it permissable for my wife to manually bring me to ejaculate.What is the church’s views in this area and what advice can you give?
steve
The above is correct.You need to do your best to finish inside your wife. If ejaculation occurs by accident it is not a sin . It would be wrong to intentionally finish outside your wife.
Part of me says this is right. The other part of me remembers Sarah and Elizabeth.Actually, how can that be since there is no possible way for conception anyway?
The marital act has a procreative and unitive message in how it is carried out. Married people use a language with their bodies that is a reflection of both communion( The Eucharist) and the love within the Trinity. That is why it should be carried out to completion - to fullyexpress that language.Actually, how can that be since there is no possible way for conception anyway?
They were not required to have 12 children. They could have abstained from marital relations either periodically during the month or for a longer time frame. You also can’t deny that they could have done things differently and gotten a different result . We have many stories of poor but happy families that were large . Many large families that manage to produce multiple saints.Unitive and procreative is about as clear as mud when you read from several sources. I’m probably the only person who finds this hard to understand but I try. It’s hard for me to understand how having sex only to procreate is good for a marriage in today’s society. My Catholic uncle and aunt had 12 children, barely could feed, clothe, and house them, beat them when he felt they needed it, forced them to attend Mass, ALL strayed from the church. What did having 12 children you didn’t need accomplish in this union? I can name other examples. Disturbing.
Sex is meant to have a moment of unity with your wife/husband and is to end in an act of procreation. Foreplay and all that stuff is acceptable as long as it ends in an act of attempting procreation. When you say “in today’s society”, it truly shows a lack of faith in God’s providence.Unitive and procreative is about as clear as mud when you read from several sources. I’m probably the only person who finds this hard to understand but I try. It’s hard for me to understand how having sex only to procreate is good for a marriage in today’s society.
Those childred were clothed and fed as you say. Regardless if it wasn’t what you or they may have “wanted”, what was needed was “provided”. The beating is far from Christian and probably what drove some away from the Church. I pray that I could have 12 children. They are a major blessing. And no… I’m not rich by any worldly sense at all. However, God has ALWAYS provided everything we “needed.”My Catholic uncle and aunt had 12 children, barely could feed, clothe, and house them, beat them when he felt they needed it, forced them to attend Mass, ALL strayed from the church.
Conception is a result of marital relations not an element of it.Actually, how can that be since there is no possible way for conception anyway?
That is not quite right. Married couples have a lot of freedom in thier sex lives but each act must be both unitive and ordered toward procreation. Married sex is enjoyable but it isn’t a “reward” but rather a source of joy and pleasure (as the catechism says).I was told in confession once that “anything goes” between married couples. We have enjoyed an active sex life that I feel has been a factor in keeping us together and not straying. Is this wrong? Isn’t married sex for married enjoyment? I thought it was a reward for married couples to enjoy and a gift from God here on earth.
Unitive = for the good of the spouses and for the good of the marriage.Unitive and procreative is about as clear as mud when you read from several sources. I’m probably the only person who finds this hard to understand but I try.
Something told to a person in confession always carries two caveats. First and most important is that it is addressed to one specific individual discussing one specific thing and thus is highly personalized between confessor and penitent. It is not intended to be broadcast as correct in all situations.I was told in confession once that “anything goes” between married couples.
Sex is not a “reward”, though it is obviously pleasurable in a loving relationship. Sex is a responsibility one to the other to be entered into properly and with the greatest regard one for the other. It is never to be abused.We have enjoyed an active sex life that I feel has been a factor in keeping us together and not straying. Is this wrong? Isn’t married sex for married enjoyment? I thought it was a reward for married couples to enjoy and a gift from God here on earth.
Abstain.What if one spouse is HIV+ or diagnosed with Herpes. What to do about marital relations?