Catholic Marriage

[Phemie]

Immaterial, though, since their marriages are sacramental… right?

Many may be sacramental. Many aren’t.

The question isn’t the status of their clergy, is it? It’s the sacramentality of the marriages they witness. After all, their marriage isn’t sacramental because civil authority recognizes it…

Since there is no " form" imposed by those ecclesial communities, their marriages are valid, as long as there are no impediments, regardless of which civil authority winesses them. They are not necessarily sacramental.

 

[1ke]

right… but then claimed, in response to my question, that ‘valid priesthood’ was the reason that ecclesial communions do not have requirements of form…

The lack of apostolic succession is why it is not possible for them to have form.

 

[Truth_Faith13]

The church only hold those who are Catholic at the time of marriage to be married in the Catholic Church or get a dispensation to not marry in the Church. Practicing Catholics know this.

The Catholic Church does recognize marriages in other churches as valid and if there are no impediments, sacramental. For you, if you choose the Catholic Church, your marriage would become sacramental as soon as you are baptized. This in no way means the Church doesn’t recognize your marriage, she does. In the Catholic Church all marriages are considered valid as long as there are no impediments or that one party was Catholic at the time of marriage. (If married outside the Catholic Church)

I thought my marriage would be non sacramental since I am baptised (in a Methodist church) but my husband is not (as well as being atheist)?

 

[1ke]

I thought my marriage would be non sacramental since I am baptised (in a Methodist church) but my husband is not (as well as being atheist)?

If one party or both parties are unbaptized, the marriage is a natural marriage. Natural marriages are real marriages, valid marriages.

You are correct it is not a sacrament-- which can only be the case if both parties are baptized. If your husband were ever to be baptized, it would become a sacrament at that time.

 

[Horton]

I thought my marriage would be non sacramental since I am baptised (in a Methodist church) but my husband is not (as well as being atheist)?

My mistake. I thought at one time you had said you were not baptized but Christened at a Methodist church.

 

[Phemie]

My mistake. I thought at one time you had said you were not baptized but Christened at a Methodist church.

It’s often called Christening by people whose ecclesial communities have valid Baptism.

 

[Truth_Faith13]

My mistake. I thought at one time you had said you were not baptized but Christened at a Methodist church.

I use baptism/christening to mean the same thing Christening just means it happened as a baby/young child ie infant baptism.

Is that not how Catholics use the term?

 

[Phemie]

I use baptism/christening to mean the same thing Christening just means it happened as a baby/young child ie infant baptism.

Is that not how Catholics use the term?

Not as a rule. I’ve heard Catholics chastise other Catholics with these words: "You “christen” a ship! People are ‘baptized!’ "

I remember reading an article which said that christening is part of the Baptism Rite, in that the first question asked of the parents is " Which nane do yo give your child?" It’s often modifiied to “have you given” because it’s rather rare today that the child doesn’t officially have a name before that point. I guess it was a lot less rare back in the days where Baptism was conferred within the first few days after birth.

 

[1ke]

I use baptism/christening to mean the same thing Christening just means it happened as a baby/young child ie infant baptism.

Is that not how Catholics use the term?

Christen is the Old English word for baptize. So in places that have roots in England the term is more common than where the Romance languages dominated.

 

[Horton]

Learn something new every day.

 

[Vico]

Learn something new every day.

Greek Χριστιανός (Christianos) follower of Christ.
Greek Χριστός (Christós) annointed
Greek χρίσμα (chrisma): an anointing, unction